does anyone else hate seeing news of suicide

[depressedstupidgirl]

i always come across tiktok videos about people like Aubreigh Wyatt and other young people who committed suicide. i get so upset that they had the balls to end their pain and im older than them and STILL haven't - its just so pathetic. thousands and thousands of people younger than me have managed to end it (incouding a SIX year old named Samantha Kuberiski). i honestly deserve to be in agony because how can a 6 year old do it and i can't?? i hate myself so much

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I hate seeing news for suicide but that isn't my main reason for hating it. My main reason for hating seeing news regarding suicide is because it always comes along with a pro life sentiment such as giving hotline numbers or saying weak ass platitudes like "we're always here to help"

 

[depressedstupidgirl]

I hate seeing news for suicide but that isn't my main reason for hating it. My main reason for hating seeing news regarding suicide is because it always comes along with a pro life sentiment such as giving hotline numbers or saying weak ass platitudes like "we're always here to help"

you must be a lot less selfish than me

 

[ijustwishtodie]

you must be a lot less selfish than me

That's debatable but, who knows, perhaps I am or perhaps I am not. My sister went through excruciating, mind numbing physical pain due to having multiple sclerosis as well as extreme mental pain due to depression, loneliness and trauma caused by parents. She died a few months ago and, despite her suffering more than I have, I will always wish that it was me who died instead of her so that my suffering can end

 

[depressedstupidgirl]

That's debatable but, who knows, perhaps I am or perhaps I am not. My sister went through excruciating, mind numbing physical pain due to having multiple sclerosis as well as extreme mental pain due to depression, loneliness and trauma caused by parents. She died a few months ago and, despite her suffering more than I have, I will always wish that it was me who died instead of her so that my suffering can end

what's stopping you from leaving just fear of the pain and lack of a good method?

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

I don't. I feel happy for them that they managed to make it out. I do, however, agree with ijustwishtodie that the only lamentable part of hearing about suicides in the news is the suicide prevention bullshit. That shit makes me angry. But the rest, it's a positive in my eyes; a person is now free from their troubles and out of this Sisyphean hellhole. Sure, I haven't joined them yet, but it'll happen when it happens.

I used to be upset, until I realized just how powerful a foe SI can be for some people. There's a lot of people who just can't CTB, or simply need the right method in order to pull it off. I often hear from people online (and my close friend IRL) that the only reason they're alive is the survival instinct. So it's a reasonable explanation for one's continued existence (or at least until the right method falls into one's lap).

Everyone is different, and in this regard (CTB), it's unreasonable to compare yourself to others and then get upset when things don't match, imo. Sure, you likely share the same number of fingers on your hand as them, but are your circumstances the same? Is your nature/character the same? Is your mental state the same? Your past experiences the same? Your method the same? I'm not one to tell people not to hate themselves, because I am not them and I have no clue what it's like to be them. But from an outsider perspective, I think this is one of the more unwarranted reasons to hate oneself. But I don't know you or your situation, so maybe it is warranted on some level. I don't know.

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

i always come across tiktok videos about people like Aubreigh Wyatt and other young people who committed suicide. i get so upset that they had the balls to end their pain and im older than them and STILL haven't - its just so pathetic. thousands and thousands of people younger than me have managed to end it (incouding a SIX year old named Samantha Kuberiski). i honestly deserve to be in agony because how can a 6 year old do it and i can't?? i hate myself so much

Maybe you're assuming bravery in place of impulsivity. Suicide under the age of 15 is somewhat of an anomaly and it's own area of study. In Wayatt's case, I don't envy anyone that feels like they would otherwise like to live if it weren't for other people intentionally making their life hell. I feel like her family failed her in some way.

Samantha Kuberiski is even more of an enigma. A 6 year old has limited capacity to understand the consequences of suicide. Maybe more was going on at home than reported? There are people that report being suicidal at around that age and going forward, I don't know why that is though.

 

[Thisisnotaname]

I don't know why a 6 yrs old girl commit suicide but I know why I'll ctb.
When I see suicide news, first, I ask why ? Why now ? Why here ? Why this method ?

And bc of "normies" thinking, maybe he/she's feel guilty about anything?
My grandma said to me after another attemp " ppl commit suicide bc they are cowards"

That make me laught... That same grandma tell me about gays ppl and I knew she was wrong...


Préjugés !

 

[depressedstupidgirl]

Maybe you're assuming bravery in place of impulsivity. Suicide under the age of 15 is somewhat of an anomaly and it's own area of study. In Wayatt's case, I don't envy anyone that feels like they would otherwise like to live if it weren't for other people intentionally making their life hell. I feel like her family failed her in some way.

Samantha Kuberiski is even more of an enigma. A 6 year old has limited capacity to understand the consequences of suicide. Maybe more was going on at home than reported? There are people that report being suicidal at around that age and going forward, I don't know why that is though.

in this case there's no real difference in bravery and impulsivity. i've been depressed and yet fully knowledgeable on how to hang myself since i was very young i was just too much of a pussy:/

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Paradoxically, positive thinking could be helpful in this case. If so many people are sucessfull in killing themselves it should be no problem for me too. In my opinion news of suicide are encouraging and I believe they motivate many imitators. That is probably the reason, why the medial reporting is like it is, full of pro life sentiments.

 

[depressedstupidgirl]

I don't know why a 6 yrs old girl commit suicide but I know why I'll ctb.
When I see suicide news, first, I ask why ? Why now ? Why here ? Why this method ?

And bc of "normies" thinking, maybe he/she's feel guilty about anything?
My grandma said to me after another attemp " ppl commit suicide bc they are cowards"

That make me laught... That same grandma tell me about gays ppl and I knew she was wrong...


Préjugés !

suicide is the complete opposite of cowardly most people wouldn't be able to do it no matter how horrible their life got

Paradoxically, positive thinking could be helpful in this case. If so many people are sucessfull in killing themselves it should be no problem for me too. In my opinion news of suicide are encouraging and I believe they motivate many imitators. That is probably the reason, why the medial reporting is like it is, full of pro life sentiments.

i know that so many people are successful and it should be easy for me too but it ISNT that's the problem :( i've put things around my neck on multiple occasions and i just couldn't even though my life is objectively horrible

 

[Reflection]

While I think it's sad I honestly don't feel anything anymore about it, and being desensitized to this kind of stuff makes me think I'm losing touch with a human side of mine.

 

[Thisisnotaname]

Don't have to quote you it's your thread.
"Cowards" wasn't my throughts. I'm not a coward.
I talked about old throughts ( mid 70's)

 

[depressedstupidgirl]

Don't have to quote you it's your thread.
"Cowards" wasn't my throughts. I'm not a coward.
I talked about old throughts ( mid 70's)

huh?

 

[Thisisnotaname]

huh?

Talked about what my grandma told me when I attempted. That's not my throughts. I had to lie about everything since my 6 yrs old, I know I'm strong but now it's the time to see if another World exist

 

[ctb2soble]

I hate seeing news for suicide but that isn't my main reason for hating it. My main reason for hating seeing news regarding suicide is because it always comes along with a pro life sentiment such as giving hotline numbers or saying weak ass platitudes like "we're always here to help"

This. The useless helpline numbers and people who claim they want to help, but will be the first ones to use your mental health against you. No thanks.

Also I am jealous of people who get to leave this world on their own terms.

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

Don't have to quote you it's your thread.
"Cowards" wasn't my throughts. I'm not a coward.
I talked about old throughts ( mid 70's)

Are you saying old thoughts from the mid 1970's or that you're in your mid 70's?

 

[Thisisnotaname]

Are you saying old thoughts from the mid 1970's or that you're in your mid 70's?

Not mines

 

[ihateearth]

Maybe you're assuming bravery in place of impulsivity. Suicide under the age of 15 is somewhat of an anomaly and it's own area of study. In Wayatt's case, I don't envy anyone that feels like they would otherwise like to live if it weren't for other people intentionally making their life hell. I feel like her family failed her in some way.

Samantha Kuberiski is even more of an enigma. A 6 year old has limited capacity to understand the consequences of suicide. Maybe more was going on at home than reported? There are people that report being suicidal at around that age and going forward, I don't know why that is though.

They have a dysfunctional family are being abused or have been horribly abused. Kids can get really depressed even if they don't have a fully developed brain. Bullying can also make some depressed and want to kill themselves

In a way maybe they needed to leave young if it's so bad they wanted to go before growing up.

 

[Promised Heaven]

I hate seeing the news when the suicide happens due to something preventable (Bullying, abuse, etc.) and it's a minor. Because while I believe adults have the choice to CTB, children, while they can CTB, deserve to live their years harm free and away from reasons to. In public school, a child cannot escape a bully, there is a legal definition of bullying (daily, a kid cannot physically escape, and has caused emotional damage over a specific period of time) and often they don't qualify, but it still drives them to suicide. That is what I hate, and those are the most common stories shared.

And in the end of every single story they slap the suicide prevention hotline, you know, as if we're suddenly going to go "Oh, there's hope! I can finally be okay again!" then have a one way police escort to the ER when you decide to take care of yourself. Bullying caused the suicide, not the lack of a hotline.

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

In a way maybe they needed to leave young if it's so bad they wanted to go before growing up.

Yeah very sad but from their perspective escape to freedom.

 

[LunarLight]

Well, I don't hate seeing news of suicide. I'm quite indifferent to it. M

 

[Tac0Johnz]

Yeah especially when it's about them successfully ctb by belt when I tried multiple times and could never get it right, kind of liked a messed up jealousy.

 

[depressedstupidgirl]

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They have a dysfunctional family are being abused or have been horribly abused. Kids can get really depressed even if they don't have a fully developed brain. Bullying can also make some depressed and want to kill themselves

In a way maybe they needed to leave young if it's so bad they wanted to go before growing up.

i know i got to that point as young as 8… i just was and always will be a massive coward

 

[Rev346]

More than suicides, any deaths. Why couldn't it be me? Why am I stuck living when the guy who loves his life gets killed in a random hit and run? Anger, disappointment, envy.

 

[depressedstupidgirl]

More than suicides, any deaths. Why couldn't it be me? Why am I stuck living when the guy who loves his life gets killed in a random hit and run? Anger, disappointment, envy.

im most jealous of people that slowly and somewhat peacefully die of cancer surrounded by loved ones.. id do anything to give my life to some cancer kid who actually wants to live

 

[Just_Another_Person]

A kid taking their own life isn't "having balls", it means to be drowned in despair.

I agree with mostly of what HereTomorrow said, bullying caused it and maybe her mother should have been more aware of what was happening to her daughter.

 

[MyTimeIsUp]

My reaction is, "they're no longer suffering. They are at peace now". Someone died yesterday from jumping and it took them over an hour to die (not far from where I live).

Not the first jumper at that spot.

I hope they didn't feel a thing, but you never know - no one does.

 

[Forever Sleep]

There are definitely certain themes that annoy me. Usually stuff like- 'They were so phenomenally talented. They had such a bright future ahead of them.' Even if that's true. Even if they had extraordinary gifts- they were unhappy enough to kill themselves! What makes you think they would have grown up to be happy?

They may have been gifted- sure. They may have even had career success. Doesn't mean that would have made them happy. Or- whatever was bothering them could well have bothered them the rest of their lives. They could have utterly failed to realise their amazing potential which would just have been another thing to upset them! Why assume they would have lived a great life if they hadn't done this? Plus, if they were that special, that phenomenally talented- why weren't they already phenomenally successful?

I just think they say all that stuff to try and amplify how tragic it is. I'm not denying it is tragic but, it's more that- this (often young) life was taken from us before they'd really begun to live. But I'd disagree- that young life was so desperately unhappy with their reality. They couldn't see a future in which they'd be happy so, they took the decision to end their suffering now.

If they properly addressed why people feel like this, maybe they could do something about it. Rather than see it as something that happens to people- like an illness- accept that it's something that person chose willingly to do. Then, ask why and don't just assume they were crazy! They likely had reasons they didn't want to live anymore.

Related to that is always blaming it on mental illness. Plus, the associated idea that the person simply wasn't in their right mind. Was acting impulsively, couldn't properly rationalise.

I'd hope this forum suggests otherwise. It's full of members assessing their situations, assessing how they have tried to, or might fix their problems. Assessing whether those solutions are adequate enough for their own standards. If that isn't rationally assessing a situation, I don't know what is! Regardless of whether they are struggling with mental illness.

Besides- if their doctors/ therapists aren't able to 'fix' their mental illness then- it's an incurable problem- surely? Perhaps the majority of people would accept incurable physical illness as cause enough for assisted suicide. Why not treatment resistant mental illness? I'd also argue against someone even having to try every experimental treatment under the sun before people accept their situation is dire enough but, that's another thing.

The last one is the whole: 'It came as a complete shock to everyone. There were no warning signs... I mean yeah, they'd been suffering from depression for years and ideation for just as long.' Seriously? There were really no warning signs? You just thought they were joking or exaggerating maybe? Not to say everyone gives off signs but, plenty do. Plenty are actually begging for help.

The presence of helplines don't bother me so much to be honest. Maybe they would help some people. I'd assume that someone calling a helpline would actually want help/ want to be prevented from suicide. It's not like we have to call them. I guess I wish they were better though. I've heard some pretty negative stories about them.

 

[NoPoint2Life]

Mostly, I usually feel utter fascination with any story relating to suicide. It's kind of sick. After I hear the details ( assuming they are known) there is a mix of jealousy and feeling bad for the person depending on what their story was.