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So this is hard to explain but I'm spiralling a little over the past few weeks. I've had to isolate because of this stupid virus so I'm stuck in the house with no one to talk to other than my husband. He's amazing don't get me wrong but I always joke how I hate people but I'm missing my work mates. I'm very lucky to be part of a good team that lifts my mood a lot but being away from that is hard

Onto the main point. Whenever I shut my eyes or drift off into daydream, there seems to be a figure I can't shake. I don't see them in front of me in real life but in my head. It's like a tall slim girl with a blindfold like a bandage that's dirty and the same kind of thing around her mouth and almost binding around the chest and private area. Like this figure is stalking my psyche. Does anyone else get this or am I truly going mad?
 
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Oh I thought you meant partner and when you said husband I was even more certain. No I don't see anyone else (at all)
 
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Oh I thought you meant partner and when you said husband I was even more certain. No I don't see anyone else (at all)

No sorry it's hard to to explain but I feel like "she" is always there but I only see when I close my eyes or drift off in a daydream. It's like she's on my back weighing me down
 
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@Marriedwithsuicide Hypnagogic hallucinations are imagined sensations that seem very real. They occur as a person is falling asleep and are also referred to as sleep hallucinations. A person will experience vivid hallucinations as they fall asleep, or just before falling asleep. These can be images, smells, tastes, tactile sensations, or sounds. The most common hypnagogic hallucinations are visual. They may include images of people, animals, or moving objects. Images can be quite complex and detailed, and may not make any sense.

Its not uncommon. I've had it happen for years - especially that creepy feeling of someone there like you're describing. It isn't like schizophrenic hallucinations, you're not going nuts. I've also heard a voice calling my name clearly, conversations and loud noises and when I snap my eyes open it stops and only begins again when I'm drifting off.
 
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@Marriedwithsuicide Hypnagogic hallucinations are imagined sensations that seem very real. They occur as a person is falling asleep and are also referred to as sleep hallucinations. A person will experience vivid hallucinations as they fall asleep, or just before falling asleep. These can be images, smells, tastes, tactile sensations, or sounds. The most common hypnagogic hallucinations are visual. They may include images of people, animals, or moving objects.m Images can be quite complex and detailed, and may not make any sense.

Its not uncommon. I've had it happen for years - especially that creepy feeling of someone there like you're describing. It isn't like schizophrenic hallucinations, you're not going nuts. I've also heard a voice calling my name clearly, conversations and loud noises and when I snap my eyes open it stops and only begins again when I'm drifting off.

Thank you. She has only recently started to make an appearance and I don't know if she is trying to tell me something or not. Even right now I feel like she's watching over my shoulder
 
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Thank you. She has only recently started to make an appearance and I don't know if she is trying to tell me something or not. Even right now I feel like she's watching over my shoulder
Crazy as it sounds, I absolutely know what you mean... like I can't shake it off. I know it's not real, "they" aren't there yet feel like it's watching. A presence. Do you have sleeping problems? Too much, too little? My sleep is really messed up. It happens less when I can sleep on a more consistent schedule, around the same time etc. Sometimes sleeping too much can screw with everything just as much as insomnia. I think it's my subconscious thoughts going into dreams and mixing into that time right before sleep so it's possible it is a manifestation of something deep in the mind, somewhat like if someone watches a scary movie then has a nightmare about it or dreams about real conversations, memories and such. In that context, perhaps "she" is trying to tell you something - though it is the mind in reality. Hopefully that makes sense or I'm just a loon haha.
 
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Crazy as it sounds, I absolutely know what you mean... like I can't shake it off. I know it's not real, "they" aren't there yet feel like it's watching. A presence. Do you have sleeping problems? Too much, too little? My sleep is really messed up. It happens less when I can sleep on a more consistent schedule, around the same time etc. Sometimes sleeping too much can screw with everything just as much as insomnia. I think it's my subconscious thoughts going into dreams and mixing into that time right before sleep so it's possible it is a manifestation of something deep in the mind, somewhat like if someone watches a scary movie then has a nightmare about it or dreams about real conversations, memories and such. In that context, perhaps "she" is trying to tell you something - though it is the mind in reality. Hopefully that makes sense or I'm just a loon haha.

If you're a loon so am I. My sleep is all over the place. It really is too much or too little. If I do get to sleep about 10 or 11 I'm tossing and turning from 2 onwards. If I don't get to sleep til about now (2am) I could sleep all day
 
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If you're a loon so am I. My sleep is all over the place. It really is too much or too little. If I do get to sleep about 10 or 11 I'm tossing and turning from 2 onwards. If I don't get to sleep til about now (2am) I could sleep all day
Hmm so that's only 3-4 hours of sleep plus the tossing and turning, which isn't restful. Are you able to sleep all day or is it the same tossing? It's awful trying to make up for lost sleep. I go through bouts exactly the same or sleep too much, wake up sore from restless sleep then fall back asleep... it's a big cycle. Brain fog, as well.
 
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Hmm so that's only 3-4 hours of sleep plus the tossing and turning, which isn't restful. Are you able to sleep all day or is it the same tossing? It's awful trying to make up for lost sleep. I go through bouts exactly the same or sleep too much, wake up sore from restless sleep then fall back asleep... it's a big cycle. Brain fog, as well.

It's normally the same if I sleep during the day. I try to get exercise etc and keep myself busy or in some kind of a routine but it just messes up
 
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So this is hard to explain but I'm spiralling a little over the past few weeks. I've had to isolate because of this stupid virus so I'm stuck in the house with no one to talk to other than my husband. He's amazing don't get me wrong but I always joke how I hate people but I'm missing my work mates. I'm very lucky to be part of a good team that lifts my mood a lot but being away from that is hard

Onto the main point. Whenever I shut my eyes or drift off into daydream, there seems to be a figure I can't shake. I don't see them in front of me in real life but in my head. It's like a tall slim girl with a blindfold like a bandage that's dirty and the same kind of thing around her mouth and almost binding around the chest and private area. Like this figure is stalking my psyche. Does anyone else get this or am I truly going mad?
i honestly don't think it's you being crazy and what not. i sort of think such things MAY have some sort of symbolism or meaning, and don't just happen for no reason at all. obviously, it's easiest to simply claim it's all in our head or us being crazy, but sometimes, it's just more than that.

i don't know you, so i can't really assume why and what this figure symbolizes to you. perhaps, thinking about it critically may help in some way.

what do you think this "figure" symbolizes? or what is the meaning that it carries? why do you think it just began to occur recently? potential trigger or something that may have happened recently? do you feel as if you resonate in some type of way with this figure? what are the emotions you feel when you're in this sleep and you encounter this figure?

asking these questions may help with finding answers. to me, i just don't believe it's simply you being crazy. such things MAY have some sort of significance and meaning.
 
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i honestly don't think it's you being crazy and what not. i sort of think such things MAY have some sort of symbolism or meaning, and don't just happen for no reason at all. obviously, it's easiest to simply claim it's all in our head or us being crazy, but sometimes, it's just more than that.

i don't know you, so i can't really assume why and what this figure symbolizes to you. perhaps, thinking about it critically may help in some way.

what do you think this "figure" symbolizes? or what is the meaning that it carries? why do you think it just began to occur recently? potential trigger or something that may have happened recently? do you feel as if you resonate in some type of way with this figure? what are the emotions you feel when you're in this sleep and you encounter this figure?

asking these questions may help with finding answers. to me, i just don't believe it's simply you being crazy. such things MAY have some sort of significance and meaning.

My main feeling is pure despair. My husband woke me up a could of weeks ago as I was choking myself in my sleep while I dreamt I was hanging. It's been since then she's been around
 
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My main feeling is pure despair. My husband woke me up a could of weeks ago as I was choking myself in my sleep while I dreamt I was hanging. It's been since then she's been around
for me, when i was alittle bit younger, i would have this figure that i called my "dark passenger", and this figure would always appear when i was at my lowest and just lacking the will to live and truly wanting to really really die. it resonated with me, it served as a resemblance to everything i felt during my episodes. it was, somehow sort of like a resemblance of me? i'd wake up to being sweaty and my heart racing, feeling as if i was being pushed by this figure and falling, etc. My negative emotions, suicidal ideation, everything was built up into this figure.

how do you feel when you encounter this figure in you're sleep?

i see you've wrote pure despair. is it wild to think that this figure in a way, may be you? sort of like a dark entity that resonates with the dark feelings you feel? and this figure as a whole, is made up of all the negative emotions including the lack of hope that you feel? creeping you're psyche and just being here and there, as a reminder of the negativity and darkness in you're life? it's sort as if, you're able to resonate with this figure, if you think about it. combined with the fact that you're doing things like choking and harming yourself, it's like the figure wants to do what you think about doing; dying, hurting yourself, you're suicidal ideation as a whole, etc. has you're ideation ramped up over the last few months?

it's hard to really explain it without truly knowing the other person, cause all of this is me assuming and i'll probably sound crazy. and sorry if i'm not any help, i'm just letting you know how i feel about what you're going through from my perspective and it may or may not be helpful.
 
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@Marriedwithsuicide Hypnagogic hallucinations are imagined sensations that seem very real. They occur as a person is falling asleep and are also referred to as sleep hallucinations. A person will experience vivid hallucinations as they fall asleep, or just before falling asleep. These can be images, smells, tastes, tactile sensations, or sounds. The most common hypnagogic hallucinations are visual. They may include images of people, animals, or moving objects. Images can be quite complex and detailed, and may not make any sense.

Its not uncommon. I've had it happen for years - especially that creepy feeling of someone there like you're describing. It isn't like schizophrenic hallucinations, you're not going nuts. I've also heard a voice calling my name clearly, conversations and loud noises and when I snap my eyes open it stops and only begins again when I'm drifting off.

I have had this happen often as well, especially when I was a kid. They disappear immediately when I turn on the lights. But they seem very real.

I have recently experienced auditory hallucinations of a woman telling me to kill myself as I am falling asleep. I also do things in my sleep such as message people gibberish. It really upsets me.
My main feeling is pure despair. My husband woke me up a could of weeks ago as I was choking myself in my sleep while I dreamt I was hanging. It's been since then she's been around
Have you seen a doctor about this? I used to hit myself in my sleep as a kid and wake up with bruises and scratches. I was diagnosed with a particular sleep disorder.
for me, when i was alittle bit younger, i would have this figure that i called my "dark passenger", and this figure would always appear when i was at my lowest and just lacking the will to live and truly wanting to really really die. it resonated with me, it served as a resemblance to everything i felt during my episodes. it was, somehow sort of like a resemblance of me? i'd wake up to being sweaty and my heart racing, feeling as if i was being pushed by this figure and falling, etc. My negative emotions, suicidal ideation, everything was built up into this figure.

That's really interesting, and no you don't sound crazy at all. If you woke up with a racing heart I assume the dreams were very vivid and intense? Did you ever feel like you could see the dark passenger in real life as well?
 
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I have had this happen often as well, especially when I was a kid. They disappear immediately when I turn on the lights. But they seem very real.

I have recently experienced auditory hallucinations of a woman telling me to kill myself as I am falling asleep. I also do things in my sleep such as message people gibberish. It really upsets me.

Have you seen a doctor about this? I used to hit myself in my sleep as a kid and wake up with bruises and scratches. I was diagnosed with a particular sleep disorder.


That's really interesting, and no you don't sound crazy at all. If you woke up with a racing heart I assume the dreams were very vivid and intense? Did you ever feel like you could see the dark passenger in real life as well?
no, it was always in my dreams.

i think it was just a reflection of who i was at that POINT in time in life during my episodes. filled with darkness, negative emotions, wanting to die. i always never could, cause even though i was on the edge, i never had it in me to have enough to push myself over the edge. but this figure, essentially was a way in helping me give the push that i've wanted in dying and it never had a problem pushing me in my dreams.

sometimes, i just think of it as an "angel of darkness" (no pun intended), or something. during these episodes, it'll be this feeling, a "friend", made up of all you're emotions and how you're feeling at a time in you're life, and it acts to push you and guide you and be there as a resemblance of how you feel.

i've disconnected with it, haven't seen it in a while, primarily because i've been recovering and trying to get well, never really bothers or gets to me when i'm recovering; only when when i'm just in that really really depressed state of mind and just tired of it all.
 
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no, it was always in my dreams.

i think it was just a reflection of who i was at that POINT in time in life during my episodes. filled with darkness, negative emotions, wanting to die. i always never could, cause even though i was on the edge, i never had it in me to have enough to push myself over the edge. but this figure, essentially was a way in helping me give the push that i've wanted in dying and it never had a problem pushing me in my dreams.

sometimes, i just think of it as an "angel of darkness" (no pun intended), or something. during these episodes, it'll be this feeling, a "friend", made up of all you're emotions and how you're feeling at a time in you're life, and it acts to push you and guide you and be there as a resemblance of how you feel.

i've disconnected with it, haven't seen it in a while, primarily because i've been recovering and trying to get well, never really bothers or gets to me when i'm recovering; only when when i'm just in that really really depressed state of mind and just tired of it all.

Hmm I understand what you mean. I think these manifestations can help us understand ourselves a bit better, if we choose to see it from that perspective.
I also have these intense dreams and strange experiences when I am in a very depressed and stressed state (like now lol). The good thing is it doesn't stop me from getting a proper amount of sleep.
 
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for me, when i was alittle bit younger, i would have this figure that i called my "dark passenger", and this figure would always appear when i was at my lowest and just lacking the will to live and truly wanting to really really die. it resonated with me, it served as a resemblance to everything i felt during my episodes. it was, somehow sort of like a resemblance of me? i'd wake up to being sweaty and my heart racing, feeling as if i was being pushed by this figure and falling, etc. My negative emotions, suicidal ideation, everything was built up into this figure.

how do you feel when you encounter this figure in you're sleep?

i see you've wrote pure despair. is it wild to think that this figure in a way, may be you? sort of like a dark entity that resonates with the dark feelings you feel? and this figure as a whole, is made up of all the negative emotions including the lack of hope that you feel? creeping you're psyche and just being here and there, as a reminder of the negativity and darkness in you're life? it's sort as if, you're able to resonate with this figure, if you think about it. combined with the fact that you're doing things like choking and harming yourself, it's like the figure wants to do what you think about doing; dying, hurting yourself, you're suicidal ideation as a whole, etc. has you're ideation ramped up over the last few months?

it's hard to really explain it without truly knowing the other person, cause all of this is me assuming and i'll probably sound crazy. and sorry if i'm not any help, i'm just letting you know how i feel about what you're going through from my perspective and it may or may not be helpful.

No it's fine. I just don't know and it's terrifying to think about too much. The problem is I feel if I'm too honest with drs etc that they'll put me back on medication or lock me up.
 
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If you tell your psychiatrist about it, they will definitely lock you up. It does sound crazy to normal people (not saying I'm 100 % normal, but the way you write does seem kinda "off" to me)

Don't tell anyone about it
 
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No it's fine. I just don't know and it's terrifying to think about too much. The problem is I feel if I'm too honest with drs etc that they'll put me back on medication or lock me up.
you can be open with talking about it, as long as you're careful with you're words and make it absolutely clear that you aren't a danger to yourself or anyone around you. usually they'd attempt to lock you up on some sort of precautionary basis, because of what a person says that suggests there a danger to themselves or others.

however, you aren't the only person in this world, who feels such a way and we can't just be forced to hold it in; it'll only drive us insane. choosing how you phrase things and how you get you're thoughts and emotions across is key, and reassuring to people that these are simply just thoughts bothering you and nothing more and nothing that'll force you to act out or want you to be a danger to yourself wouldn't put you in a predicament, where you're locked up. you just cannot go on keeping this to yourself and unresolved as a whole, it'll only further continue to eat you out.

even if you don't reach out to people IRL, this forum's still a starting point and it takes strength and courage to speak up about such things that you say even terrify you to think about. that's amazing in itself, and i hope speaking on the forum serves as a stepping stone, allowing you to be more comfortable in talking about this matter.
 
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you can be open with talking about it, as long as you're careful with you're words and make it absolutely clear that you aren't a danger to yourself or anyone around you. usually they'd attempt to lock you up on some sort of precautionary basis, because of what a person says that suggests there a danger to themselves or others.

however, you aren't the only person in this world, who feels such a way and we can't just be forced to hold it in; it'll only drive us insane. choosing how you phrase things and how you get you're thoughts and emotions across is key, and reassuring to people that these are simply just thoughts bothering you and nothing more and nothing that'll force you to act out or want you to be a danger to yourself wouldn't put you in a predicament, where you're locked up. you just cannot go on keeping this to yourself and unresolved as a whole, it'll only further continue to eat you out.

even if you don't reach out to people IRL, this forum's still a starting point and it takes strength and courage to speak up about such things that you say even terrify you to think about. that's amazing in itself, and i hope speaking on the forum serves as a stepping stone, allowing you to be more comfortable in talking about this matter.

Thank you. The problem is I don't know how to word it in a way that doesn't seem mad. It's already been pointed out I seem a bit off so how can I change that?
 
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I don't think you sound mad at all, specifically because you mentioned that this is something you see in your sleep or when you're in a daze. A lot of strange phenomena can happen during sleep and the transition periods before and after. Just emphasise that this is may just be a manifestation of how you're feeling and nothing more.

I have had pretty strange things happen during sleep and was never locked up or put on medication as a result. I do encourage you to open up about this when you feel more confident to do so, as it can be a gateway to understanding more about yourself and how you feel about certain things in your life (for example).

All the best :hug:
 
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Thank you. The problem is I don't know how to word it in a way that doesn't seem mad. It's already been pointed out I seem a bit off so how can I change that?
i think what the other user meant was, when we say such things like this to other people, another persons first thought is gonna be, well something HAS TO BE WRONG WITH THEM, right? that's what we assume, and this sort of judgement is what stops us from reaching out and even talking to people as a whole; fearing we wouldn't be understood and further invalidated, so why even try?

for me, and just cause i've volunteered for crisis programs, i didn't see anything that makes you seem crazy at all, nor alarming. the only thing that i would be concerned about, if i heard this from someone else, was how you talked about choking yourself in you're sleep, etc. it becomes clear that there are thoughts of self-harm and it would then be a concern for you're well-being and health to PREVENT you from this potential self-harm.

however, if you were to REASSURE that you don't have the intention to actually act on these thoughts and feelings and that there simply emotions and feelings that you're currently fighting, that's enough to stop you from being seen as "crazy" and thus, not a danger to yourself and others. Reassurance is key. They need to know that it's simply just thoughts and emotions and you have absolutely no intention on actually wanting to do these things. to me, from reading you're post, i don't truly believe you have the desire to hurt yourself like it may seem you do with these dreams, this figure, etc. it's deeper rooted unresolved feelings and emotions, it's complex and isn't just about you hurting yourself.

an example i could give is individuals on the forum in the past who have had violent ideations on wanting to hurt others and themselves. individuals talked about having thoughts about hurting others, but never at all had the INTENTION on actually carrying out these thoughts. but when you tell another person, "hey i'm having thoughts of hurting myself and other people", the first thing a person is gonna assume is that you're insane, and to prevent anything from happening, you're gonna have to be locked up. however, there intention isn't to hurt others, it's just the thoughts and dreams they have, because of underlying influences; ex, some took medication that influenced violent ideations and through talking about it, resolved these ideations by addressing the issue of certain meds. But they began the conversation, REASSURING THAT THEY WOULDN'T ACT ON THESE THOUGHTS.

obviously these are two completely different situations and circumstances for two different people. however, they both involve reassurance and intent. i'd suggest you start off by stating you aren't a harm and danger to yourself and others and reassure that these are simply thoughts and nothing more, it gives reassurance that you know right from wrong, aren't experiencing delusions that impair you're irl behavior, etc.

to help with this, i'd ask you to put yourself in the shoes of someone else, a listener. if you were listening to yourself as someone else talking about you're problems, how would you react? how would you feel? this allows you to change how you'd say things and make them more worded, phrased, more appropriate, based on you're own reaction to it; allowing you to make a LESS ALARMING response.

reassurance. assuring there's ZERO intent behind you're thoughts and feelings that would harm you. and then, letting how you feel out. STATING reassurance and intent earlier on, before you dive into venting about you're thoughts goes A LONG WAY and makes you seem less of a danger to yourself or "crazy". after all, there you're thoughts and they shouldn't be caged and trapped inside of you.
 
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i think what the other user meant was, when we say such things like this to other people, another persons first thought is gonna be, well something HAS TO BE WRONG WITH THEM, right? that's what we assume, and this sort of judgement is what stops us from reaching out and even talking to people as a whole; fearing we wouldn't be understood and further invalidated, so why even try?

for me, and just cause i've volunteered for crisis programs, i didn't see anything that makes you seem crazy at all, nor alarming. the only thing that i would be concerned about, if i heard this from someone else, was how you talked about choking yourself in you're sleep, etc. it becomes clear that there are thoughts of self-harm and it would then be a concern for you're well-being and health to PREVENT you from this potential self-harm.

however, if you were to REASSURE that you don't have the intention to actually act on these thoughts and feelings and that there simply emotions and feelings that you're currently fighting, that's enough to stop you from being seen as "crazy" and thus, not a danger to yourself and others. Reassurance is key. They need to know that it's simply just thoughts and emotions and you have absolutely no intention on actually wanting to do these things. to me, from reading you're post, i don't truly believe you have the desire to hurt yourself like it may seem you do with these dreams, this figure, etc. it's deeper rooted unresolved feelings and emotions, it's complex and isn't just about you hurting yourself.

an example i could give is individuals on the forum in the past who have had violent ideations on wanting to hurt others and themselves. individuals talked about having thoughts about hurting others, but never at all had the INTENTION on actually carrying out these thoughts. but when you tell another person, "hey i'm having thoughts of hurting myself and other people", the first thing a person is gonna assume is that you're insane, and to prevent anything from happening, you're gonna have to be locked up. however, there intention isn't to hurt others, it's just the thoughts and dreams they have, because of underlying influences; ex, some took medication that influenced violent ideations and through talking about it, resolved these ideations by addressing the issue of certain meds. But they began the conversation, REASSURING THAT THEY WOULDN'T ACT ON THESE THOUGHTS.

obviously these are two completely different situations and circumstances for two different people. however, they both involve reassurance and intent. i'd suggest you start off by stating you aren't a harm and danger to yourself and others and reassure that these are simply thoughts and nothing more, it gives reassurance that you know right from wrong, aren't experiencing delusions that impair you're irl behavior, etc.

to help with this, i'd ask you to put yourself in the shoes of someone else, a listener. if you were listening to yourself as someone else talking about you're problems, how would you react? how would you feel? this allows you to change how you'd say things and make them more worded, phrased, more appropriate, based on you're own reaction to it; allowing you to make a LESS ALARMING response.

reassurance. assuring there's ZERO intent behind you're thoughts and feelings that would harm you. and then, letting how you feel out. STATING reassurance and intent earlier on, before you dive into venting about you're thoughts goes A LONG WAY and makes you seem less of a danger to yourself or "crazy". after all, there you're thoughts and they shouldn't be caged and trapped inside of you.

Thank you. The problem is the more it goes on the more I do want to take it that step further. I used to self harm a lot and it's taking everything in me to not go back. It's bad times like this that spiral and I want to make plans. Sorry I'm not trying to be difficult but I'm starting to get that completely lost feeling again
 
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@Marriedwithsuicide, I would feel very fortunate to have a recurrent visitor like that. I would consider her a part of myself expressing things I have trouble expressing in my waking life, and I'd try talking with her from that angle. Find out what's binding her/me.

@Halo13, hypnogogia is my favourite state. Thanks for bringing it up.
 
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Thank you. The problem is the more it goes on the more I do want to take it that step further. I used to self harm a lot and it's taking everything in me to not go back. It's bad times like this that spiral and I want to make plans. Sorry I'm not trying to be difficult but I'm starting to get that completely lost feeling again
i'm sorry to hear about that.

from there, you'd have to acknowledge this. you feel like hurting yourself and these thoughts give you this intent on wanting to hurt yourself. however, actually saying it GIVES YOU this urge to want to hurt yourself can get you locked up.

to me, you can still talk to someone about it. and it goes back to phrasing how you say things. leaving out that you're wanting to hurt yourself, but that you do have these feelings and thoughts and it isn't something you'd act on. i know it sounds unethical and lying is just terrible, but to me, it isn't entirely wrong in this situation. through this, it allows you to talk to someone about these thoughts and emotions and these "bad times" that push you to make plans, allows you to let however you feel out.

through this, you're still in a sense, "free" and you won't have to deal with the fear of being locked up. but you'll have the ability to finally talk about how you feel without being seen as "crazy", etc. it'll help in giving you a way to talk about how you feel.

i honestly do this with my school counselor :/. she asks me if i intend on acting out or feel like i have the intention on wanting to hurt myself on purpose, to then implement preventative measures like calling the cops on me. however, i don't take the bait and i lie through it. but it allows me to then freely speak and talk about my suicidal ideation and depression, and how it's affecting me at school and what not, without the fear of being locked up or invalidated or seen as "crazy", because i've already got ALL OF THAT OUT THE WAY, you know? and talking about it with someone in real life, has sort of helped.

you aren't being difficult at all, don't worry about that.
 
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Maybe something similar before. I had been hospitalized for hallucinations and I kept seeing this apparition that looked as if she were drawn by a child. It had frizzy hair and a very tortured looking face. I wouldn't see her like other hallucinations but images when I closed my eyes, flashing or scenes in my head. I would similarly describe it as haunting my psyche.
I haven't seen it since though.
 
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