Exist mean slow die

[CTB Dream]

Nothing else this only result, come live wait death nothing have it all Wai t injury illness damahe all teriblr ,best thing not live not born come mean suffer suffer keep suffer , body live late die all not only oldage even small any die this just same race death time comr

 

[universe]

Indeed, I often wonder why people are so involved in life. They do a whole bunch of things that are important to them : building a family, buying a house, spending a lot of time at work, and a few hobbies to occupy themselves. When I look at the daily lives of these people, I wonder what the point is. Do they realize that their life is a copy of their neighbor's life? That fundamentally, whether they existed or not would have changed nothing? That their life is useless because they will eventually die and the universe will continue to turn? Their family will also die, their house will collapse, their work will have been useless to enrich a boss who will end up dying.

Our life is only a small passage on Earth, a parenthesis, a bubble. No matter how much I know it exists, it still strikes me with its absurdity. Our existence is irrelevant. We are bound to die one day, why pretend it will never happen, and why see death as a tregedy? From the moment we are born, it is only a matter of time before we return to nothingness and oblivion.

 

[Euthanza]

Life is clearly overrated, while in fact 90% horrible

 

[Forever Sleep]

Indeed, I often wonder why people are so involved in life. They do a whole bunch of things that are important to them : building a family, buying a house, spending a lot of time at work, and a few hobbies to occupy themselves. When I look at the daily lives of these people, I wonder what the point is. Do they realize that their life is a copy of their neighbor's life? That fundamentally, whether they existed or not would have changed nothing? That their life is useless because they will eventually die and the universe will continue to turn? Their family will also die, their house will collapse, their work will have been useless to enrich a boss who will end up dying.

Our life is only a small passage on Earth, a parenthesis, a bubble. No matter how much I know it exists, it still strikes me with its absurdity. Our existence is irrelevant. We are bound to die one day, why pretend it will never happen, and why see death as a tregedy? From the moment we are born, it is only a matter of time before we return to nothingness and oblivion.

I feel the same way as you. It does seem kind of delusional to believe your life has great purpose. I can't say I'm exactly jealous of their delusions but I suppose sometimes I do wonder what it's like to live like that. I'm not really sure who's better off in the end. Seeing as it's all pretty pointless anyway, is there any real benefit to seeing the horrible 'truth?' Seeing as we can't change it.

I once worked with a guy everyone took the piss out of because he came up with these grand stories. People were saying once he claimed he had been in Paris the afternoon before- I mean- not impossible from the UK on a day trip I guess but they clearly had reason to doubt it. Anyway- I thought- how lovely- whether it was true or not. I was stuck in a horrible store with no windows, horrible customers stacking shelves. I know which I would prefer.

Maybe 'normies' are living a fantasy- a lie but I guess- so long as the illusion doesn't shatter, who's the better off in the end? We're all stuck on this rock for the time being and it isn't very easy to leave it. Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be nicer to live a happy pointless life rather than a depressed pointless existence.

 

[Snatsbats]

I feel the same way as you. It does seem kind of delusional to believe your life has great purpose. I can't say I'm exactly jealous of their delusions but I suppose sometimes I do wonder what it's like to live like that. I'm not really sure who's better off in the end. Seeing as it's all pretty pointless anyway, is there any real benefit to seeing the horrible 'truth?' Seeing as we can't change it.

I once worked with a guy everyone took the piss out of because he came up with these grand stories. People were saying once he claimed he had been in Paris the afternoon before- I mean- not impossible from the UK on a day trip I guess but they clearly had reason to doubt it. Anyway- I thought- how lovely- whether it was true or not. I was stuck in a horrible store with no windows, horrible customers stacking shelves. I know which I would prefer.

Maybe 'normies' are living a fantasy- a lie but I guess- so long as the illusion doesn't shatter, who's the better off in the end? We're all stuck on this rock for the time being and it isn't very easy to leave it. Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be nicer to live a happy pointless life rather than a depressed pointless existence.

But those people arent happy. Happiness isnt a constant. To be able to feel happiness you have to solve a problem are do something meaningfull. Most people do the exact same thing everyday. They live comfortably but they arent happy all the time. Dont be jealous. Most people suffer alot. Its because of this delusion that they think it has a purpose that they continue. I mean, why did so many people in the concentration camps in nazi germany continue. I have seen those camps with my own eyes and read all the horrible things they did there. Those people certainly werent happy.

 

[universe]

I feel the same way as you. It does seem kind of delusional to believe your life has great purpose. I can't say I'm exactly jealous of their delusions but I suppose sometimes I do wonder what it's like to live like that. I'm not really sure who's better off in the end. Seeing as it's all pretty pointless anyway, is there any real benefit to seeing the horrible 'truth?' Seeing as we can't change it.

I once worked with a guy everyone took the piss out of because he came up with these grand stories. People were saying once he claimed he had been in Paris the afternoon before- I mean- not impossible from the UK on a day trip I guess but they clearly had reason to doubt it. Anyway- I thought- how lovely- whether it was true or not. I was stuck in a horrible store with no windows, horrible customers stacking shelves. I know which I would prefer.

Maybe 'normies' are living a fantasy- a lie but I guess- so long as the illusion doesn't shatter, who's the better off in the end? We're all stuck on this rock for the time being and it isn't very easy to leave it. Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be nicer to live a happy pointless life rather than a depressed pointless existence.

I often ask myself this question. Do I prefer a horrible truth, or a beautiful illusion? I have always favored hard truths in all aspects of my life. I tell myself that it may be a mistake, that I should laine on "normal" people. But at the same time, I can't do it, I can't close my eyes to the reality of our world and our existence. I can't settle for an illusion. I don't know if there is a solution, but if there was, I wouldn't even be sure I wanted to take it. I really want to die even if things get better.

 

[Forever Sleep]

But those people arent happy. Happiness isnt a constant. To be able to feel happiness you have to solve a problem are do something meaningfull. Most people do the exact same thing everyday. They live comfortably but they arent happy all the time. Dont be jealous. Most people suffer alot. Its because of this delusion that they think it has a purpose that they continue. I mean, why did so many people in the concentration camps in nazi germany continue. I have seen those camps with my own eyes and read all the horrible things they did there. Those people certainly werent happy.

I do take your point and agree that a lot of people indeed aren't particularly happy- at least- not all the time. 'Happy' probably wasn't the best term- perhaps 'more able to cope with the shittiness of it all' would be better.

In terms of 'meaningfulness'- yes, it's also sad that so many people get stuck in jobs and lives that they don't find fulfilling. Still, I suppose to be able to 'cope' with life at all, people try to find meaning/ distractions. Not sure that's necessarily a bad thing- even though it might be a delusional lie.

I see life a bit like being chucked into a fast flowing river. Does it really do any good to keep swimming against the current? I'm not saying we SHOULD all just mindlessly 'go with the flow.' I think the world needs people who question and resist. That said- for the individual person doing all the 'fighting' and 'resisting'- they aren't going to be enjoying it and they are unlikely to be able to change it. Again- I'm NOT saying we SHOULDN'T feel like this- I don't even think we have much of a choice. All I'm saying is- I wonder if life would be nicer/ easier if we were able to believe (even somewhat) in those delusions also.

In terms of the concentration camps, I feel like that's a very extreme situation. I can't begin to fathom how those poor people coped. Honestly, they weren't really the demographic I was referring to. I was thinking more along the lines of my and your next door neighbours. (Whom in my case seem reasonably OK with life- as far as I can tell- both sides like it enough to have brought children into the world anyhow.)

Perhaps it would be better for everyone to think like us. I guess once people have lost their illusions in life, they will either cause some sort of uprising and change or mass CTB.

I often ask myself this question. Do I prefer a horrible truth, or a beautiful illusion? I have always favored hard truths in all aspects of my life. I tell myself that it may be a mistake, that I should laine on "normal" people. But at the same time, I can't do it, I can't close my eyes to the reality of our world and our existence. I can't settle for an illusion. I don't know if there is a solution, but if there was, I wouldn't even be sure I wanted to take it. I really want to die even if things get better.

Absolutely- you've said it a lot more eloquently than me. That's the trouble really- it's difficult to 'un-see' things- especially when it is your entire outlook on life.

 

[Efilismislife]

because we already been born and got no choice
exactly like the movie hunger games
except if painless exit is possible and easy

 

[ClownMe]

Yep, when you're born you're doomed to suffering and eventually death.

 

[SamTam33]

It makes me wonder why some people get so mad when we wish we had cancer. Life for most of us is a slow, excruciating death anyway. So what's the difference...

 

[Efilismislife]

It makes me wonder why some people get so mad when we wish we had cancer. Life for most of us is a slow, excruciating death anyway. So what's the difference...

If theres no difference people wont gather here for less painful way to die

They just put plastic bag over their head and zip tie their hands/handcuff, etc
Or drown themselves with bag full of heavy rocks



it does feel different spending 1000 days in excruciating pain every minutes vs 1000 days joyful at least

 

[SamTam33]

If theres no difference people wont gather here for less painful way to die

it does feel different spending 1000 days in excruciating pain every minutes vs 1000 days joyful at least

I think it's kinda naive to expect death to be less painful than life.

Not everyone thinks that though. I fully expect to experience pain on my way out and I don't care if it comes from cancer or drowning or suffocating. Whatever.

As long as it ends in death.

 

[FuneralCry]

Life really is such a terrible, unnecessary concept filled with far too much unnecessary suffering. Of course it's tragic how life exists in the first place. As humans all that we are destined for is to deteriorate from old age and to me this is horrifying. So to me suicide will always be the more rational option as it would prevent pointless and painful days, I see no value in ageing and having to be trapped in this prison that is consciousness. I have never wanted anything to do with life at all. Only the thought of peaceful nonexistence, the absence of everything brings relief. To me experiencing life just leads to more suffering.

But yes as humans we are slowly dying, just waiting for our inevitable fate which is to cease to exist. I'm tired of delaying the inevitable, if leaving this world is straightforward then that would be ideal but of course what is the most ideal would be to never be born at all.

 

[Maudlin]

Nothing else this only result, come live wait death nothing have it all Wai t injury illness damahe all teriblr ,best thing not live not born come mean suffer suffer keep suffer , body live late die all not only oldage even small any die this just same race death time comr

I can't help but wonder if there's some kind of lesson to be learned from it... if there's something I'm missing.

*electronic hugs*
I hope you find peace.

 

[Efilismislife]

I think it's kinda naive to expect death to be less painful than life.

Not everyone thinks that though. I fully expect to experience pain on my way out and I don't care if it comes from cancer or drowning or suffocating. Whatever.

As long as it ends in death.

So youre not looking for method here if you dont care about pain? why then?

theres a wide range degree of pain from mild, moderate, to excruciating
i experience where i almost die twice, dying and it traumatized me

thats why im afraid

At least peoole look for a more humane way to die
especially if their lives already full of pain(at least for me)

 

[SamTam33]

So youre not looking for method here if you dont care about pain? why then?

theres a wide range degree of pain from mild, moderate, to excruciating
i experience where i almost die twice, dying and it traumatized me

thats why im afraid

At least peoole look for a more humane way to die
especially if their lives already full of pain(at least for me)

It's not the potential for pain that's stopping me. It's the fear of failing. I've tried so many times, I'm certain I only have one more chance to get it right.

I won't be able to keep trying for infinity without screwing myself up permanently.

In the case of jumping, it's staying sober long enough to drive the 8 hours to my destination and overcoming any SI that might arise.

I can barely sober up to drive half a mile to buy cigarettes. The thought of being alcohol-free for 500 miles...

It's never been about pain for me. TBH, it kinda irks me that people are so hung up on going out "peacefully." If you could manifest peacefulness then wouldn't you have found a way to do it in life??

Dying will always be the ultimate goal. To hell with comfort.

 

[Efilismislife]

Plastic bag+zipper your hands, lock it up, handcuff, etc?

Thats tons of accessible method if you dont care about pain

The only thing that stops me is SI

It's never been about pain for me. TBH, it kinda irks me that people are so hung up on going out "peacefully." If you could manifest peacefulness then wouldn't you have found a way to do it in life??

The sole reason for majority of people to ctb is because of helplessness

Life involves dealing with other people, competition oppression authority, threats, disease, financial issues, social issues, etc etc that needs to be in control for the rest of their long lives

if people have the power to control all that, have life goes on your way, majority of people dont need to escape their sufferings by ctb

 

[SamTam33]

I'm sure I would eventually just snag the bag on something and rip it to get air.

Like you said, SI is the main thing we have to overcome.

Zip tying your hands does nothing to immobilize your joints. I'd still be able to reach the bag and rip it off. Those pesky elbows...

 

[Efilismislife]

I'm sure I would eventually just snag the bag on something and rip it to get air.

Like you said, SI is the main thing we have to overcome.

Zip tying your hands does nothing to immobilize your joints. I'd still be able to reach the bag and rip it off. Those pesky elbows...

I mean tie your hand behind your back with handcuff or zip tie, etc
and even better secure that to table or something so you cant move around

I watched that on video

but i cant do it since its seems painful

i experience gasping for air before and it drives me nuts

 

[SamTam33]

A bag isn't that hard to rip. I could probably grab it with my teeth or tear it on the bed post. But it's a thought.

I'm pursuing something more definitive. Especially as I'm convinced I only have one more shot.

(Laughing out loud as I picture myself running around my house with a bag on my head)

 

[Efilismislife]

A bag isn't that hard to rip. I could probably grab it with my teeth or tear it on the bed post. But it's a thought.

(Laughing out loud as I picture myself running around my house with a bag on my head)

A thick bag thats uneasy to tear up

Thats why i said tie it up to a heavy table, cabinet also or window or anything that secure

 

[SamTam33]

Ok. Thanks for the tips

 

[SamTam33]

I read where it was suggested to hold the bag open to breathe, after ingesting drugs to cause unconsciousness.

Once you lose consciousness, presumably you'd stop holding it open and the elastic you placed around the bottom of the bag would cause it to close around your neck.

This seems easier than tying up the hands while fully conscious.

There's still lots to consider but it seems straightforward enough.

I'm sure this is discussed at length in the Inert Gas Megathread, but if anyone can think of ways this simplified method might fail, please let me know.

One site says brain death was all but guaranteed after 15 minutes with no oxygen and no one will find me for weeks. So being discovered or interrupted is a non-factor.

 

[Efilismislife]

I read where it was suggested to hold the bag open to breathe, after ingesting drugs to cause unconsciousness.

Once you lose consciousness, presumably you'd stop holding it open and the elastic you placed around the bottom of the bag would cause it to close around your neck.

This seems easier than tying up the hands while fully conscious.

There's still lots to consider but it seems straightforward enough.

I'm sure this is discussed at length in the Inert Gas Megathread, but if anyone can think of ways this simplified method might fail, please let me know.

One site says brain death was all but guaranteed after 15 minutes with no oxygen and no one will find me for weeks. So being discovered or interrupted is a non-factor.

I learn about gas method but its a different method than the plastic bag suffocation that i mention
which doesnt use gas
(I also read success stories with it)

anyway if one doesnt care about pain theres an easier accessible and effective method that i forgot to mention and just remember when i just read it. Which is poison.

But its so painful so i dont wanna use it



Forgot to add
if you can obtain the gas and set it all up its a good option

 

[makethepainstop]

Nothing else this only result, come live wait death nothing have it all Wai t injury illness damahe all teriblr ,best thing not live not born come mean suffer suffer keep suffer , body live late die all not only oldage even small any die this just same race death time comr

I agree, you do have a knack for spotting the truth about this wretched thing known as life. Life seems to cling to some of us like a disease, even when our suffering is titanic. As always mush love to you and your observations of things as they are.