Don’t jump to conclusions when someone is giving legitimate advice….. response to SN not being best method.

[SchrodingerIsDed]

I'm NGL, like.... SN seems like an extremely painful method to me and like something I'd regret in the throws of it and die extremely regretfully even if I wanted it with my full self. I remember that few years old post with the person who survived a SN attempt and her lips went blue, she was in immense pain. People, if i remember correctly, criticized her for not doing it right AND the larger majority claimed she was a fake profile to tarnish suicide with pride (which upset me, because she had very obviously-her pictures of her lips blue and the timing of her posts lined up, as well as the fact that her initial posts upon taking the dose was very cut and dry and seemed very eager. I had no doubt it was real.


Personally I think SN is painful but people are in denial. Sorry to say. Sorry, guys. I would not be able to attempt after reading as much as I could on it. I'd rather just take fentanyl

Not according to like what was it 20 people in the PPH who died from sn peacefully. Who knows if fent is peaceful either. We don't really know. But yeah I might prefer fent, too. The PPH rates sn as 6/10 for peacefulness. Which is kinda like a 60% score, which would be failing. But if you mix it with benzos and time it right death should probably be pretty fast, if nothing else, and not terribly painful.

Most self-reports on here state they were just drowsy, confused, and a bit uncomfortable, not in a lot of pain.

 

[rozeske]

People aren't out to get anyone that survives sn. Since it's a method many consider on using they will ask questions to get to the bottom of the issue why it failed to the person. Usually the problem turns out to be what they used and how they used it and not the method itself. All of which would never be known if not for the questions and discussions. Also considering how many anti-choicers hate availability of sn and how they are known to post here to try and scare people off the method it's only normal to be sceptical of stories that are far from the usual route of how sn actually works. I think had you initially made your post on what protocol you followed and your condition and how it wasn't a suitable method for you instead of what you first posted you might have gotten a different reaction. I'm sorry you went through all that. It already feels bad enough when an attempt fails but the sn treatment in on itself can be more traumatic than the attempt.

I'm NGL, like.... SN seems like an extremely painful method to me and like something I'd regret in the throws of it and die extremely regretfully even if I wanted it with my full self. I remember that few years old post with the person who survived a SN attempt and her lips went blue, she was in immense pain. People, if i remember correctly, criticized her for not doing it right AND the larger majority claimed she was a fake profile to tarnish suicide with pride (which upset me, because she had very obviously-her pictures of her lips blue and the timing of her posts lined up, as well as the fact that her initial posts upon taking the dose was very cut and dry and seemed very eager. I had no doubt it was real.

It was likely a real attempt but after the discussion (which we can agree could have been dialed back a bit on the aggressiveness) it was concluded that the recommended dose for her weight was not taken, it was sipped over some time and second cup after vomiting wasn't consumed but more importantly it was sn from the pc source back then which at that time a third party vendor was selling nitrate in pc's nitrite bottle.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

A blanket statement would be….
"SN will fail every time"
My statements were incredibly valid, incredibly important, and absolutely needs to be considered AND included in your "blanket" protocol…..

Whatever you think...

 

[Dante_]

People, if i remember correctly, criticized her for not doing it right AND the larger majority claimed she was a fake profile to tarnish suicide with pride (which upset me, because she had very obviously-her pictures of her lips blue and the timing of her posts lined up, as well as the fact that her initial posts upon taking the dose was very cut and dry and seemed very eager. I had no doubt it was real.

You are referring to IntelligentLeg, while the criticism was harsh, in retrospect, it did seem like details weren't adding up plus as far as I can remember, she may have bought SN from a source that was found to not be reliable, the name may have been Pro-cure although she herself said that she may have not successful because of her weight back then but who knows. Unfortunately there will be some people who will be unnecessarily hurtful to the individuals and their effort to even come back and explain what went wrong but those are definitely in the minority, I generally think people on ss are open minded enough to accept that things can go wrong but at the same time, details have to be filled in to the fullest extent in order to have a clear explanation otherwise speculation leads no one anywhere.

Personally I think SN is painful but people are in denial

Also, are you suggesting ss users are desperate enough to be in denial? I don't think that is a fair thing to say, a lot of people here have been through rigorous evaluation of the options before them and chose the one that they're comfortable with. I don't think anyone here would be in denial of a method that's painful when discomfort itself would be a big deterrent, while I do agree that the discomfort around sn is varied per individual response, I do not think that means it is indefinitely painful.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

I dunno who the fuck these people are that think everyone has access to fentanyl. I definitely do not have your life. And the pain thing, if you're gonna bitch about that - "most" reports I've read here, including friends GBT's & pph etc talk about mild discomfort & the worst of it seems to be the sound of the death rattle, for which it may be traumatic to listen to, but not experience. And then dead. How much pain are you gonna be in if you shoot yourself in the head with a shotgun & flinch at the last second? If you try to jump in front of a train but stumble? If you yeet off a building that "should" guarantee death but doesn't???
And yes the PPH downgraded the score but it is still included in the PEACEFUL pill handbook, researched with witnessed deaths by medical professionals.
Plus every single person on this forum (as far as I am aware ) is alive. Not dead. No experts here.
Just people making tough decisions they may not have ever thought they'd have to make.
But even then, just because people have researched SN & found relief that it exists & they can get access & it's the best possible solution for them - like me - does not mean for a second that I would encourage anyone else to choose it. I would also not encourage anyone to use any other method, it's a highly personal decision, with a lot of factors to consider (how much time you have, how much money, which country you live in, whether you're comfortable with violence or breaking the law & on & on & on).
Plus it's none of my damn business & I've got no guarantee of the age of the person on an internet forum etc.
I have chosen SN as the least shitty option for me, out of a sea of shitty options. As always, if or when a better option became available for me, I would drop SN like a hot rock, without a moment's hesitation, use the better method, die quicker, & stop engaging with this shit, which I keep trying & failing to do....