Discussion Does death guarantee peace?

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

No conscious, no suffering.

This. Once unconscious, pain is over.

 

[MaybeSoon]

I think it does, except we wont feel at peace because we wont feel anything.

Everything we know and think has been experienced and learned through our senses, without a functioning brain we will experience nothing and cease to exist.

Sometimes I find that comforting and sometimes I don't.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

No. There is no guarantee of anything, only what you choose to believe.

 

[Ijustwantpeace]

No, it feels like nothing. Peace is a feeling. Its ironic because of my username, but thats just an expression. Thats why its so important that before you die you feel at peace, because there is nothing after.

 

[Sail_to_Infinity]

This. Once unconscious, pain is over.

Are you really sure? :) Remember that when you're unconscious, time doesn't matter. If the variety in which our Universe is placed is infinite, it contains an infinite number of Universe, or the Universe itself is infinite. The matter of time is when we gain consciousness again as some form of existence in some reality. Exactly as it was before we appeared in this one here and now as people. Even if it were to last for billions of times more years than Graham's number.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

There are definitely no guarantees when it comes to something like death. It could be just a split second and you're completely gone into the void - nothing. It could be that split second stretches on for what seems like an eternity and the feelings that you have at the time of your death are just stretched out until they themselves are the void. It could be that you die and see the white light and go to somewhere that is beautiful and amazing, like a dream, and then again, you could see red flames and go to a place that is nothing but pure anguish and speculation of what you've done for an eternity. No one knows. No one will ever know, because no one has ever died for a significant period of time and come back from it to tell the story. In my opinion, it all depends on what you believe, and I tend to believe that whatever you're feeling and thinking at the time of your death, whatever you believe is on the other side, is what is going to BE on the other side. If you believe you will see your loved ones again, friends, those who have passed before you, etc., you will. If you believe it's going to be nothingness, then it will be. That's just my opinion, though, and the fear of death being worse than life is certainly a possibility and makes me wonder.

Stop. Absolute nightmare scenario would be walking around in your head like Jim Carry in 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind' trying to stay alive

 

[Epsilon0]

The only thing guaranteed is that your body will disintegrate and the atoms who were once you, will become part of something else.

 

[marcusuk63]

If reincarnation was real and the life you have now is so bad you want to end it just keep killing yourself until you get a life you are happy with .
it might take 1000`s of years though as the queue is very long as 100 billion people have lived on the earth and only 7.5 billion are on it now ,
So unless you have a VIP pass to get to the front you will have a long wait lol

 

[ManWithNoName]

I'd imagine it gives peace in the sense you feel nothing. But nobody can confirm anything, only speculate.

True. This reminds me of the famous Shakespearen monologue "To Be Or Not To Be" from Hamlet in the nunnery scene.

Ultimately, the conclusion was that the vast majority choose to live because of the fear of what lies beyond, be it nothingness, or a better continued existence on another plane / dimension, or an "Almighty something" that frowns upon mortals who carry out ctb.

The only thing guaranteed is that your body will disintegrate and the atoms who were once you, will become part of something else.

This does not prove or disprove anything, but found it food for thought:

 

[marcusuk63]

True. This reminds me of the famous Shakespearen monologue "To Be Or Not To Be" from Hamlet in the nunnery scene.

Ultimately, the conclusion was that the vast majority choose to live because of the fear of what lies beyond, be it nothingness, or a better continued existence on another plane / dimension, or an "Almighty something" that frowns upon mortals who carry out ctb.



This does not prove or disprove anything, but found it food for thought:

I found it to be a load of gobbledygook , id just like to know what he is smoking .

 

[Deleted-User-0]

In my humble opinion you'll feel how you used to feel before you were born! I.e Nothing...

 

[MsMaudlin]

I have to believe it does ❤

 

[Lost in a Dream]

id just like to know what he is smoking .

And I want to know where I can get some of that.

 

[Berlin76]

Does it?

This documentary shows and talks about also when people die in the wrong way that their consciousness will be restless in the afterlife. Or when people didn't let go or did not round up life in a respectful way

 

[highlyvolatile]

I would hope that it does. In my case i hope death means peaceful sleep and nice dreams. Or nothing. I'd be fine with either.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Because we are alive lol. Do you remember the year 1919? No you don't because you didn't exist. And you won't exist again. Except as dust. And that's ok

Oh no lol, there are thousands of similar cases, strange but true I do look at all aspects of these rebirth cases, why would he say it, did they do it for fame or fortune, he's appeared on TV a lot, but for fortune they never wrote a book like a lot of people have and he just continued in school, I remember reading a message on YouTube someone said they went to school with him and they said he had a lot of strange knowledge but didn't act if he was special.

So anyway the jury is still out, I'm not knocking your view I just hope after we all suffer on Earth, hopefully there is something special and rewarding waiting for us when we die as a reward.



Cheers Geo

This documentary shows and talks about also when people die in the wrong way that their consciousness will be restless in the afterlife. Or when people didn't let go or did not round up life in a respectful way

Buddhism, Hinduism, and other similar religions say we reincarnate. They do speak of different dimensions of existence though. Perhaps, reincarnation can actually be turned down based on a person's desires?

Christianity say we go to Heaven / souls are at rest until Book of Revelation occurs. Maybe souls are going to be brought back to this dimension?

In this thread, we hear that dead relatives are there to comfort those close to death.

How are bad people punished then? People who are truly bad cannot be convinced they did something bad.

I'm just trying to create a picture here guys.

I read when we die we are granted all the knowledge of the universe and in the life review we judge ourselves so what ever we done in life we experience in death so any bad deeds committed, you experience and feel the pain you caused.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I found it to be a load of gobbledygook , id just like to know what he is smoking .

I agree because It's gobbledygook that makes up human beings, and Shakespeare was really good at observing the human condition. Most people do not act because of fear, and the fear of the unknown a major factor.

 

[marcusuk63]

You Could write a new series of the Twilight Zone with all these far out claims lol

 

[R_N]

I have mixed feelings. Logically there should be nothing after I die, nothingness as others put it. I believe that. But part of me wish that was not the case and that I can experience something heavenly, a beautiful place where there is no suffering, only happiness. Tranquility. On the other hand being eternal scares me, that is why I'm confused. Plus I fear not existing also, which is totally mindblowing. I feel so much about it and can't even agree with myself on anything.

 

[UpandDownPrincess]

Does it?

I hope so.

 

[Jumper Geo]

You Could write a new series of the Twilight Zone with all these far out claims lol

The truth is out there, oh no I'm doing an X file now, lol

 

[jrums]

How do you know we won't exist again? When the Earth and our galaxy didn't exist, there was "nothingness," like you have described. So what you're saying is, when there is "nothingness," you can't exist again. Yet here we are, alive and existing, from nothingness.

We aren't from nothingness. Our parents fucked and gave us life. It's not some kind of magic. Very simple and basic. When that life ends you go back to not existing.
And why do you want to exist again? I've had enough of existing. It would be great to get a do-over but I don't want to be conscious for the rest of eternity.

 

[TheSuicidalEccentric]

We aren't from nothingness. Our parents fucked and gave us life. It's not some kind of magic. Very simple and basic. When that life ends you go back to not existing.
And why do you want to exist again? I've had enough of existing. It would be great to get a do-over but I don't want to be conscious for the rest of eternity.

It's not simple at all. It's fucking magnificent and beyond our full understanding. I think that how a woman can get pregnant and create life just from her and a man's powerful, sexual love, is magic. It definitely is magic.

I would kill to go back in time and exist again to do my life better, but yeah you probably can't redo life. I just think there IS something after death. There can't just be pure nothingness; there always was something.

 

[darkghost]

Yes, i think after the death we only cease to exist.

 

[Pol]

i dont think it guarantees peace, or even non-existense. who can tell anyway?

 

[TheSuicidalEccentric]

Peace is only a feeling possible to obtain in LIFE. There is no peace after, or in death. Peace is a human feeling. The brain cannot feel when dead.

 

[oxymoron]

Peace is only a feeling possible to obtain in LIFE. There is no peace after, or in death. Peace is a human feeling. The brain cannot feel when dead.

So there's no afterlife? Just nothingness?

 

[TheSuicidalEccentric]

So there's no afterlife? Just nothingness?

There definitely is something after death. We just can't comprehend or know what it is, since we have not experienced death yet.

 

[oxymoron]

There definitely is something after death. We just can't comprehend or know what it is, since we have not experienced death yet.

Same void like before being born I guess.

There definitely is something after death. We just can't comprehend or know what it is, since we have not experienced death yet.

50/50 chance of there being something and nothing at all.

 

[TheSuicidalEccentric]

Same void like before being born I guess.

50/50 chance of there being something and nothing at all.

No, there is a 100% chance of there being something. There always exists something. "Nothing" is not a real concept.

If there is just nothingness after death, then how were we born conscious and existing like this in the first place, from "nothingness"?