IsadoraBeauxdraps

IsadoraBeauxdraps

would like to follow that butterfly
Aug 23, 2019
160
I hate when people are dogmatic, and think they can explain everything. It's a sign of immaturity.
Belief should be an act of modesty, because you only really believe in something in which you can't be sure, otherwise it's not a belief but a fact. This is the real beauty, you accept to believe even if you're unsure.
For me only consciousness of this fragility brings to the real love, because thus you don't judge others.
 
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not from here

not from here

Never was
Jul 14, 2019
35
If God did not exist people would invent him.
 
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Stan

Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
2,589
Religious folk and flat earthers. Exactly the same for me
 
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Nem

Nem

Drs suck mega ass!
Sep 3, 2018
1,489
Jesus's balls in God's mouth this sucks!

Peace/hugs
 
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CursedAccount1234

New Member
Aug 5, 2019
4
Them: "You will burn for eternity for suicide!!"

Me:


Just like ghosts, mummies, monsters in the dark, etc. I don't need to be afraid if I don't believe it
 
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Sunset Limited

Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
1,287
Believing in god is a need caused by desperation. It is not easy to carry a conscious mortality. As you witness the death of everything, you wait for your turn. So it was inevitable to invent God. I get angry when I hear the "god" but if it helps a person endure this existence, one has to be understanding.

Translated by Holy Google
 
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ish

Experienced
Jul 20, 2019
268
I hate when people are dogmatic, and think they can explain everything. It's a sign of immaturity.
Belief should be an act of modesty, because you only really believe in something in which you can't be sure, otherwise it's not a belief but a fact. This is the real beauty, you accept to believe even if you're unsure.
For me only consciousness of this fragility brings to the real love, because thus you don't judge others.

Ligatua in heaven

Once ... a long time ago ... I had a different idea^^^ about it. I understood now.
 
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Bathsheba

Specialist
Aug 31, 2019
318
I feel part irritated.. because God/ religion is a big fantasy/ fairytale (in my opinion) and it drives people to do terrible things and be bigoted and discriminatory. But I feel part envious of people who feel that strongly that eternity in paradise awaits them..I'll never have that conviction.
 
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NotSure

NotSure

Lost in thought
Apr 17, 2019
35
I used to, but my heart has changed. I grew up catholic involuntarily, and around 12 I began to deny. I was an avid atheist and mocked anyone who believed in anything different. Around 18-19 I took shrooms for one of my first times and had an enlightening experience. I've always been one to deny a God's existence, but I found that it was because I didn't know what it was. I had only been told of one particular belief... but as we know it's not the same for everyone. I began to dwell on the ideas of different Gods, and making God what you want it to be. It could be a cat for all I care, it's just something that helps you with what we can't understand. I don't know exactly how I view God, now, apart from realizing there is something apart from myself within my conscience. So, I believe God, however you perceive it, is within my conscience. The part of me that knows when I'm wrong, even when the other part of me denies it or tries to justify it. God can be whatever you want, or need, to help you realize that we're special, or just a cog in the wheel. It's literally all about your God and your perception. You can view God as the programmer that made us a part of an elaborate game. But, either way, there has to be something that knows more than we can even comprehend, and at that point you just have to trust in it. Life is whatever you make of it, and so is God. I've just learned to accept anyone's ideas that may be contrary to mine. Because no one is right, and no one is wrong.
 
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xXSarac3nSlay3rXx

“Leaving this world is not as scary as it sounds.”
Mar 3, 2019
248
I can't stand many religious people. Christian, Muslim, Hindu: it's all more or less the same. For me Christianity is the most personal to me, as that is what I was indoctrinated with as a child. I became "saved" at the age of 8 because I was a young, impressionable child and was scared shitless with the prospect of burning in hell for all time.

This shit was shoved down my throat by my parents and the religious school I was made to attend. I think it's truly reprehensible to teach this shit to kids. It's one thing to tell kids that a higher power exist, but it's another entirely to teach kids that they'll be tortured eternally for not worshiping an almighty despot.

I honestly think the fear and repression instilled in me by religion had some start to play in the anxiety and depression I experience now. I don't entirely blame my parents for this, as this exact thing was done to them as well, so it's almost as if they don't know any better. I know my parents are ultimately good people, but they were instilled with malicious lies. That's problem with religion: it can make otherwise good people believe evil things and perform evil actions.

I ultimately believe that death is most likely oblivion: but I don't know for certain. Maybe the Christians are right. However, I refuse to believe that that kind of god is "loving." Why does all this suffering exist in the world if that is the case? Look up the riddle of Epicurus; he said it best. I found this song a couple weeks ago. It encapsulates my views perfectly:

 
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NotSure

NotSure

Lost in thought
Apr 17, 2019
35
I can't stand many religious people. Christian, Muslim, Hindu: it's all more or less the same. For me Christianity is the most personal to me, as that is what I was indoctrinated with as a child. I became "saved" at the age of 8 because I was a young, impressionable child and was scared shitless with the prospect of burning in hell for all time.

This shit was shoved down my throat by my parents and the religious school I was made to attend. I think it's truly reprehensible to teach this shit to kids. It's one thing to tell kids that a higher power exist, but it's another entirely to teach kids that they'll be tortured eternally for not worshiping an almighty despot.

I honestly think the fear and repression instilled in me by religion had some start to play in the anxiety and depression I experience now. I don't entirely blame my parents for this, as this exact thing was done to them as well, so it's almost as if they don't know any better. I know my parents are ultimately good people, but they were instilled with malicious lies. That's problem with religion: it can make otherwise good people believe evil things and perform evil actions.

I ultimately believe that death is most likely oblivion: but I don't know for certain. Maybe the Christians are right. However, I refuse to believe that that kind of god is "loving." Why does all this suffering exist in the world if that is the case? Look up the riddle of Epicurus; he said it best. I found this song a couple weeks ago. It encapsulates my views perfectly:


You have many good points. Only wanted to touch on the suffering.

I think that suffering exists because of free will. If you believe we truly have free will, which I do, then the world will never be perfect. People choose to act immorally, and it unfortunately affects others. God would have to intervene constantly to keep us running smoothly, because we're constantly straying. I don't believe in a God who interacts with our world like that, and that miracles are just that, a freak chance. I believe in a God that's within us and tries to show us a better way, which we can then follow or choose to ignore.
 
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dandan

dandan

One more attempt on life.
Feb 18, 2019
1,298
God, he never heal my depression no matter how hard I pray for it!

I get annoyed too, God was/is cool from one point of view, I did had experience with him. But I think he did not helped my medical depression.

Only dianabol and testosterone has helped, I am visiting a doctor now. That did, and God is another topic which I get annoyed when someone mentions him as a solution.


I get annoyed when they say it's all in the mind, and videos of attitude and other topics. It's not only attitude, it's a medicine issue.
 
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vonvonwantpeace

vonvonwantpeace

Specialist
Jul 26, 2019
331
How can I believe in God when there's so much suffering.
 
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Black_Knight

Member
Jul 10, 2019
79
How can I believe in God when there's so much suffering.
It actually makes it a lot easier. Of course a world run by a tyrant would have suffering. Why else would suffering exist?
 
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ProlongedSentence

Member
Mar 14, 2019
77
Sorry I get irritated when people talk about God or religion. specially now i stopped believing in God, he never heal my depression no matter how hard I pray for it!
If there is a God that punishes those who ctb - after YEARS of untreatable trauma or in terms of terminal illness unresovable severe pain - then he is one mean b*stard. Which I already believe He is. He is a selfish mean omnipressant being that created us for his own pleasure. We are his soap opera. And. IF He is perfect and perfectly in control as many profess... then he is further a mean SOB with holding the acts that would stop all the severe pain and Yes. Darkness going on in the world.

What gets me is all these people who keep saying... "Yes. God is fully in control and has a plan, and can and will end all this evil maddness when HE says the time is right" "But don't you see?" "He gave us all free will" "He doesn't want us to be robots." "What kind of life is that?"

Give me a fcking break. If He is totally in control and IF he has a "Heaven" where there is no more pain and sorrow. No more crying. Then why the HELL did he not create that Heaven for us in the FIRST place?

Yes. A loving creator has got to be a crock of sh*t. And I am saying this as one who has TRIED to keep the faith for YEARS. Through YEARS of trauma that are unimaginable to most people. If I ever DO share my trauma people either do not believe it or they simple are at a loss for words. And I fully KNOW that I am not the only one. Which leads me to believe that I am just a failure for not being able to overcome the trauma and survive. In which case I would like to say, PLEASE condemn me NOW. But of course that won't happen because "God" and His devotees want us to continue suffering.

Yes. It just makes no sense to me either.
 
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sadgirl2002

Fallen Angel
Apr 9, 2019
452
I stopped believing in God and I left religion the moment the incident happened to me in 2017. I've been rebellious and a disbeliever ever since. I don't think I believe now even though I have prayed a few times, rarely though. I don't think I can believe anymore.
 
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Beautifulletdown

Beautifulletdown

Brightburn
Jul 6, 2019
231
I can't stand many religious people. Christian, Muslim, Hindu: it's all more or less the same. For me Christianity is the most personal to me, as that is what I was indoctrinated with as a child. I became "saved" at the age of 8 because I was a young, impressionable child and was scared shitless with the prospect of burning in hell for all time.

This shit was shoved down my throat by my parents and the religious school I was made to attend. I think it's truly reprehensible to teach this shit to kids. It's one thing to tell kids that a higher power exist, but it's another entirely to teach kids that they'll be tortured eternally for not worshiping an almighty despot.

I honestly think the fear and repression instilled in me by religion had some start to play in the anxiety and depression I experience now. I don't entirely blame my parents for this, as this exact thing was done to them as well, so it's almost as if they don't know any better. I know my parents are ultimately good people, but they were instilled with malicious lies. That's problem with religion: it can make otherwise good people believe evil things and perform evil actions.

I ultimately believe that death is most likely oblivion: but I don't know for certain. Maybe the Christians are right. However, I refuse to believe that that kind of god is "loving." Why does all this suffering exist in the world if that is the case? Look up the riddle of Epicurus; he said it best. I found this song a couple weeks ago. It encapsulates my views perfectly:


Someone I use to know introduced me to this song. It's awesome.
 
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Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
2,589
Technically, are we not talking about God now? #justsaying :-)
 
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catharticEscapism

Member
Aug 31, 2019
46
My mom is a minister and she cries over my life choices to me (because she doesn't have anyone else to talk to, lol). She tells me a lot how she's afraid I'll be going to hell and I really just? Am so tired of it. I hate snapping at my mom because of it, but I wish she would just drop the topic and leave it alone.
 
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iiii5555

Student
Sep 12, 2018
121
I've had to endure a childhood of paranoia and self-repression thanks to religion. Ever since my parents imposed onto me vague, intangible religious guidelines for no good reason, my mind got all neurotic. I used to be so fearful of god's punishement back then that i departured from anything that could be seen as "sinful", ending up with a misanthropic hatred agaisn't the "impure" people, including myself. Oh, and when I discovered that blasphemies are "unforgivable", I punished myself for every little thing I did that could be seen as offensive towards god, not even being responsive anymore thanks to that. And what my parents did? They thought i had the devil in me, and went to perform a exorcism. But, the worst part is, after all that, still having to pretend religious reverence. Every time my parents talk about god, I can only think of how much I just hate religion. I despise religion so much it hurts.
 
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vonvonwantpeace

vonvonwantpeace

Specialist
Jul 26, 2019
331
If there is a God that punishes those who ctb - after YEARS of untreatable trauma or in terms of terminal illness unresovable severe pain - then he is one mean b*stard. Which I already believe He is. He is a selfish mean omnipressant being that created us for his own pleasure. We are his soap opera. And. IF He is perfect and perfectly in control as many profess... then he is further a mean SOB with holding the acts that would stop all the severe pain and Yes. Darkness going on in the world.

What gets me is all these people who keep saying... "Yes. God is fully in control and has a plan, and can and will end all this evil maddness when HE says the time is right" "But don't you see?" "He gave us all free will" "He doesn't want us to be robots." "What kind of life is that?"

Give me a fcking break. If He is totally in control and IF he has a "Heaven" where there is no more pain and sorrow. No more crying. Then why the HELL did he not create that Heaven for us in the FIRST place?

Yes. A loving creator has got to be a crock of sh*t. And I am saying this as one who has TRIED to keep the faith for YEARS. Through YEARS of trauma that are unimaginable to most people. If I ever DO share my trauma people either do not believe it or they simple are at a loss for words. And I fully KNOW that I am not the only one. Which leads me to believe that I am just a failure for not being able to overcome the trauma and survive. In which case I would like to say, PLEASE condemn me NOW. But of course that won't happen because "God" and His devotees want us to continue suffering.

Yes. It just makes no sense to me either.

If there is a God, I blaming God for what he does in my life and to my family. ,,!,,
 
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not-2-b-the-answer

Archangel
Mar 23, 2018
9,299
Sorry I get irritated when people talk about God or religion. specially now i stopped believing in God, he never heal my depression no matter how hard I pray for it!

Hells Yeah !!! :angry::angry: I used to be religious …. or more than I am now but I don't need preached AT by the jesus freaks !!!
"God Helps Those Who Help Themselves" … So I will help myself to some N. :devil:

Hi. Through the aftermath of my trauma which happened last summer, my faith collapsed. The irritation is there for a reason I would guess. Maybe its because your pain isn't being validated and people would rather tell you that God will help you rather than simply showing you empathy? I have went back and forth all my life with the concept of God. It is the first time ever however, i am truly questioning the exsistence of any kind of God. But yeah, I think irritation happens because we are no feeling understood....And each of us has to come to terms with the concept of God for ourselves. For me, it was simply that what happened to me was so tragic and painful, that I discovered I could NOT truly surrender to anything, especially not in a one-way relationship like the one people who become traditional Christians are taught to do. So yes, it can be really annoying when people push God or religieon without really taking the time to understand you, feel your pain, empathise and just simply hold space for another human being that is suffering.

I think the best healing we can find is support, love, and true listening from people who just know you have worth as a human being, not becuase you are a part of a religion or group... I think thats one of the reasons why people come here.

Huggz

So sorry for what happened to you. :hug: No amount of hug emojis will help ... but it is all I have to offer. I still pray at night. Mostly for my friends and family.
I pray for myself to die before I wake. So pissed every morning or afternoon when I wake up. :angry:
I also think the church hurts more than it helps. Trying to force their beliefs on others.
Also this "Mentality" of "Gods Will" ... If something good happens, it was god's will, if something bad happens, it was gods will.
So if someone lives or dies it is gods will. :hmph:
 
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vonvonwantpeace

vonvonwantpeace

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Jul 26, 2019
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Hells Yeah !!! :angry::angry: I used to be religious …. or more than I am now but I don't need preached AT by the jesus freaks !!!
"God Helps Those Who Help Themselves" … So I will help myself to some N. :devil:



So sorry for what happened to you. :hug: No amount of hug emojis will help ... but it is all I have to offer. I still pray at night. Mostly for my friends and family.
I pray for myself to die before I wake. So pissed every morning or afternoon when I wake up. :angry:
I also think the church hurts more than it helps. Trying to force their beliefs on others.
Also this "Mentality" of "Gods Will" ... If something good happens, it was god's will, if something bad happens, it was gods will.
So if someone lives or dies it is gods will. :hmph:
"God Helps Those Who Help Themselves" … So I will help myself to some N. LMAO
 
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ladolcemorte

Experienced
May 5, 2019
286
The whole "God has a plan for you" line always irks me
 
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BlueWidow

Visionary
Oct 6, 2019
2,179
My sister and her family were Mormons and they couldn't do anything without interjecting their religion into it. I really believe Mormonism is a cult. . . Actually probably you could say that about a lot of religious beliefs.
Anyway, they were constantly trying to recruit me into the Mormon church and trying to tell me that God would heal me and all this other BS. I was told the reason I wasn't being healed is because I wasn't a Mormon. :meh:
 
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Lethe

Fey
Sep 19, 2019
670
Believing in God is a defense mechanism that weaker-minded people use to protect themselves from the absurdity of the universe. It's a pretty effective defense mechanism for some, sure, but it's still delusional and intellectually dishonest.
 
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