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noname223

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I am a counterexample. I am extremely self-disciplined. I was raised in a Prussian stlye. I was beaten up by my mom and a daily basis for more than a decade as child and teenager. I am a nervous wreck now that will never contribute to society. I am very neurotic so much that it hurts. And it is very counterprodutive and impedes productivity. I might be a shell of a normal human being.

I am now attending college again. And most of my (German) peers seem to be lazy. I might be judgemental. I don't know them. Mental illnesses are spiking. Social media might play a role in that. Maybe self-diagnoses. There might be a point that our generation is more sensitive towards performance pressure. However, I am certainly not in the position to judge. I don't attend as many courses as an average student. However, I am a nursing case (lol), officially disabled and I think noone would go to college with my diverse issues.

But for the courses I attend I am well prepared and I have a lot of knowledge already because I read about politics in freetime all the time. I might impressed my peers and my professors. However, I think I am more or less a fraud because I mostly consume popular science articles. I think most of my readings are superficial.

There is a new world order emerging. Europe will lose power. The US will lose power. I ask myself how shall we compete with more than one billion Chinese that are treated/drilled like dogs in their education system. There is a prohbition for apps like Tiktok which is ironic because it is a Chinese app. Which could be a sign it might be a Trojan horse. Teenagers have limited times for gaming. While teenagers in the West aim for becoming influencers. In China there is strict crackdown on drugs users and drug dealers. While in the US most (hyperbole) superstars are drug-addicts. Of course there are phenomena like Hikkomori in countries like Japan. But can we really compete with that system?

Personally, I don't know. On the surface it looks like we are determined to fall apart. But that might be too early to call. In Europe we have better welfare systems and better health care systems. The latter has clear economic advantages compared to the US. There is less corruption. The former is in my opinion no hindrance to growth. I think the bigger problem compared to the US is the lack of venture capital and our mentality when it comes to high risk decisions/regulation. We are more risk averse. However, it seems like the huge inequality that the US system comes with a high price/societal polarization.

We have one big advantage compared to China. We live in democracies. Sometimes this is an advantage, sometimes a disadvantage. The literature though says overall it has a positive impact on the economy because of the predictability and safety for planning. Something Trump just ruins. Is this enough to compete I don't know.

There are probably way more points to consider but I am running out of time. Thus far my analysis rather sounds pessimisic. In the end I think there are other reasons why the Western world will lose relative power compared to the rest of the world.
 
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I think it depends on the person and subject they specialise in. It makes sense that hard work and dedication likely yield results. However, some people seem to produce their best work under pressure. I've known very clever people leave their work till the very last minute and still produce something incredible. Would they be even more incredible if they put in as much time as the majority have to? Not sure really. Maybe their style would become stymied and stale if they worked like that. I've known very wealthy and successful people who do work hard but, aren't always the best prepared!

While I'm dubious about crediting/ quoting someone who has sexual allegations placed against them, Neil Gaimen gave a very inspirational degree ceremony speech where he said that to be successful, you needed three things: You needed to be very good in your field, reliable and a nice person. He followed that by saying- you can get away with two out of three! I think it has truth to it. If someone is truly that excellent and gifted, they do sometimes seem to be let off the hook for occassional lapses. Probably not long-term though.

I don't think it's a hard and fast rule though. I think the world probably needs all different types of people. It's kind of frustrating that some people don't seem to need to work that hard to achieve great things, that some are amazing and seem to throw it away. That some give their all and never quite make it. Just luck I suppose. Genes, upbringing, circumstances.

It swings both ways though- as you say. Some people work like crazy to the point of burn out. I've also known people like that too. Still, I see that as false economy- unless they do have a condition where they feel compelled to do that of course. That is more tricky. But, I've known someone boast about how hard they worked on something. How they got next to no sleep. Then, they had a meltdown at the end for a few weeks. I've always been more of a tortoise- rather than the hare. More of a steady plodder. We're all different though. All working with what we have.
 
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I ask myself how shall we compete
By learning Chineese and leeching off their achievements. It's not the whole truth, but I'm serious.
As a European, I don't expect my country to be dominant. We're still contributing to the whole, though.
There is a prohbition for apps like Tiktok which is ironic because it is a Chinese app. Which could be a sign it might be a Trojan horse.
I don't think it's much different from the U.S. grilling Facebook. Most social media are Trojan horses in the sense that they harvest data and serve advertising, under the guise of being benign communication tools. In terms of traditional malware, I doubt any of them are Trojans.
Of course there are phenomena like Hikkomori in countries like Japan.
You might want to look into "bai lan" and "tang ping".
We live in democracies. Sometimes this is an advantage, sometimes a disadvantage.
As attracting votes becomes more and more of a science, we seem to be moving away from political debates, replacing it with more and more populist nonsense.
Does democracy really work in the long run, or does it inevitably succumb to propaganda and manipulation? Most systems collapse eventually.
 

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