vonvonwantpeace

vonvonwantpeace

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Jul 26, 2019
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Sorry I get irritated when people talk about God or religion. specially now i stopped believing in God, he never heal my depression no matter how hard I pray for it!
 
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Dawn0071111

Dawn0071111

Hungry Ghost
Dec 9, 2018
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Hi. Through the aftermath of my trauma which happened last summer, my faith collapsed. The irritation is there for a reason I would guess. Maybe its because your pain isn't being validated and people would rather tell you that God will help you rather than simply showing you empathy? I have went back and forth all my life with the concept of God. It is the first time ever however, i am truly questioning the exsistence of any kind of God. But yeah, I think irritation happens because we are no feeling understood....And each of us has to come to terms with the concept of God for ourselves. For me, it was simply that what happened to me was so tragic and painful, that I discovered I could NOT truly surrender to anything, especially not in a one-way relationship like the one people who become traditional Christians are taught to do. So yes, it can be really annoying when people push God or religieon without really taking the time to understand you, feel your pain, empathise and just simply hold space for another human being that is suffering.

I think the best healing we can find is support, love, and true listening from people who just know you have worth as a human being, not becuase you are a part of a religion or group... I think thats one of the reasons why people come here.

Huggz
 
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Mr2005

Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
3,622
It doesn't work like that and in my opinion thinking some guy in the clouds will forgive you for anything is just a way for people to rid themselves of guilt and responsibility. I believe god is love. The kingdom of heaven within and all that
 
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letmeseethedeath

letmeseethedeath

catching the bus
Aug 4, 2018
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Sorry I get irritated when people talk about God or religion. specially now i stopped believing in God, he never heal my depression no matter how hard I pray for it!
me as well shit. they have faith on fairy tales
 
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Centerism

Centerism

Love is my final option
Aug 25, 2019
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I absolutely agree with you. I find that understanding and love for my situation is critical. Of I want to ctb and end smiling with knowledge that a warm experience will free me I don't want to hear that God and his love will free me from being who I am. Furthermore I find that people who tell me they love me and it's not worth it. Or people who tell me I'm being selfish are those who fear what we can call beauty, peace and true happiness. I like tip think there's something on the other side that will produce pure joy. But again I do not know. And I feel as if I will be happy with my final decision. Thanks for your post.
 
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Misanthrope

Misanthrope

Mage
Oct 23, 2018
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Only when those people are busy trying to legislate my choices or others away based on their model of morality. Or engage in shaming behaviour towards me. Outside of that, I have a Christian friend who sometimes writes me personal prayers. Which I view as the compassionate gesture they are. But for the most part, we talk about other things. I appreciate the notion of each to their own.
 
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Futility

Futility

Student
Aug 13, 2019
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Sorry I get irritated when people talk about God or religion. specially now i stopped believing in God, he never heal my depression no matter how hard I pray for it!

Usually what really makes me angry is the constant imposing of wills on me and others, especially if they hide their beliefs behind politics and opinions and especially when camouflaged as morals, as if they can't separate church from state and believe they're one and the same.
I keep my beliefs in my own home so we can all exist together without judgement and hate, it's not that hard :/

I don't know if I'm biased because of PTSD though, I have a fair bit of JW family members and they can't have a single conversation without interjecting their beliefs, pick any topic, they'll magically turn it back onto their religion.
It's to the point where I get mad at god spelled with a capital G, I get mad at getting randomly blessed in conversation even though it's meant to be well wishes, if I hear anything about love and god in the same sentence, I immediately assume you have no idea what you're talking about, the same with pulling their favorite scriptures out from a magic hat that makes them feel relevant, yet ignoring the ones they don't like that would incriminate themselves, like professional cherry pickers.

Now I don't mind religious people who keep their beliefs at a healthy level, just for personal growth and don't force it onto others, I am totally fine with that if it works for them.

So you're definitely not alone about this, and I know MANY others feel just like you too. Lots of hugs!
 
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JoeFailure

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Apr 29, 2019
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Sorry I get irritated when people talk about God or religion. specially now i stopped believing in God, he never heal my depression no matter how hard I pray for it!

Only if it's in a destructive way, which is the way it sounds like people are talking about God with you.

I made myself crazy thinking about all of that during these few months where I've been suicidal. I decided I just can't. For my own sanity, I have to believe that if there is a God, they have made the choice to just not interfere with anything in the physical world, no matter what. Because none of this makes sense if not.

And if there isn't and there's nothing after this and there is no real "point" or things like good or evil...then that sucks. But we can't change it. My values would still be the same personally, that it is about being and doing good.

It's easier said than done but I think they key to not getting irritated by all that is to really make up your mind in what you want to believe in, and what you want your personal values to be. If there is a merciful and loving God, I can't imagine you're punished for being "wrong" about what you settle on.
 
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Beautifulletdown

Beautifulletdown

Brightburn
Jul 6, 2019
231
Every damn time. I don't believe in God anymore that some being who has the ability to heal or make things better would be okay with people suffering is hard to stomach. I use to go to church. I was very active, tithe the amount even though I didn't have it and it did me no good. My life is the worst it has ever been.
 
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puppy9

puppy9

au revoir
Jun 13, 2019
1,238
It's terrible when they take their god stuff and starts to embed it to real life. It affects how society view on certain issues. It has a lot of political leverage. Just annoying how fairytales has a lot of power on society.
 
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EmptySteph62

Student
Aug 4, 2019
169
My ex best friend is very Christian and when we were younger she had depression and anxiety as well. She was also seeing a psychiatrist and thinking of ctb ing. Then she went to a bible college and made a ton of new friends and now she believe God has cured her. I'm beyond happy for her and I wish her all the best, but she was continually telling me I just needed to love god and he would heal me. She got better while I was getting worse and now I've attempted suicide twice since she's gotten better and her "God" has never been there to save me or help in any way.
Long story short, I will never judge someone for their beliefs, including Christian's but it definitely makes me beyond angry when someone mentions god and praying for relief.
 
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Codieb1

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Jun 18, 2019
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Yes, it's really fucking annoying. Any "belief" is entirely in your head. Praying, hearing things, seeing things, "signs". They're all shit you deluded yourself into believing
 
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Beautifulletdown

Beautifulletdown

Brightburn
Jul 6, 2019
231
My ex best friend is very Christian and when we were younger she had depression and anxiety as well. She was also seeing a psychiatrist and thinking of ctb ing. Then she went to a bible college and made a ton of new friends and now she believe God has cured her. I'm beyond happy for her and I wish her all the best, but she was continually telling me I just needed to love god and he would heal me. She got better while I was getting worse and now I've attempted suicide twice since she's gotten better and her "God" has never been there to save me or help in any way.
Long story short, I will never judge someone for their beliefs, including Christian's but it definitely makes me beyond angry when someone mentions god and praying for relief.

I get what you're saying so much.
 
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Wayfaerer

Wayfaerer

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Aug 21, 2019
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Yeah, it's always annoyed me since I was able to critically think in my early adolescence. I mean, how do you believe in god?? Do you believe in the tooth fairy too? hard pass on that bullshit. I guess the people can't live without their opium even if it flies in the face of all logic and reasoning.
 
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EmptySteph62

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Aug 4, 2019
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I get what you're saying so much.
Yeah like... I never want to tell anyone not to believe in what they believe but I wish she had understood that I needed a different kind of help and I wish she could have seen how incredibly painful and invalidating it was constantly being told "God" would save me
 
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Beautifulletdown

Beautifulletdown

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Jul 6, 2019
231
Yeah like... I never want to tell anyone not to believe in what they believe but I wish she had understood that I needed a different kind of help and I wish she could have seen how incredibly painful and invalidating it was constantly being told "God" would save me

I know exactly what you mean. It's like I was speaking with a family member about how bad my depression is and they said, at least you can walk and speak. They couldn't understand how dismissive or diminishing that was to what I'm going through. This is the same thing I get over and over from this person but they understand depression. Poppycock.
 
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EmptySteph62

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Aug 4, 2019
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I know exactly what you mean. It's like I was speaking with a family member about how bad my depression is and they said, at least you can walk and speak. They couldn't understand how dismissive or diminishing that was to what I'm going through. This is the same thing I get over and over from this person but they understand depression. Poppycock.
I hate that, I used to have a friend who was always telling me how "someone has it worse than you" like... pain is relative and personal, and just because it seems like you have everything to one person in your mind it can feel like you have nothing at all... it's so hurtful and makes me even more suicidal tbh. One day people will see how bad it was I guess... then they'll maybe understand
 
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WWE_Fan

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Aug 26, 2019
2
I went to Liberty University and grew up believing in God, now I don't. But I don't get iritated by people talking about God.
 
Auden

Auden

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Aug 27, 2019
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Sorry I get irritated when people talk about God or religion. specially now i stopped believing in God, he never heal my depression no matter how hard I pray for it!
four years ago at a Christian summer camp I was showing my fresh cuts to a friend and my counsellor walked in and dragged me to the chapel and had like three people pray for me and "rid me of demons". I would have been better off if they called a hospital or my parents but they believed god was all that matters. God can stub his toe for all I care.
 
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woxihuanni

woxihuanni

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Aug 19, 2019
3,299
I'm uncomfortable whether it is about God, ayurveda or astrology. Does not happen too often, though, in my circles.

Once, though, a (probably Muslim) nurse in intensive care told me to pray, and I wanted to strangle them. You don't fucking do that on the job, you shut your trap.
 
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coma-baby

coma-baby

Misanthropic Drunken Loner
Aug 21, 2019
88
I hate when people treat religion as a band aid that will help everyone.
Some lucky few are able to use it to cope, but it just pisses me off personally.
When I went to the hospital, they asked me three times if I was religious. Every time I told them no, religion isn't a part of my life.
When I finally got my room in the behavioral care unit, the New Testament was on the desk in there.
I talked with the other patients - all of which were really invested in God (major part of life for many in the Bible Belt) - and no one else was given any sort of Bible.
Fuck that shit.
 
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woxihuanni

woxihuanni

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Aug 19, 2019
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I hate when people treat religion as a band aid that will help everyone.
Some lucky few are able to use it to cope, but it just pisses me off personally.
When I went to the hospital, they asked me three times if I was religious. Every time I told them no, religion isn't a part of my life.
When I finally got my room in the behavioral care unit, the New Testament was on the desk in there.
I talked with the other patients - all of which were really invested in God (major part of life for many in the Bible Belt) - and no one else was given any sort of Bible.
Fuck that shit.

Ahah, I remember finding a Bible in the drawer in a very nice hotel room somewhere in Europe. It's funny how it was apparently an essential item.
 
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Pistolero114

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Jun 25, 2019
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Yes. Every.damn.day.
 
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9thousand

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May 26, 2019
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Absolutely. It doesn't help that my family is deeply religious, and I live in a generally faith-based area so it can be frustrating being a closeted-atheist.
 
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Blackjack

Blackjack

I’ll be watching...
Aug 6, 2019
777
Sorry I get irritated when people talk about God or religion. specially now i stopped believing in God, he never heal my depression no matter how hard I pray for it!

It's the worst when your best friend of 38 years always talks about God & annoying platitudes related to religion. *Yawn* She's lucky I love her regardless.
 
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Darkhaven

Darkhaven

All i have left is memories
May 19, 2019
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Yeah, and i come from a family where people often say things like "I'm sure Lord Jehovah will give us strenght to endure this tribulation" when confronted with a problem.
How can people be so miserable and cowardish to hide behind a creature that we cannot even be 100% it exists?
 
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bigj75

bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
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Yeah, and i come from a family where people often say things like "I'm sure Lord Jehovah will give us strenght to endure this tribulation" when confronted with a problem.
How can people be so miserable and cowardish to hide behind a creature that we cannot even be 100% it exists?
Idk man. seems it's just a copying mechanism. I feel like it's all just survival of the fittest lIke nature. Idk if God exists but I know he isn't helping innocent children who pray to him for help so he has to either not exist, not care, or we are supposed to do the work for him.
 
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marcusuk63

marcusuk63

CTB
Mar 24, 2019
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Believing in any one of the 3000+ Gods should be classed as a mental illness .
it is fine for every religion to deny all the other gods , i just believe in one less God than them .
 
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Astral316

Astral316

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Aug 26, 2019
332
I don't mind God. I was a panentheist for a while... a fan of the Hindu perspective of Brahman. Basically if God is the first thing, then all succeeding things are made from God, then the totality of things is God.

Don't get me started on Jesus Christ, though. Don't get me started on THAT guy, whatever you do.
 
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Tabbyql

Tabbyql

Chronic people pleaser
Mar 13, 2019
282
Religion, being made to pray and attend church and Sunday school started my ocd at 5 or 6, I felt if I didn't pray something bad would happen to people I love. My "mother" only cared about religion. She as never bothered with me since my brother outed me as bisexual, it's against her religion. And the fact she told my brother she prayed to god all of her kids were never born didn't help things. So whenever I hear anything religious being discussed I switch off. I kept getting Jehovah's witnesses knocking on my door, I had to politely say my "mother" cares more about religion then me.
 
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