Does anyone know where to get SN in Europe?

[Cassia]

I've been searching and searching but I can't find anything that'll deliver it to Estonia. Neither have I been succesful in finding any sellers in Estonia. Can some please help me out? Please? I really just need to end it, and soon, really soon.

 

[Dystopia]

I've been searching and searching but I can't find anything that'll deliver it to Estonia. Neither have I been succesful in finding any sellers in Estonia. Can some please help me out? Please? I really just need to end it, and soon, really soon.

Check your PM's

 

[tlcmi]

Check your PM's

Can you PM me too?

 

[IronFist]

Check your PM's

I would also be grateful for a message <3

 

[Morphosis]

I still can't PM, had more posts but thread was deleted so went back to zero. Need someone who delivers SN to UK, apparently you have to prove you're a company now rather than an Individual?

 

[Stan]

I still can't PM, had more posts but thread was deleted so went back to zero. Need someone who delivers SN to UK, apparently you have to prove you're a company now rather than an Individual?

ebay

 

[Morphosis]

ebay

Thanks Stan, saw sellers from Poland and USA on ebay but shipping was going to take weeks, if I keep looking is there a UK based source? I don't have weeks, need it asap

 

[Stan]

you look on the ebay search page the top result in the sponsored link is UK based. Got mine in 3 days. Only selling really big bags now

 

[Morphosis]

you look on the ebay search page the top result in the sponsored link is UK based. Got mine in 3 days. Only selling really big bags now

Ah right ok maybe that's why I missed it coz was searching for 100g or 250g

 

[Roger]

you look on the ebay search page the top result in the sponsored link is UK based. Got mine in 3 days. Only selling really big bags now

It does seem that forces are at work in UK to restrict the sale of SN. Forgive me for repeating that the appointment of a "Minister for Suicide Prevention" ( a tabloidism if ever there was one) less than a year ago probably lies behind this, at least in part, by bringing extra pressure on suppliers, starting with the big reputable ones, and then moving on to the smaller sellers. The reasons given by suppliers for declining to provide are less than completely honest, to make refusal easier for them. You now increasingly see smaller quantities listed as "out of stock" or similar. Who wants to buy - or try to buy - 25 kg of the stuff, when our need is for no more than 25 gm ?

SN is a "reportable" poison rather than a regulated one, as I have explained before. However, the Poisons Act 1972 contains what we call a "Henry VIII clause" which would allow the government to shift substances between the reportable list and the regulated list without primary legislation. No doubt there is official reluctance to shift SN, as it would be restrictive to legitimate trade, given that a Home Office licence would be necessary to buy it. However, if more subtle measures don't work then the government could make the change by means of a Statutory Instrument (secondary legislation) which is a relatively straightforward thing to do.

Thanks Stan, saw sellers from Poland and USA on ebay but shipping was going to take weeks, if I keep looking is there a UK based source? I don't have weeks, need it asap

Why do you think delivery from Poland to UK will take "weeks" ?

 

[Elias]

I'm in France, ordered from Poland. Initially it should have taken a few days, instead it took weeks with customs and shit.

 

[Morphosis]

I'm in France, ordered from Poland. Initially it should have taken a few days, instead it took weeks with customs and shit.

That's what I was worried about

 

[Roger]

I'm in France, ordered from Poland. Initially it should have taken a few days, instead it took weeks with customs and shit.

Customs shouldn't have any interest in mail between EU states, should it ?

 

[Morphosis]

It does seem that forces are at work in UK to restrict the sale of SN. Forgive me for repeating that the appointment of a "Minister for Suicide Prevention" ( a tabloidism if ever there was one) less than a year ago probably lies behind this, at least in part, by bringing extra pressure on suppliers, starting with the big reputable ones, and then moving on to the smaller sellers. The reasons given by suppliers for declining to provide are less than completely honest, to make refusal easier for them. You now increasingly see smaller quantities listed as "out of stock" or similar. Who wants to buy - or try to buy - 25 kg of the stuff, when our need is for no more than 25 gm ?

SN is a "reportable" poison rather than a regulated one, as I have explained before. However, the Poisons Act 1972 contains what we call a "Henry VIII clause" which would allow the government to shift substances between the reportable list and the regulated list without primary legislation. No doubt there is official reluctance to shift SN, as it would be restrictive to legitimate trade, given that a Home Office licence would be necessary to buy it. However, if more subtle measures don't work then the government could make the change by means of a Statutory Instrument (secondary legislation) which is a relatively straightforward thing to do.


Why do you think delivery from Poland to UK will take "weeks" ?

Was worried about customs and when I clicked to order it gave an estimated delivery date end September so I didn't continue. That was a couple of weeks ago

It does seem that forces are at work in UK to restrict the sale of SN. Forgive me for repeating that the appointment of a "Minister for Suicide Prevention" ( a tabloidism if ever there was one) less than a year ago probably lies behind this, at least in part, by bringing extra pressure on suppliers, starting with the big reputable ones, and then moving on to the smaller sellers. The reasons given by suppliers for declining to provide are less than completely honest, to make refusal easier for them. You now increasingly see smaller quantities listed as "out of stock" or similar. Who wants to buy - or try to buy - 25 kg of the stuff, when our need is for no more than 25 gm ?

SN is a "reportable" poison rather than a regulated one, as I have explained before. However, the Poisons Act 1972 contains what we call a "Henry VIII clause" which would allow the government to shift substances between the reportable list and the regulated list without primary legislation. No doubt there is official reluctance to shift SN, as it would be restrictive to legitimate trade, given that a Home Office licence would be necessary to buy it. However, if more subtle measures don't work then the government could make the change by means of a Statutory Instrument (secondary legislation) which is a relatively straightforward thing to do.


Why do you think delivery from Poland to UK will take "weeks" ?

Was worried about customs and when I clicked to order it gave an estimated delivery date end September so I didn't continue. That was a couple of weeks ago

Customs shouldn't have any interest in mail between EU states, should it ?

Any border crossing will examine mail. Plus VERY high security where I live, although they are more worried about explosives I think

 

[Elias]

Customs shouldn't have any interest in mail between EU states, should it ?

That's what I thought, maybe I'm mistaken. My order said "September 9", it arrived in France the 10th and I waited and waited until it arrived. Either it's customs doing something or poor logistic. Either way I was kinda pissed off and freaking out lol.

 

[Roger]

Was worried about customs and when I clicked to order it gave an estimated delivery date end September so I didn't continue. That was a couple of weeks ago

Was worried about customs and when I clicked to order it gave an estimated delivery date end September so I didn't continue. That was a couple of weeks ago

Any border crossing will examine mail. Plus VERY high security where I live, although they are more worried about explosives I think

Both Poland and France are party to the Schengen Agreement, which permits the free passage of people, goods and services between the participating states. Maybe the delay was a supplier failing to despatch promptly, or a courier being tardy. I've had stuff (legal stuff - I break no laws) sent by mail from Poland to UK, and even though UK is not in Schengen my stuff was delivered very promptly. OTOH a recent legal delivery (my mobile phone) from the Middle East was delayed by UK Customs, and involved me having to stump up tax and duty.

I am not disbelieving your experience, just interested.

 

[Soul]

If you're in the EU ordering from an EU country, the only faster delivery is going to be from within your own country. I'd order from the EU and search locally for chemical supply companies while waiting. It's not very expensive.

 

[Morphosis]

Both Poland and France are party to the Schengen Agreement, which permits the free passage of people, goods and services between the participating states. Maybe the delay was a supplier failing to despatch promptly, or a courier being tardy. I've had stuff (legal stuff - I break no laws) sent by mail from Poland to UK, and even though UK is not in Schengen my stuff was delivered very promptly. OTOH a recent legal delivery (my mobile phone) from the Middle East was delayed by UK Customs, and involved me having to stump up tax and duty.

I am not disbelieving your experience, just interested.

Thanks Roger. That was @Elias in France with delayed goods, I haven't ordered yet but hopefully if I do it won't take that long. Was just hoping to avoid Customs if at all possible

 

[Stan]

with the advent of the dark web and home delivery drugs Amazon style, its no wonder that some parcels are being scanned, and don't forget, SN in its natural form looks like drugs.

 

[Morphosis]

with the advent of the dark web and home delivery drugs Amazon style, its no wonder that some parcels are being scanned, and don't forget, SN in its natural form looks like drugs.

Exactly

 

[Elias]

Yeah I was definitely aware of shengen, it's just that I have no idea how customs really work and if there are random checks etc. My anxiety just spiked when I saw "Estimated delivery: 9 spt" and nothing yet, not even an update. I was like "O fuk, and I'm already on probation and court ordered psych hold, THIS CANT BE HAPPENIN". Then I received the SN, but they put it on the neighbor's mailbox and it was awkward to have to ring someone else's doorbell to ask for your poison. I'm glad I only have to do this once.

 

[Stan]

Yeah I was definitely aware of shengen, it's just that I have no idea how customs really work and if there are random checks etc. My anxiety just spiked when I saw "Estimated delivery: 9 spt" and nothing yet, not even an update. I was like "O fuk, and I'm already on probation and court ordered psych hold, THIS CANT BE HAPPENIN". Then I received the SN, but they put it on the neighbor's mailbox and it was awkward to have to ring someone else's doorbell to ask for your poison. I'm glad I only have to do this once.

The freedom of movement doesn't relate at all to custom controls, that's people. free trade is about tariffs not being imposed. Countries national postal organisations, corporate courier and shipping with regard to crossing borders relate more to security and crime prevention (smuggling illegal items).

 

[Elias]

@Stan Thank you, I'll die a bit less ignorant! :D

 

[BeeLoyal]

I still can't PM, had more posts but thread was deleted so went back to zero. Need someone who delivers SN to UK, apparently you have to prove you're a company now rather than an Individual?

Yeah, its rare to find a vendor selling to a private person my vendor has been shutdown yesterday. (ebay, vendor from poland)