Asteria109

Asteria109

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Sep 14, 2019
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Im probably gonna sound lame for asking but does anyone else feel like that?

For me its a lack of experience and an all consuming mental breakdown if i even think of talking to anyone

I spend alot of time in my head going over things and i know whats wrong and why but its impossible for me to verbalize it .

The abuse while extreme is at a point where im indifferent to it , especially in the past . i feel like i dont deserve anyones time.


My suicide is something ive been planning for a little while now and ive made some preparations for it but i feel like id want someone know i exist , before the end

Thats a little counterintuitive maybe
 
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Malletboy

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Are you asking if we all have a hard time explaining our experience as depressed people? Or more so about explaining the need/want to CTB?
 
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Dearmummy

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Dec 11, 2019
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Looks like severe depression. U can prescribe some anti anxiety pills for anxiety
 
Blue Moon

Blue Moon

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Dec 11, 2019
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I spend so much time lying to myself it would be a waste of time to try to explain how I feel. And besides, anonymously on the internet is one thing but in person is less cathartic and more masochistic.
 
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I used to be like that because whenever I told others the reason for my sadness, they would tell me I'm wrong and that "it's probably something else". This has led to me doubting my own knowledge of myself.

Ever since I've stopped sharing my feelings with others, I know more or less why I'm sad.
 
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Asteria109

Asteria109

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Are you asking if we all have a hard time explaining our experience as depressed people? Or more so about explaining the need/want to CTB?
Both i suppose , but mainly the first one .
Looks like severe depression. U can prescribe some anti anxiety pills for anxiety
Thats not so much an option for me , my environment prevents it. It'd just make things worse .

My issues are tied to a dozen different things and i cant even think to work on one without a diffrent issue holding me down.

Its hard to explain but i appreciate your advise
 
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Apathy79

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I've been thinking about this for a while. This is my 2c fwiw. There are a few barriers here.

Firstly, any attempt at describing a feeling and the reasons for it always falls short of the truth. There's always more behind it. For example, the current feeling of anger I have towards someone is really just pent up anger thats been sitting there forever waiting for an outlet that this person happened to provide. I could point to him causing me to be angry, but it's not the whole truth. If I didn't have the pent up anger there waiting for an outlet, I could have responded without anger.

Secondly, severe long term depression is a concoction of so many suppressed and repressed emotions that it's reasons are largely unconscious. Not only are they more layered than the immediate causes I'm thinking of, but most of the emotions have been repressed so long that half of those layers are no longer even accessible consciously. I understand that I'm feeling a certain way, and these are the options to deal with it, but why I'm feeling that way is always at least partly a mystery.

Thirdly, while an audience such as this may still be able to comprehend to some degree what you're going through because they have similar emotions / experiences to draw on, the majority of people who have never experienced severe long term depression will never really understand. My experience in this regard comes from being on the other side of this conversation when a long term friend revealed he had attempted suicide and tried to explain why over many hours. Bear in mind this is someone I'd known and been close to my entire life. It still wasn't possible for me to comprehend or really even empathise with him, because I'd never felt depression to that extent. I find I can empathise a little with someone whose decision was triggered by severe money troubles, or health/pain/disability, or even terrible relationships / losing loved ones, because I fear those things myself, but for someone with none of those triggers talking about mental health/depression/anxiety, it was like there was an impenetrable wall between us. I couldn't understand, all I could do is love him and support his decision.

Then on top of all of that you have the fears behind telling other people, which again lead to unconscious repression of emotions and their reasons in order to reinforce why it's pointless to even try and thus avoid facing the fear. Unfortunately that fear is blocking the strong desire to tell someone, which I think is why this predicament is so common.

I doubt that's any help. They're not really solutions - more attempts to explain your predicament. Although I think you can be sure virtually everyone is in the same boat!
 
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I've tried explaining what is wrong with me, but I realized no one will ever comprehend the struggles I go through. No one will ever fully understand, because they're not me. They can sympathize and apologize you've went through that, how strong you've been, how far you've come, etc. But it always feel so empty and generic... Because in the end there's nothing they can say or do to make you feel understood. It's one the reasons why I've stopped trying to explain it.
 
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Asteria109

Asteria109

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I've been thinking about this for a while. This is my 2c fwiw. There are a few barriers here.

Firstly, any attempt at describing a feeling and the reasons for it always falls short of the truth. There's always more behind it. For example, the current feeling of anger I have towards someone is really just pent up anger thats been sitting there forever waiting for an outlet that this person happened to provide. I could point to him causing me to be angry, but it's not the whole truth. If I didn't have the pent up anger there waiting for an outlet, I could have responded without anger.

Secondly, severe long term depression is a concoction of so many suppressed and repressed emotions that it's reasons are largely unconscious. Not only are they more layered than the immediate causes I'm thinking of, but most of the emotions have been repressed so long that half of those layers are no longer even accessible consciously. I understand that I'm feeling a certain way, and these are the options to deal with it, but why I'm feeling that way is always at least partly a mystery.

Thirdly, while an audience such as this may still be able to comprehend to some degree what you're going through because they have similar emotions / experiences to draw on, the majority of people who have never experienced severe long term depression will never really understand. My experience in this regard comes from being on the other side of this conversation when a long term friend revealed he had attempted suicide and tried to explain why over many hours. Bear in mind this is someone I'd known and been close to my entire life. It still wasn't possible for me to comprehend or really even empathise with him, because I'd never felt depression to that extent. I find I can empathise a little with someone whose decision was triggered by severe money troubles, or health/pain/disability, or even terrible relationships / losing loved ones, because I fear those things myself, but for someone with none of those triggers talking about mental health/depression/anxiety, it was like there was an impenetrable wall between us. I couldn't understand, all I could do is love him and support his decision.

Then on top of all of that you have the fears behind telling other people, which again lead to unconscious repression of emotions and their reasons in order to reinforce why it's pointless to even try and thus avoid facing the fear. Unfortunately that fear is blocking the strong desire to tell someone, which I think is why this predicament is so common.

I doubt that's any help. They're not really solutions - more attempts to explain your predicament. Although I think you can be sure virtually everyone is in the same boat!

You did a great job at articulating that

Another aspect for me is me realizing how far back all this stuff goes , i feel like if i could just block of a certain period of my life and say "this is before shit went bad" or even "things werent great but in comparison to everthing else , im ok with it"

But i cant , it goes back as far as i can remember.
i dont have any memories that are "normal"
Add in my complete isolation from other people from like 8 onwards . i literally cant speak to someone even if my life depended on it .

Its nice to see im not alone in certain things
 
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TheLastSacrifice

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I have no social anxiety or issues with talking to people but I cannot articulate what is bothering me and going on. It just becomes too much and too complicated to explain so I cant really ever explain what is wrong with me.
 
ImSoTired

ImSoTired

So so tired..
Jan 3, 2020
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Im probably gonna sound lame for asking but does anyone else feel like that?

For me its a lack of experience and an all consuming mental breakdown if i even think of talking to anyone

I spend alot of time in my head going over things and i know whats wrong and why but its impossible for me to verbalize it .

The abuse while extreme is at a point where im indifferent to it , especially in the past . i feel like i dont deserve anyones time.


My suicide is something ive been planning for a little while now and ive made some preparations for it but i feel like id want someone know i exist , before the end

Thats a little counterintuitive maybe
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