Doctors/gps are useless

[Hyperbunny]

I feel like they never help you with mental health issues and even with physical health issues like chronic pain they never take it seriously
I just wish i never got sick in first place now im dependent on timeshort and sometimes unempathetic gps.
Argjh
Anyone else suffers from chronic pain here?
Do u take meds for it. Which ones? Xo

 

[Life_and_Death]

im not sure if its chronic but i know my back hurts more often then not. what i find to help best was using a vape pen with CBD juice everyday. however i cant get it locally anymore

 

[SHThrowAway213]

My experience with the NHS has been abysmal.
I was told I wasn't in the right mindset for therapy.
Told them I tried to hang myself twice (actual number around 5) and was just told to do the techniques that we talked about before. Said to them they didn't work, she turned around and said I obviously wasn't texting hard enough.
She also made me watch a Ted Talk on suicide and told me it was selfish.
On the phone call where they discharged me, they asked me did I still have a plan and I said yes, and they didn't offer me any more help.
And according to my GP, my neuropathy is caused by stress but looking up online and talking to a few members here, that is improbable but not impossible.

 

[Mm80]

They certainly dont help with mental health.
GPs dont have a clue what medicine does what. They are reading off a script and its trial and error.

 

[Hyperbunny]

I feel like gps are desensitised from feeling patients suffering at all.
As a result they have no empathy

 

[lugerepair]

I feel you. Whenever I see a doctor they seem to be in a big rush and trying to get me out the door as fast as possible. They rarely take the time to fully understand the issue, and they don't give me much time to talk, they cut me off.

 

[Desdemona]

Anything beyond a broken bone or a simple cold gets labeled as an anxiety disorder or psychosomatic. I have a few invisible disorders and my doctors could care less.

If it's not something visible, you have two options: an endless rabbit hole of testing to rule stuff out, or anti-depressants.

 

[BPD Barbie]

I feel you. Whenever I see a doctor they seem to be in a big rush and trying to get me out the door as fast as possible. They rarely take the time to fully understand the issue, and they don't give me much time to talk, they cut me off.

They have an alloted time of like 5 or 10 minutes per patient usually, that's why they rush through it. Mental health is so misunderstood by most doctors because they quite simply don't know what to do other than give medication. As for chronic pain, waiting lists for investigations are so long it's easier for them to dismiss it as muscular for example or just give some pain meds and be done.

 

[Deleted member 19654]

I went to the doctors twice to try and get help for my depression and they didn't take me seriously at all. It felt like they didn't care and wanted me out of their office as soon as possible because they needed to stick to the 5-10min slot.

 

[woxihuanni]

Not a doctor I go to as such, but my doctor sister-in-law is a piece of murderer-goading filth, so yeah.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

My experience with the NHS has been abysmal.
I was told I wasn't in the right mindset for therapy.
Told them I tried to hang myself twice (actual number around 5) and was just told to do the techniques that we talked about before. Said to them they didn't work, she turned around and said I obviously wasn't texting hard enough.
She also made me watch a Ted Talk on suicide and told me it was selfish.
On the phone call where they discharged me, they asked me did I still have a plan and I said yes, and they didn't offer me any more help.
And according to my GP, my neuropathy is caused by stress but looking up online and talking to a few members here, that is improbable but not impossible.

Hi - There are a lot of neuropathy forums online - not much in the way of cures though, but it will be good for you to look through them if you haven't already. Caused by stress? That's a new one. More like neuropathy/pain causes stress. In many cases they just don't know what causes it or how to cure it. Have you tried kratom? It helps a lot of peoples' pain, and addiction problems too, but it doesn't seem to agree with me. If u need links to kratom forums pm me. It's illegal in some places though, but it's legal in most states. Just an idea for you.

 

[Jumper Geo]

I found my doctor OK for prescribing pills I had two male doctors who owned the GP since I was a child but both retired and there are about 5 female doctors, I spoke with a French doctor and I like her so I never roasted her as she's giving me drugs, man, lol but she sent me for a blood test and checked all my hormone levels and I constantly told her my problems was because of Risperidone and she wouldn't have any of it. I said I have insomnia and she said I will give you Mirtazapine it will help you sleep but sod all about the side effects it causes, she prescribe me Viagra as well, so I never complained.

But what is the root of the problem is it lack of training or are they overstretched so don't read the facts or just don't believe them, she never believed me, if they are prescribing these drugs they should know all about them, I think Risperidone and other dangerous medication should be prescribed for 3 months then stopped to see if the patient has recovered, keep in regular contact and then if they relapse continue treatment.

Cheers

Geo

 

[SHThrowAway213]

Hi - There are a lot of neuropathy forums online - not much in the way of cures though, but it will be good for you to look through them if you haven't already. Caused by stress? That's a new one. More like neuropathy/pain causes stress. In many cases they just don't know what causes it or how to cure it. Have you tried kratom? It helps a lot of peoples' pain, and addiction problems too, but it doesn't seem to agree with me. If u need links to kratom forums pm me. It's illegal in some places though, but it's legal in most states. Just an idea for you.

Thank you for your advice, but unfortunately my parents would not let me smoke it.

I found my doctor OK for prescribing pills I had two male doctors who owned the GP since I was a child but both retired and there are about 5 female doctors, I spoke with a French doctor and I like her so I never roasted her as she's giving me drugs, man, lol but she sent me for a blood test and checked all my hormone levels and I constantly told her my problems was because of Risperidone and she wouldn't have any of it. I said I have insomnia and she said I will give you Mirtazapine it will help you sleep but sod all about the side effects it causes, she prescribe me Viagra as well, so I never complained.

But what is the root of the problem is it lack of training or are they overstretched so don't read the facts or just don't believe them, she never believed me, if they are prescribing these drugs they should know all about them, I think Risperidone and other dangerous medication should be prescribed for 3 months then stopped to see if the patient has recovered, keep in regular contact and then if they relapse continue treatment.

Cheers

Geo

I actually have a very good experience with Risperdone, it is the only medication that helps with my hallucinations.
I have to take it, I've been taking it for over a year and I took it for around 3 years with a 2 year break between this time and last time I had to take it.
I did stop taking it a few weeks ago, and my hallucinations are very severe again.

 

[BipolarGuy]

I feel like they never help you with mental health issues and even with physical health issues like chronic pain they never take it seriously
I just wish i never got sick in first place now im dependent on timeshort and sometimes unempathetic gps.
Argjh
Anyone else suffers from chronic pain here?
Do u take meds for it. Which ones? Xo

The trouble with the NHS is that it has become the UK's national religion and basically can't be criticised.

You have Labour Party members campaigning for higher pay for doctors even though they are largely paid over £100k and not directly employed by the NHS: they are largely self employed via their own limited company which in itself carries tax saving advantages.

It has also become impossible to criticise the NHS.
If you do you'll be labelled a "trouble maker" that doesn't appreciate the "free" health service.
Due to this, poor standards and fob-offs have become accepted practice.

 

[NightmareTour]

Nearly died of medical negligence, got dropped from all treatment once I was just about able to walk (aided) and received no help since. Apparently they knew that I had serious brain damage from the beginning, but I never received any help for it, nor was I even properly told about it until 10 years later. Any attempt to bring up chronic pain or symptoms was met with being treated like I was faking, or having random painkillers thrown at me. Eventually they stopped even prescribing me painkillers. It took about 8 years for them to realise that the antiepileptic meds they gave me were causing me harm and switched me to new ones. I'm currently having horrible side effects from one of them, and their advice is to "just put up with it and see if it goes away." I'm not even on my full dose yet. During my stays in hospital, nearly all of the doctors and nurses have been totally unempathetic and some even spoke to me in a way that you wouldn't even talk to a child, or any human being.

As for mental health, almost all attempts to seek help have either been brushed off or treated with more meds. When I'd tried 3 different antidepressants and none of them worked, they told me "medication just isn't right for you." I've received a total of 8 counselling sessions throughout my life (2 sets of 4) which didn't work because I wasn't even given enough time to trust the therapist. I've also had 2 sessions of CBT, which was cancelled because I refused to be spoken down to by the narccistic "therapist", who was clearly only in the job to stroke her own ego, and ignored or brushed off everything I had to say. I've been in hospital for suicide attempts 3 times, 2 of which resulted in no help and just being given a couple of phone numbers I could call (the other got me given some more meds and getting a few phone calls from the crisis team) and one of those times, I told the mental health "professional" that I fully intended to try again once I left, and she sent me home with a leaflet.

So yeah, the level of help available is honestly disgusting. People with mental health issues or chronic illnesses are completely brushed under the rug and ignored. I don't think I'll ever trust another health "professional" of any kind again.

 

[woxihuanni]

Nearly died of medical negligence, got dropped from all treatment once I was just about able to walk (aided) and received no help since. Apparently they knew that I had serious brain damage from the beginning, but I never received any help for it, nor was I even properly told about it until 10 years later. Any attempt to bring up chronic pain or symptoms was met with being treated like I was faking, or having random painkillers thrown at me. Eventually they stopped even prescribing me painkillers. It took about 8 years for them to realise that the antiepileptic meds they gave me were causing me harm and switched me to new ones. I'm currently having horrible side effects from one of them, and their advice is to "just put up with it and see if it goes away." I'm not even on my full dose yet. During my stays in hospital, nearly all of the doctors and nurses have been totally unempathetic and some even spoke to me in a way that you wouldn't even talk to a child, or any human being.

As for mental health, almost all attempts to seek help have either been brushed off or treated with more meds. When I'd tried 3 different antidepressants and none of them worked, they told me "medication just isn't right for you." I've received a total of 8 counselling sessions throughout my life (2 sets of 4) which didn't work because I wasn't even given enough time to trust the therapist. I've also had 2 sessions of CBT, which was cancelled because I refused to be spoken down to by the narccistic "therapist", who was clearly only in the job to stroke her own ego, and ignored or brushed off everything I had to say. I've been in hospital for suicide attempts 3 times, 2 of which resulted in no help and just being given a couple of phone numbers I could call (the other got me given some more meds and getting a few phone calls from the crisis team) and one of those times, I told the mental health "professional" that I fully intended to try again once I left, and she sent me home with a leaflet.

So yeah, the level of help available is honestly disgusting. People with mental health issues or chronic illnesses are completely brushed under the rug and ignored. I don't think I'll ever trust another health "professional" of any kind again.

I am sorry you've been through all this. Medicine is a gruelling field, apart from the few idealists, it attracts psycopaths and other disordered people. Average joe does not want to sew guts together for a living, after all.

Doctors need to be recorded like the police and dragged by the ear to the court for any patronising shit, let alone gross misconduct.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Thank you for your advice, but unfortunately my parents would not let me smoke it.

...

You don't smoke kratom. You swallow it.

 

[NightmareTour]

I am sorry you've been through all this. Medicine is a gruelling field, apart from the few idealists, it attracts psycopaths and other disordered people. Average joe does not want to sew guts together for a living, after all.

Doctors need to be recorded like the police and dragged by the ear to the court for any patronising shit, let alone gross misconduct.

I considered going to court over medical negligence and I think I still can, but I'd feel too guilty taking more money out of the already dying NHS. Definitely lots of sociopathic and/or narccistic people in the medical field though, they seriously need more checks before being allowed to work with patients.

 

[SHThrowAway213]

You don't smoke kratom. You swallow it.

Oh wow.
You learn something new everyday, sorry I just assumed.
It's illegal in the UK anyway.

 

[LastFlowers]

Anything beyond a broken bone or a simple cold gets labeled as an anxiety disorder or psychosomatic. I have a few invisible disorders and my doctors could care less.

If it's not something visible, you have two options: an endless rabbit hole of testing to rule stuff out, or anti-depressants.

Even visible things get dismissed and turned into "psychological issues" these days. It's like if we care more than the doctor does, then we are crazy people.

 

[peacechoice]

Yeah, anything that is not easily fixable with a shot or a short round of pills is not in their area of expertise. Doctors suck and I would never be with one or be one of those soul suckers.

 

[Red]

Docs using covid as an excuse not to do anything right now, I've been ignored by several doctors and if I had the energy I'd sue but I'm obviously too sick

 

[Disappointered]

Yes medical doctors are generally pieces of shit who use their position to feed their ego and abuse you.

 

[woxihuanni]

Yes medical doctors are generally pieces of shit who use their position to feed their ego and abuse you.

They also joke about people dying and humiliate elderly patients who are so lonely that they want to talk to them for a few minutes. They feel extremely important because of their position, which is even more dangerous when some of them know deep down they never grew up and do not deserve any respect. Like my sister who is telling my husband it is a great idea to kill me.

 

[LittleJem]

Oh wow.
You learn something new everyday, sorry I just assumed.
It's illegal in the UK anyway.

you can easily ship it in from EU countries (pre-Brexit anyway).

I tried it - it just made me sick - but no bad side effects to report. Some people find it helpful - it's good to look up what it does.
I don't thikn doctors really know what to do...it's all trial and error and they are lucky/you are lucky if you find a medication to help.
Mental illness isn't usually 'curable' - it is 'treatable' and the treatment doesn't always work.
Lots of people suicidal - they just won't let us make our own decisions.
GPs don't often know very much about psych meds - and in my experience, neither do psychiatrists. They give you pills with no information.
Better to research the info online.

 

[Chupacabra 44]

Even visible things get dismissed and turned into "psychological issues" these days. It's like if we care more than the doctor does, then we are crazy people.

Because I learned the hard way not to blindly trust any physician, I take the view that all my medical specialists are highly trained consultants. I educate myself extensively for all my physical and mental health issues. I read everything available online including Pubmed studies and drug manufacturers studies. Plus, I read endless anecdotal stories, articles and blogs. The anecdotal stories are priceless because here is where you learn what everyone else is learning from their various physicians.

I've spent thousands and thousands of hours educating myself over the past decade. Not by choice, but out of necessity learning how poor the quality of health care care is otherwise.

I visit each specialist with a plan of action in mind. I oftentimes dictate tests I want done. I request particular medications that I want to try, etc.

My view is I'm the owner of my body and I'm the coach and quarterback of my own team. I'm the customer and doctors are my service providers.

My approach led one of my psychiatrists to diagnose me with OPCD with rigidity and perfectionism. Whatever! Label me as you wish, because my approach works great compared to the level of health care I received when I was merely a sheep from the flock. I've uncovered medical conditions through tests I've requested that might not have been ever discovered otherwise.

 

[SHThrowAway213]

you can easily ship it in from EU countries (pre-Brexit anyway).

I tried it - it just made me sick - but no bad side effects to report. Some people find it helpful - it's good to look up what it does.
I don't thikn doctors really know what to do...it's all trial and error and they are lucky/you are lucky if you find a medication to help.
Mental illness isn't usually 'curable' - it is 'treatable' and the treatment doesn't always work.
Lots of people suicidal - they just won't let us make our own decisions.
GPs don't often know very much about psych meds - and in my experience, neither do psychiatrists. They give you pills with no information.
Better to research the info online.

Fair enough, I will look into it.
Luckily, medication helps my hallucinations and my irritation, unluckily, it does not help anything else.

 

[autisticalex]

My experience with the NHS has been abysmal.
I was told I wasn't in the right mindset for therapy.
Told them I tried to hang myself twice (actual number around 5) and was just told to do the techniques that we talked about before. Said to them they didn't work, she turned around and said I obviously wasn't texting hard enough.
She also made me watch a Ted Talk on suicide and told me it was selfish.
On the phone call where they discharged me, they asked me did I still have a plan and I said yes, and they didn't offer me any more help.
And according to my GP, my neuropathy is caused by stress but looking up online and talking to a few members here, that is improbable but not impossible.

So the reason they said that you weren't in the right mindset for therapy is they ask you some pretty tough questions based on childhood truama (such as rape, bullying, abandonment) among other things, if you are currently suicidal or emotionally unstable then these questions can make memories reappear that you try to repress and tip you over the edge. The only thing they can offer you is techniques such as mindfullness and medication to stablelise your mood before they can work through the therapy which involves talking about traumatic events. They aren't just fobbing you off.

 

[Pho3nix]

I have an incurable disease now thanks to the shit NHS docs who fobbed me off for months. I even sought treatment abroad and ended up with more useless docs failing me. Most of them are megalomaniacs who are not fit for purpose. Thanks to their negligence I have a life full of pain ahead of me.

 

[Brokensaddle]

My mental health team and social services didn't believe I was sing abused and for 3 they just I was nuts or lying until I proved it with recordings. I had a look at my mental health notes which they take every time and I found they had lied in their notes and defamed me multiple times. They neglected me multiple times as well by not checking up on me when I cried out for help. When I threatened to sue them they refused to speak to me, won't respond to my messages and now have given me the run around. In my suicide letters I'm going to blame them because I opened up and was vulnerable and honest with them and basically treated me like shit and never said sorry or tried to help. Around 10-12% of the funding the nhs gets goes to mental health so I know they underfunded but the people who work their can be utterly heartless. I don't understand why they get jobs in healthcare when they don't wanna help people or have good people skills. My Gp told me to speak to mental health and that they can't do anything to help. They told me to move out but the thing is I can't and I shouldn't have too, my abusers should leave my house and I should have been in powered to make them leave.