Yesterday I tried the tourniquet method 3 times
I think I did everything by the book
But I never felt dizzy
I think I did everything by the book
But I never felt dizzy
sadworld
existence is a nightmare
- Aug 25, 2020
- 3,868
That seems like a really hard method to be honest... Maybe you should try your luck with another one.
I can see how this one would be difficult. I have thought about it as a back up for my back up, but the logistics of it seem easier said than done.
profoundexperience
You can feel the punishment but you cant commit ts
- Jun 29, 2020
- 436
All of us are different... I'm a bit more mechanically inclined, so I see the compression/tourniquet/"night-night" method as "simplicity itself" (straightforward and easy)... particularly with a hookless ratchet (link for pic of one at bottom). For me, all the protocols & procurement with SN seem much more challenging than this. Also, compression/tourniquet/"night-night" has to be among the cheapest, reliable method. But, again, each of us is unique...
Without more details, it's difficult to analyze why there were problems. If you never "felt dizzy" (and therefore obviously never passed-out), something fundamental was not right (so, although it was your intention to be "by the book"... probably wasn't).
What do you think went wrong?
One is compressing the arteries & veins (not the windpipe), so it needs to be high on the neck (above the "Adams Apple" area). Best to be done quite rapidly to prevent a "swollen feeling" (as veins compress more easily than arteries). Need to be situated so tourniquet can't unwind. Correct tourniquet material, length, width, and "give" (stretchiness) must be used. Knot must be done correctly to not "give". Keep cranking until pass out.
The hookless ratchet tie-down compression method is my personal backup method. It's a tourniquet, but I feel it's more secure (because there's no way it can unwind). A hookless ratchet resolves all issues with material and no knot required: Ratchets -- by design -- are secure and don't "give" ~at all. In my careful, brief "testing", the feeling of the strap/tourniquet on my neck gave only minor discomfort. They're available at many retailers. Got one in a drawer 10 feet from me right now. Total cost ~$10.
I wrote a slightly more detailed post here with a pic of one, see...
Edit: I had said, "The only thing one needs to do to prep the ratchet is to carefully consider the length of strap needed and to cut off the excess (cut off too much and it's ruined)." But @Xali1970 had corrected me in pointing-out this was unnecessary. I double-checked and @Xali1970 is correct. Learn something new every day!
Without more details, it's difficult to analyze why there were problems. If you never "felt dizzy" (and therefore obviously never passed-out), something fundamental was not right (so, although it was your intention to be "by the book"... probably wasn't).
What do you think went wrong?
One is compressing the arteries & veins (not the windpipe), so it needs to be high on the neck (above the "Adams Apple" area). Best to be done quite rapidly to prevent a "swollen feeling" (as veins compress more easily than arteries). Need to be situated so tourniquet can't unwind. Correct tourniquet material, length, width, and "give" (stretchiness) must be used. Knot must be done correctly to not "give". Keep cranking until pass out.
The hookless ratchet tie-down compression method is my personal backup method. It's a tourniquet, but I feel it's more secure (because there's no way it can unwind). A hookless ratchet resolves all issues with material and no knot required: Ratchets -- by design -- are secure and don't "give" ~at all. In my careful, brief "testing", the feeling of the strap/tourniquet on my neck gave only minor discomfort. They're available at many retailers. Got one in a drawer 10 feet from me right now. Total cost ~$10.
I wrote a slightly more detailed post here with a pic of one, see...
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/self-strangulation.45267/post-821012
Edit: I had said, "The only thing one needs to do to prep the ratchet is to carefully consider the length of strap needed and to cut off the excess (cut off too much and it's ruined)." But @Xali1970 had corrected me in pointing-out this was unnecessary. I double-checked and @Xali1970 is correct. Learn something new every day!
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profoundexperience
You can feel the punishment but you cant commit ts
- Jun 29, 2020
- 436
Understood. Then the ratchet isn't possible for you. Sorry.
You'll need to re-read the literature, analyze exactly what you did, and figure-out the failure-mode (I've suggested many of the likely possibilities).
As you mentioned, many elderly people have successfully performed this method... And it is highly recommended in the book mentioned in the Wiki called Five Last Acts – The Exit Path (2015 edition): The arts and science of rational suicide in the face of unbearable, unrelievable suffering 2nd Edition by Chris Docker. So it is established, reliable and doable.
I wish you great wellness.
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Why cut the webbing of the ratchet strap? I just feed a loop through the center axle gap, and you can tighten twice as fast without giving your preparations away
profoundexperience
You can feel the punishment but you cant commit ts
- Jun 29, 2020
- 436
Quite right and even easier (you don't need to do anything to the ratchet) and much better concealment! (I have a ratchet with extremely short strap and it does look odd/suspicious). I edited my post accordingly.
I've never had occasion to use a ratchet to tie down a load... but your suggestion should have been obvious... duh. THANKS for showing me something new, @Xali1970!!
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Himalayan
"Wake up to reality, nothing ever goes as planned"
- Sep 30, 2022
- 422
Older people usually have a easy time whit suicide man...
Honestly, i think you should consider the lashing belt variation.
Hollowillow
The only place that allows negative feelings.
- Aug 7, 2022
- 1,514
It's harder than rocket science to me... I wish I came with an off switch..
What is lashing belt variation? What means lashing?
Why not tape?
What is lashing belt variation? What means lashing?
Why not tape?
Himalayan
"Wake up to reality, nothing ever goes as planned"
- Sep 30, 2022
- 422
It's just another name for the ratcjet strap.
The reason you use to this, is because it has self restriction mechanisms. You can only restrict, but it doesn't comes loose.
Unless you hit the valve, but i heard it's hard to even open the valve tbh.
It's tourniquet method, but safer.
Don't understimate the amount of pressure you need to restrict the carotids though.
Search reported cases and you will see the pics of people succeeding whit this.
It's the same sheananigans, place it in your neck. Imo, above the Adams apple, near the chin. You also need a hookless ratchet strap, but those datails you get doing your own research.
Five last acts (book) explains it well. Make a vm, if you don't trust the shady links and download it
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FuneralCry
Just wanting some peace
- Sep 24, 2020
- 45,750
The original poster of this thread has not been seen on the forum since August 2021 and this thread is old, so it's probably a bit late to ask questions and give advice. I hope that they found freedom from suffering.
I've never considered this method or the Night Night one. From what I know sounds difficult and unreliable. Failing ctb sounds so horrifying to me. It certainly should be easier to leave this life behind, it's unfair and frustrating how it can be this difficult.
I've never considered this method or the Night Night one. From what I know sounds difficult and unreliable. Failing ctb sounds so horrifying to me. It certainly should be easier to leave this life behind, it's unfair and frustrating how it can be this difficult.
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