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bugfart

bugfart

12x mental hospital stays
May 21, 2023
30
Think about it. Men's key issues is "I don't want to work to support a family or fulfill masculine gender roles". "I don't want to support a woman". "I'd prefer to be feminine". "Men can't cry". And by no means am I a conservative. But ok. Now men can sit on their ass all day and make their wife do all the working and cooking and cleaning and child rearing and stay gaming all day. Everything hinges on the women or else the kids starve or if no kids are involved, they starve should something happen to her with some of the "feminist" arrangements people have. I don't agree with a man 100% paying for a woman because the hand that feeds can cut off that food and support and abuse a woman. But the things that men have done to me and the arrangements that are acceptable are not ok. Im a full time student taking 15 credit hours and I aim to do a masters degree eventually. My boyfriend does nothing. I pay for his shit and he acts like a typical in fact stereotypical abusive man.

He paints his nails and listens to indie music and he cries- a lot- but he is still abusive. He is abusive and weaponizes his feelings. He isn't grateful for the fact that I pay for him. He says he is a communist and a feminist therefore he doesn't believe in working and I should pay for things. He claims it is sexist and ableist if I ask him to get a job and he calls me a bitch and all the slurs on the book but because of what kind of man and the male feminism he subscribes to he says it's ok to call me a bitch and a whore because I deserve it for "gaslighting" him, and being "sexist" to him for asking that he pick up some slack, among other buzzwords. All this does is give a wolf sheep's clothing. A man can wear a pearl necklace, cry, go to therapy and use therapy words against women, not work, paint their nails, use alternative pronouns (whilst still being male), and they are still not good men. So I'm wondering why the focus is on "ohh sweet baby you're included in feminism now and the fact that you can't cry and can't paint your nails and can't wear a dress and that you have to ensure your kids and wife don't starve is so much more important than the issues actual women go through!"


Why did everyone make the whole club about them? Why is it about men and diverse identities instead of the problems women go through? Even historically when involving everyone in feminism nothing went right. For example- Seneca falls convention was the earliest convention for women's right to vote. Slavery abolitionists were involved and nothing ended up coming from it due to the need to have everyone involved and not enough support and focus on women. Women had to bomb and commit arson and do massive protests later on to win the right to vote and historically men were "feminists" similar to that of today in that they believed they were doing women a service to restrict them from voting to "protect them", because they believed women were weak. All of us with a brain support women's right to vote now. But back then, if you asked the average man, they probably would've disagreed.

They can go around doing fake performative activism like "sex work is work" because they want as much sex as possible and view women as public property instead of private property and want to silence victims of sex trafficking and claim that 13 year old trafficked girls are just "prudes" and "not sex positive enough" and ignoring major reform at the very least that's needed with prostitution/ sex work. 89% of women want to leave prostitution and most of them have started or been forced underage. They go around saying "free the nipple" not because they care, but because they want to see nipples and they are sexual predators and view women as public property.

They go around advocating for polyamory despite not being ethical in their polyamorous arrangements and again, because they view women as public property and don't want to commit because under certain economic theories when taken to extremes without ethics/ intersectionality like communism or socialism: if they don't see women as full people, they see them as property, and if they see property as public, they see women as public property. Therefore they want as much sex as possible from all directions in an almost cult leader like fashion. It's all an act. At most they care about economics and occasionally racial issues but stand exactly the same as conservative men on women- just with a "public property" view instead of a "private property" view. It's well established that conservative men are not good men. They would make all women barefoot and pregnant and stripped of rights if they could. They are wolves who don't hide it. The majority of "male feminists" are those same wolves but in pearl necklaces and painted nails and he/they pronouns.

Men like Hassan are a shining example of this. He's a nepotism baby, doesn't do much work, owns a mansion, rapes illegally trafficked women in Berlin and brags about it, is misogynistic to women but claims it's ok because they're white or whatever excuse he wants to choose. All while wearing a pearl necklace or painting his nails because that's what matters right? Not the women or any systemic issues women go through apparently.
 
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bugfart

bugfart

12x mental hospital stays
May 21, 2023
30
I meant to say that modern feminism has diverged from women's issues and instead installed men as speakers and has focused on non essential things, or non issues. Like the fact that some men feel that they can't cry or be feminine takes up the whole space instead of what is happening to women in Sudan or the Congo. That no real progress is being made and that these men aren't any different from the men they claim to be different from/ hate on. And that as a group, feminism is too inclusive of men and unrelated issues instead of focusing on any real issues. Any time any progress is made it becomes "what about men's mental health" "is my boyfriend included in this?" "I'm actually a really good guy", and many men co opt feminism as a way to simply get laid (the majority)
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Actions speak louder than words to me. So- someone who claims to be all about equality but who then expects another to do all the work, finance them, take care of them is full of hot air- as I see it.

If I'm honest, I sort of feel this way about the more militant NEETS/ nihilists to some extent. They will express how foolish and dumb and unfair it is how most people are working all hours but- they are reliant on the very same people they are mocking.

Have they actually thought through how their life would change if everyone stopped working? Would they continue to see no purpose in life if they were starving or without shelter or clean clothes? Or, would it start to make sense to do things to take care of themselves- in order to avoid pain effectively?

I'm a little more sympathetic towards NEETS/ nihilists though- seeing as I'm anti-natilist too. Where I sympathise with them is- Why was it fair to bring them here to put them to work? Maybe it's reasonable to refuse and expect their parents to pay. It was their decision to procreate after all.

Sorry if this is insulting- so- feel free to ignore it but, what about the relationship/ him makes it worthwhile to stay?
 
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bugfart

12x mental hospital stays
May 21, 2023
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Actions speak louder than words to me. So- someone who claims to be all about equality but who then expects another to do all the work, finance them, take care of them is full of hot air- as I see it.

If I'm honest, I sort of feel this way about the more militant NEETS/ nihilists to some extent. They will express how foolish and dumb and unfair it is how most people are working all hours but- they are reliant on the very same people they are mocking.

Have they actually thought through how their life would change if everyone stopped working? Would they continue to see no purpose in life if they were starving or without shelter or clean clothes? Or, would it start to make sense to do things to take care of themselves- in order to avoid pain effectively?

I'm a little more sympathetic towards NEETS/ nihilists though- seeing as I'm anti-natilist too. Where I sympathise with them is- Why was it fair to bring them here to put them to work? Maybe it's reasonable to refuse and expect their parents to pay. It was their decision to procreate after all.

Sorry if this is insulting- so- feel free to ignore it but, what about the relationship/ him makes it worthwhile to stay?
Honestly, the fact that no one else has ever or will ever be into me. I don't want children. I don't want to do certain things. Most of the liberal men I find that I somewhat agree with that don't want me to be barefoot and pregnant are polyamorous and I am not ok with cheating. This is the one guy I could find. Men stopped being into me as a whole when I turned 19. My partner says that he hates capitalists and that he's never going to work. He said that he'd only pick up a trade job to help people locally. I asked him how he thinks my salary would support us both. He told me to figure it out.

He's 22 and I'm 19 and he's called me a capitalist pig when I'm just a college student. When I told him that he's just jealous he went no contact with his dad and chose to be homeless over living with his family over mild arguments they had he said "would I be jealous of the inbred Hapsburgs for their wealth or an idf soldiers paycheck?". He said I was just as bad as someone like that even though I pay for his stuff and see to it that he takes his meds and eats.

I don't quite understand. And these kind of people are not very good people but they shroud all of their actions in a shield of "I'm a feminist so I refuse to work, my wife can work though and I'll call her a capitalist pig and leech" or "I'm a communist so I won't work, but my partner should because everyone has a duty and my duty is to stay at home and be on the internet and my worth isn't defined by money, it's defined by being abusive to my partner/mother." (Is what both of those groups could say if they really said what they meant).

Seeing as I'm on this website I don't want to exist either. But I'm the suicidal one. He isn't. He is melodramatic but isn't genuinely suicidal. I still go out and try to make something of myself if I decide I want to live longterm. I stay because there is no one else and leaving will be hard. I'll have to do a lot of precautions because he is crazy
 
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R. A.

R. A.

Some day the dream will end
Aug 8, 2022
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I meant to say that modern feminism has diverged from women's issues and instead installed men as speakers and has focused on non essential things, or non issues. Like the fact that some men feel that they can't cry or be feminine takes up the whole space instead of what is happening to women in Sudan or the Congo. That no real progress is being made and that these men aren't any different from the men they claim to be different from/ hate on. And that as a group, feminism is too inclusive of men and unrelated issues instead of focusing on any real issues. Any time any progress is made it becomes "what about men's mental health" "is my boyfriend included in this?" "I'm actually a really good guy", and many men co opt feminism as a way to simply get laid (the majority)

Yeah, the problem isn't feminism failing, it's the co-opting as you say. The goal of feminism is equality with the point of origin being the recognition of patriarchy and misogyny. No offence but your partner sounds like a hypocritical asshat. See how he insults you for being a "capitalist" if you quit your job and stop paying for his loser ass.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Honestly, the fact that no one else has ever or will ever be into me. I don't want children. I don't want to do certain things. Most of the liberal men I find that I somewhat agree with that don't want me to be barefoot and pregnant are polyamorous and I am not ok with cheating. This is the one guy I could find. Men stopped being into me as a whole when I turned 19. My partner says that he hates capitalists and that he's never going to work. He said that he'd only pick up a trade job to help people locally. I asked him how he thinks my salary would support us both. He told me to figure it out.

He's 22 and I'm 19 and he's called me a capitalist pig when I'm just a college student. When I told him that he's just jealous he went no contact with his dad and chose to be homeless over living with his family over mild arguments they had he said "would I be jealous of the inbred Hapsburgs for their wealth or an idf soldiers paycheck?". He said I was just as bad as someone like that even though I pay for his stuff and see to it that he takes his meds and eats.

I don't quite understand. And these kind of people are not very good people but they shroud all of their actions in a shield of "I'm a feminist so I refuse to work, my wife can work though and I'll call her a capitalist pig and leech" or "I'm a communist so I won't work, but my partner should because everyone has a duty and my duty is to stay at home and be on the internet and my worth isn't defined by money, it's defined by being abusive to my partner/mother." (Is what both of those groups could say if they really said what they meant).

Seeing as I'm on this website I don't want to exist either. But I'm the suicidal one. He isn't. He is melodramatic but isn't genuinely suicidal. I still go out and try to make something of myself if I decide I want to live longterm. I stay because there is no one else and leaving will be hard. I'll have to do a lot of precautions because he is crazy

Would living alone be so much worse? I guess I'm kind of lucky in that I don't tend to get lonely. I suppose I'm always kind of curious about people in difficult relationships- as to why they put up with it. I suppose also though, you now have the worry of what would happen if you abandoned him. Despite his mannerisms- which I would detest personally, I guess you must still care about his well being. Seems like a tricky trap to be in. I'm sorry.
 
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Holu

Hypomania go brrr
Apr 5, 2023
882
I just wanna say that being a communist does not mean you don't work lmao. Communism calls for a classless society, and even its volunteer work, it's still work. The only way a theoretical communist society functions is if everyone is willing to chip in, which it sounds like bro doesn't even do.

Also please nobody call me a commie I'm not a communist. Just explaining what it is.
 
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