Do you wish you had never been born?

[No_more]

I'm angry with my parents for giving me life. I wasn't bothering anyone. I didn't exist. I can't believe how cruel and selfish they were to put me through the torture of being alive.

 

[Weems]

Agh, what a tease. I think "If only I did this or that differently, things would be better..." all the time and it's a torment because the clock will never run backward. But never being born is so much sweeter.

I definitely buy the Benatarian asymmetry. To never have suffered any pain! I would give up my pleasures for that in a second.

 

[sunny.sativa]

I voted no. There's been too many good times for me to not want to have experienced them.

Also, sex is great. And coffee.. and cat memes. Now that I think about it, is weed and dark chocolate peanut butter cups. Also, hugs from my brother. All that shit's too great to have never been.

 

[seekingoblivion]

I wish it so much it hurts. Why
oh why could they not have stuck with just three kids??? I hate thinking about it cause I realize just how much pain I'd be avoiding and the damn clock can't be turned back.

 

[lululoo]

I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to feel what I feel on most days. I torture that I wish to die, fail repeatedly and my body just keeps on going. I don't have control of it...

I hadn't seen you post in a while and thought maybe you were doing better and was glad for you. I'm sorry you're not.

 

[Jean Améry]

I voted no. There's been too many good times for me to not want to have experienced them.

Also, sex is great. And coffee.. and cat memes. Now that I think about it, is weed and dark chocolate peanut butter cups. Also, hugs from my brother. All that shit's too great to have never been.

If you hadn't been born you wouldn't be and you wouldn't be able to miss any of the things you mentioned. That's the whole point: no matter how great a life one has it still would have been better not to have been born because there wouldn't be a person to suffer nor to miss anything pleasurable.

As soon as you're dead nothing you ever did or experienced will matter anymore and for you it would be in effect as if nothing ever happened, good or bad. Given that is the final outcome I'd rather have skipped the whole birth/life thing since it's absolutely pointless and entails a whole lot of unnecessary suffering.

Of course death ends all that suffering aswell as the very possibility of suffering so there's at least one thing to look forward to.

If I may ask: you seem to be enjoying life so why would you need to visit this forum? This is mere curiosity on my part, not judgement.

 

[tomz323]

Yes, I don't think I would mind being born sometime in the past however, when we where hunter gathers in tune with nature.

 

[Final Escape]

I would have wanted to be born as long as we come into a society where we are all free and there are no destructive governments ruling over us, regulating our lives, controlling information and knowledge. If you are free u can make accurate decisions about your future because you are educated to be rational. Fewer people would slip through the cracks in a free society. I wish I had been aborted knowing I was coming into a slavery system.

 

[sunny.sativa]

If you hadn't been born you wouldn't be and you wouldn't be able to miss any of the things you mentioned. That's the whole point: no matter how great a life one has it still would have been better not to have been born because there wouldn't be a person to suffer nor to miss anything pleasurable.

As soon as you're dead nothing you ever did or experienced will matter anymore and for you it would be in effect as if nothing ever happened, good or bad. Given that is the final outcome I'd rather have skipped the whole birth/life thing since it's absolutely pointless and entails a whole lot of unnecessary suffering.

Of course death ends all that suffering aswell as the very possibility of suffering so there's at least one thing to look forward to.

If I may ask: you seem to be enjoying life so why would you need to visit this forum? This is mere curiosity on my part, not judgement.

I'm not a destitute fucking idiot, I know how not being born works. I guess I'll repeat myself:

I said no because I'd have rather experienced every good thing that I've experienced than have not to. Does this make sense?

You can take your keen ass sense of observation over to the FBI and start a career if you're so great at assuming the shit going on in my life and since I seem SO happy. If from my response you gathered the idea that I'm perfectly fine, I'd say you need to read more books. My opinion isn't shit, but yours pissed me off.

My participation on this forum isn't your issue anymore, go ahead and block me since my Happy Hallmark life is bothering you. Not everyone that wants to die wants to be a miserable loser until they do it.

 

[21Neberg]

I hadn't seen you post in a while and thought maybe you were doing better and was glad for you. I'm sorry you're not.

Thanks for remembering me. I got a bit less active as I was going from psychologist from psychologist, but the truth is that none of them have helped me so far.

 

[Koal]

If I hadn't have been born then I wouldn't need to kill myself

 

[Lost Soul]

I'm not a destitute fucking idiot, I know how not being born works. I guess I'll repeat myself:

I said no because I'd have rather experienced every good thing that I've experienced than have not to. Does this make sense?

You can take your keen ass sense of observation over to the FBI and start a career if you're so great at assuming the shit going on in my life and since I seem SO happy. If from my response you gathered the idea that I'm perfectly fine, I'd say you need to read more books. My opinion isn't shit, but yours pissed me off.

My participation on this forum isn't your issue anymore, go ahead and block me since my Happy Hallmark life is bothering you. Not everyone that wants to die wants to be a miserable loser until they do it.

Don't be so rude. You sound like a butthurt child.
We are here to help each other, not to spread hate and stupidity. Please behave properly.

 

[Jean Améry]

I'm not a destitute fucking idiot, I know how not being born works. I guess I'll repeat myself:

I said no because I'd have rather experienced every good thing that I've experienced than have not to. Does this make sense?

You can take your keen ass sense of observation over to the FBI and start a career if you're so great at assuming the shit going on in my life and since I seem SO happy. If from my response you gathered the idea that I'm perfectly fine, I'd say you need to read more books. My opinion isn't shit, but yours pissed me off.

My participation on this forum isn't your issue anymore, go ahead and block me since my Happy Hallmark life is bothering you. Not everyone that wants to die wants to be a miserable loser until they do it.

You gave your opinion, I gave mine. That is the purpose of this forum. The fact that you feel threatened by this is telling. One doesn't need a 'keen ass sense of observation' to realize your reaction is completely exaggerated and has nothing to do with me. No reasonable person would interpret my words as being a personal attack on you.

If the fact that I have an opinion you disagree with bugs you I don't think it's a good idea to be visiting a forum frequented by people from all walks of life and all convictions who are bound to disagree with you at some point. Unless you like arguing all the time. The fact that you launched a thread calling for action against those you think are somehow faking suicide attempts supports this thesis.

I'm not assuming anything, you on the other hand clearly did (no-where did I say I think you're fine or have no right to feel suicidal). I asked you a question out of genuine interest with the addendum it wasn't meant as judgemental yet you interpreted it contrary to my express meaning. I actually wanted to know why someone who seems to enjoy life ('seems' is an important distinction and completely negates your accusation of assumptions on my part: I never claimed any actual knowledge of you at all) can be suicidal. I clearly did not say it wasn't possible but it seems contradictory to me.

As to your suggestion to 'read more books': I've read quite a few books on the topic including psychiatric literature but nowhere did I discover the answer to that question. Could you direct me to one that does? The most common factor in all suicides is hopelesness: I wonder how this is to be reconciled with enjoyment.

If you're going to react this hostile whenever someone says something that you interpret negatively you're not going to make many friends here. Or use this site for what it was intended: civil discussion on everything related to suicide.

"My participation on this forum isn't your issue anymore, go ahead and block me since my Happy Hallmark life is bothering you."

Your respons is so absurd it's funny. I didn't realize anything you wrote here was ever my 'issue'. You seem to think others are so obsessed by your life they need to block you... The world does not revolve around you. Shocking, isn't it?

I would like to take you up on your suggestion and join the FBI but alas I don't think they allow foreigners, do they? If by any chance they would would you consider writing me a recommendation? I'd think possessing a 'keen ass sense of observation' is a good quality in that line of work.

 

[Alchemist]

I'm not a destitute fucking idiot, I know how not being born works. I guess I'll repeat myself:

I said no because I'd have rather experienced every good thing that I've experienced than have not to. Does this make sense?

You can take your keen ass sense of observation over to the FBI and start a career if you're so great at assuming the shit going on in my life and since I seem SO happy. If from my response you gathered the idea that I'm perfectly fine, I'd say you need to read more books. My opinion isn't shit, but yours pissed me off.

My participation on this forum isn't your issue anymore, go ahead and block me since my Happy Hallmark life is bothering you. Not everyone that wants to die wants to be a miserable loser until they do it.

You seem angry lately, are you alright? Want to talk about it?

 

[Pupuce]

I was an accident, and I exists solely because my mom was stupid enough to go back to my father after she left him once because he threatened to hit her. Not only do I wish to have never been born, if my family and particularly my mom wasn't stupid I shouldn't have.

 

[Kuris]

Yes, since I just never fit into the general population. Being super shy and avoiding everything that might involve other people.

 

[Kikoo Loool]

Every fucking day

 

[Xena]

My mother had a still birth the year before I was born. Sometimes, I wish that had been me.
But, I voted No. I wasn't always like this.
What I do wish: about ten years ago I was in a really bad accident. If only it had ended then.

 

[sunny.sativa]

Don't be so rude. You sound like a butthurt child.
We are here to help each other, not to spread hate and stupidity. Please behave properly.

Okay, mom.

You seem angry lately, are you alright? Want to talk about it?

Just woke up mad. I felt bad like I wanna make an apologetic thread but that's a waste of space. Wish everyone knew it wasn't them, personally.

 

[JadedGray]

I was an accident, and I exists solely because my mom was stupid enough to go back to my father after she left him once because he threatened to hit her. Not only do I wish to have never been born, if my family and particularly my mom wasn't stupid I shouldn't have.

I know how you feel. I wish my mother had aborted me once my father was violent with her, but instead she went back to him and gave birth to me. I was doomed the moment my father strangled my mother while she was pregnant with me (although I was already doomed because of my genes). Ironically, she ended up being more abusive to me than him.

My mother had a still birth the year before I was born. Sometimes, I wish that had been me.
But, I voted No. I wasn't always like this.
What I do wish: about ten years ago I was in a really bad accident. If only it had ended then.

The same for me, except it was an abortion 2 years before I was born. After finding that out, I feel that I was never meant to be here (I always felt that way, but after finding this out, it made sense why I felt this way).

 

[Xena]

I know how you feel. I wish my mother had aborted me once my father was violent with her, but instead she went back to him and gave birth to me. I was doomed the moment my dad strangled my mother while she was pregnant with me. Ironically, she ended up being more abusive to me than him.

The same for me, except it was an abortion 2 years before I was born. After finding that out, I feel that I was never meant to be here.

Thanks for understanding :/

 

[JadedGray]

Thanks for understanding :/

It's nice to find someone you can relate to, although it's too bad it's on bad terms. :(

 

[Jolene40]

If I had known what lay in store for me I would wish never to have been born. All happy memories are completely superseded now by endless suffering and emotional and physical torture so to me it has all been pointless

 

[Alchemist]

Okay, mom.

Just woke up mad. I felt bad like I wanna make an apologetic thread but that's a waste of space. Wish everyone knew it wasn't them, personally.

My PMs is always open should you feel the need to vent.

I know how you feel. I wish my mother had aborted me once my father was violent with her, but instead she went back to him and gave birth to me. I was doomed the moment my father strangled my mother while she was pregnant with me (although I was already doomed because of my genes). Ironically, she ended up being more abusive to me than him.

The same for me, except it was an abortion 2 years before I was born. After finding that out, I feel that I was never meant to be here.

I know the feeling, I'm just the result of the whim of someone too immature to take care of another being.

 

[JadedGray]

My PMs is always open should you feel the need to vent.



I know the feeling, I'm just the result of the whim of someone too immature to take care of another being.

The sad thing is both my parents were nearly 40 when they had me. My parents never grew up past their teens mentally/emotionally, like me.

 

[Alchemist]

The sad thing is both my parents were nearly 40 when they had me. My parents never grew up past their teens mentally/emotionally, like me.

Same case here, and her behaviour ruined my life more than once.

 

[JadedGray]

Same case here, and her behaviour ruined my life more than once.

Sorry to hear it. My parents are definitely part of the reason why my life has always been such a mess. They should have worked on their own problems, instead of having a child as a distraction. It's part of the reason why I can understand antinatalism.

 

[Alchemist]

Sorry to hear it. My parents are definitely part of the reason why my life has always been such a mess. They should have worked on their own problems, instead of having a child as a distraction. It's part of the reason why I can understand antinatalism.

Yeah, I'm on board with antinatalism too. I have my good share of fault too, but certainly her attitude didn't help at all.

 

[JadedGray]

Yeah, I'm on board with antinatalism too. I have my good share of fault too, but certainly her attitude didn't help at all.

I understand. After all, we were the ones who had to learn from their example. It would seem the expression "mother knows best" isn't always true.

 

[Alchemist]

I understand. After all, we were the ones who had to learn from their example. It would seem the expression "mother knows best" isn't always true.

Or more like mostly false. Guess at leas in some way they did something right.