Does Propofol which killed Michael Jackson work

[ChrisLeeHZ]

Propofol can be easily bought on Alibaba in China,can it kill a man peacefully?

 

[Pluto]

I thought he died because of a particular combination of medicines.

 

[suysayd]

"Propofol, marketed as Diprivan, among other names, is a short-acting medication that results in a decreased level of consciousness and a lack of memory for events."
Did not know this existed until now. Looks like the solution to all our SI problems. Interesting to discuss. I'm waiting for more opinions and knowledgeable people.

 

[Midgardsorm]

It causes a very short-term coma that can be controlled by the injecting more or other drugs. It is used in heavy surgeries as a way to keep the patient unconscious and pain-free. Higher dosage it's probably lethal, but in his case, it was more likely because of other drugs. Also, Propofol puts the patient in coma, which it's not actually sleep. The brain does not undergo a sleep phase called REM which is an essential part of the sleep cycle.
Which means, he were actually not sleeping. They said it was like he were sleep deprived for 60 days, that would be making his body very weak.

He used Propofol because he, like myself, suffered from severe OCD, Anxiety and a very rare condition called Empty Nose Syndrome that leaves the sufferer breathlessness all the time.
I don't have the ENS. but my condition is very close to it.

He knew the risks, but he was kinda forced to do it.

 

[phoenixx]

Do you think you could use this just before hanging to make it a little easier? Or wouldn't it work like this?

 

[Midgardsorm]

Do you think you could use this just before hanging to make it a little easier? Or wouldn't it work like this?

No. Not a chance.

It needs to be diluted in sodium chloride or dextrose first and then injected via IV. It also works very quickly, you would pass out before you know it.

 

[doesntevenmatter]

Do you think you could use this just before hanging to make it a little easier? Or wouldn't it work like this?

I doubt it. Maybe if you took a miniscule amount, but it is used to induce unconsciousness so I doubt you'd have enough wits about you to still be able to go through with something like hanging, and that's even if you were conscious for any length of time. I was given propofol for a procedure and I was out like a light immediately. That was through an IV though, so I don't know.

 

[phoenixx]

No. Not a chance.

It needs to be diluted in sodium chloride or dextrose first and then injected via IV. It also works very quickly, you would pass out before you know it.

I doubt it. Maybe if you took a miniscule amount, but it is used to induce unconsciousness so I doubt you'd have enough wits about you to still be able to go through with something like hanging, and that's even if you were conscious for any length of time. I was given propofol for a procedure and I was out like a light immediately. That was through an IV though, so I don't know.

Ok, I had no idea do you think there is anything you can take before hanging to make things a little easier or to stop SI kicking in?

 

[doesntevenmatter]

Ok, I had no idea do you think there is anything you can take before hanging to make things a little easier or to stop SI kicking in?

It really just depends on what works for you and your body/mind. Alcohol seems to help my SI a bit. There's always downers and the like that may or may not work for you. All that being said, just make sure you're ready before you go a route like that. I've always kind of felt like if you need something to be ready then you might not be quite ready, but obviously it's different for everyone. For me I just have such a fear of the unknown that I'd probably have to get shit faced to go through with it lol. I'm generally hesitant of drugs and such other than just alcohol so I'm not sure of anything specific. I think people have tried benzos and/or alcohol. Like I said, probably just depends on what works for you.

 

[phoenixx]

It really just depends on what works for you and your body/mind. Alcohol seems to help my SI a bit. There's always downers and the like that may or may not work for you. All that being said, just make sure you're ready before you go a route like that. I've always kind of felt like if you need something to be ready then you might not be quite ready, but obviously it's different for everyone. For me I just have such a fear of the unknown that I'd probably have to get shit faced to go through with it lol. I'm generally hesitant of drugs and such other than just alcohol so I'm not sure of anything specific. I think people have tried benzos and/or alcohol. Like I said, probably just depends on what works for you.

Yeah, I figured alcohol might work. I often take a bunch of strong painkillers (codeine) with vodka and that usually knocks me right out so I'm thinking of doing the same before I hang myself because I can easily get the painkillers and alcohol and I'm pretty sure it'll help with the SI. I have a fear of the unknown too, I think that's the main reason why I haven't been able to successfully ctb yet. But I've always been sober in my attempts, so the next time I'm going to have a handful of painkillers and vodka before I do it and see if it works. Thanks for the advice!

 

[peacefulhorizons]

Absolutely. However, it's IV only and it has to be infused with a gravity drip setup or an electronic infusion pump with a fairly high infusion rate. A very technical method but it's an amazing way to go.

 

[NormaJeane]

Then there will be legal problems with importing medicines. That is why I never have imported or bought medicines on the Internet.

 

[stevepwn]

Yes but its not a public drug the public have access too. only medical profesionals have access so you can't get it.

 

[NeverGoodEnuff]

I worked many years in a large hospital in ICU and the operating room. I have given it to many (hundreds of) patients and received it as a patient myself.

Propofol is used as an anesthesia drug, and as others have said, it puts you out in just a few seconds. It is only available in IV form, and it does not need to be diluted or mixed. It is opaque, white, and looks like milk. It frequently does burn at the IV site when given. One of the major advantages of this drug is that it has a very short half-life; it wears off very quickly; in maybe 15 minutes you are wide awake. Another advantage is that it rarely causes post-op nausea as other anesthesia drugs often do. In addition to anesthesia for surgery, it is also used to place people in a "chemical coma", often used for head injuries to reduce the pressure in the brain by reducing brain activity. It is strongly recommended that a patient not receive this drug as a continuous IV drip for more than a few days because it has a high fat content and can cause a buildup of fat in the blood, resulting in a lethal fat embolism in the lungs and heart especially. I saw this happen once. I have never seen this drug used without the patient being immediately intubated after the dose is given because it will stop breathing if enough is given to induce coma or anesthesia and "enough" isn't very much. If a patient just needed to be sleepy or ultra-relaxed, other drugs were used. If a chemical coma was required for more than a day or two, again, other drugs were used. I strongly suspect that Michael Jackson was either given or self-administered propofol, was alone, and stopped breathing and nobody was there to resuscitate him. Very sad.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Propofol is very dangerous. Even the standard induction dose stops breathing. Many nurses and doctors died in the resting room with doses as small as 50-100 mg. MJ's doctor was a cardiologist and was ignorant of propofol's mechanism of action.

I know it is sold in powder form on Alibaba. The oral bioavailability of propofol is very low 2.7%. You can't drink it like pentobarbital. You can't mix it with water for IV use either because it's hydrophobic and insoluble in water. It is highly lipophilic and oil soluble, so an oil emulsion is required. I don't know if it is possible to just dissolve in oil and use IV without an emulsion. In its medical use, it is dissolved and emulsified in soybean oil. I don't know if just injecting oil into the circulation without an emulsion would work.

Propofol is my method. Propofol is a safe and peaceful method when done correctly, but IV port exercises are necessary. Since it requires an IV port, it is a method that very few people will prefer. Considering the stress of CTB, while even drinking N is difficult, battling an IV port and infusion set may not be easy for everyone.

 

[blacksand]

Inert gas will knock you out dead quicker and more surely than prop will.

 

[Escapee]

Do you think you could use this just before hanging to make it a little easier? Or wouldn't it work like this?

After adjusting the noose around the neck properly You can inject 20 ml of propofol emulsion which contain 200mg of propofol.Using cannula inserted in your vein. You can also inject 40 mg of lidocaine 2 minutes before injecting the propofol. To reduce propofol injection pain. It is one of the most peaceful and reliable way to ctb. If you are Not found before you are dead.