Do you love mother nature?

[noname223]

On dating apps I have seen many women saying that they love to spend time in nature. I took a couple of walks with some women in mother nature in form of dates with them.

I can say I have no problem with taking a walk with them. Actually I really enjoy good conversations. And if they enjoy being outdoor I am very happy with that. It is a very good compromise. But sometimes I noticed I am not used walking for straight 4 hours without any break. My feet hurt.

Though, personally and this is probably autistic when I am alone I never see the benefit to spend time outdoor. I don't really have a need to spend time in nautre. I don't enjoy it when I am alone. I don't like to spend time with my family. And with my friends we are doing other shit. But I am a little bit extreme in this instance.

I spend so much time on reading articles and watching videos to gain more knowledge. I try to be efficient in doing that despite the fact it is almost the only thing I do.

And honestly I also don't see beauty in nature. Nature seems to be pretty cruel to me. Humans are no treating the ecosystem well. Humans don't treat other humans well. And they hurt animals.

There is very big media story in Germany. A whale stranded at Germany's baltic coast. There were frequent livestreams of so many media outlets with the newest updates. The whole thing became really absurd. It also became very politicial and leftwingers and rightwinger tried to instrumentalize the story to further their agendas. The lurkers on the coast actually hindered the help for the whale. The whole thing feels so strange to me. Humans can have empathy for one single animal if the animal has a name and if there is much media coverage. Though, in the grand scheme all the industrial mass murder of animals is ignored. It doesn't make much sense to me. The whale will die most likely in a cruel way. It cannot be helped. There was a politician comparing the whale to Jesus and hoping for a miracle on Eastern. Reading this felt surreal to me. Maybe I am too cynical but I think the attention of the media companies should search for a better topic that actually serves the public. The coverage feels like a waste of time. It only reminds me that human attention is very shortsighted.

 

[saintleftbygod]

I mean, it's cool, I guess. I like taking walks in woods and parks only alone tho If people are around it sucks, but other than that, I couldn't care less. I don't know why people wanna save it so badly. Everything has a due date to expire/die, it's only the inevitable

 

[Misery99]

I love nature and it's probably my favorite thing in the entire world. My dream life is living in a small home surrounded by lots of beautiful nature..with not many other homes around...spending time in the nature makes me feel calm and peaceful in this chaotic world. There's nothing better than that.

 

[trying ungracefully]

I love nature, going out to the forest and beach near me is one of my favorite things. You can see such nice things going out, like one time I was walking back to the car with my boyfriend and we were crossing a deer trail and we got to see a large group of deer slowly passing on the trail while we waited. It's nice seeing something like that because it isn't an everyday thing and you get to see a life other than your own, sometimes I like to imagine life from the animals point of view.

It makes me feel so calm because I am not having to worry about reality and the life around me I can just be focused on what is in front of me. There are things that I wouldn't want to miss so I want to be mindful while being out in nature because you never know what you can see. Recently I was so happy because I found real lady bugs, I haven't seen them in forever only the fake ones that are orange. If I was focused on my life and in my head I could have missed that.

Nature is cruel but I don't think there is anything in life that is just positive.

 

[Even Flow]

 

[darksouls]

agree with you,
countless animals are tortured in animal testing laboratories every day,
taxpayers finance these atrocities,
the suffering of the animals is ignored,
society is perverse scum,
anyway,
the answer to your question,
yes, I love mother nature

 

[horseshoefalls]

I like it because my suicide method exists because of it <3

 

[Hystearical]

No it is pointlessly and horrifically brutal and I don't personally see the cosmic value of it if that's the way life has to operate

 

[PanaxMan]

On dating apps I have seen many women saying that they love to spend time in nature. I took a couple of walks with some women in mother nature in form of dates with them.

I can say I have no problem with taking a walk with them. Actually I really enjoy good conversations. And if they enjoy being outdoor I am very happy with that. It is a very good compromise. But sometimes I noticed I am not used walking for straight 4 hours without any break. My feet hurt.

Though, personally and this is probably autistic when I am alone I never see the benefit to spend time outdoor. I don't really have a need to spend time in nautre. I don't enjoy it when I am alone. I don't like to spend time with my family. And with my friends we are doing other shit. But I am a little bit extreme in this instance.

I spend so much time on reading articles and watching videos to gain more knowledge. I try to be efficient in doing that despite the fact it is almost the only thing I do.

And honestly I also don't see beauty in nature. Nature seems to be pretty cruel to me. Humans are no treating the ecosystem well. Humans don't treat other humans well. And they hurt animals.

There is very big media story in Germany. A whale stranded at Germany's baltic coast. There were frequent livestreams of so many media outlets with the newest updates. The whole thing became really absurd. It also became very politicial and leftwingers and rightwinger tried to instrumentalize the story to further their agendas. The lurkers on the coast actually hindered the help for the whale. The whole thing feels so strange to me. Humans can have empathy for one single animal if the animal has a name and if there is much media coverage. Though, in the grand scheme all the industrial mass murder of animals is ignored. It doesn't make much sense to me. The whale will die most likely in a cruel way. It cannot be helped. There was a politician comparing the whale to Jesus and hoping for a miracle on Eastern. Reading this felt surreal to me. Maybe I am too cynical but I think the attention of the media companies should search for a better topic that actually serves the public. The coverage feels like a waste of time. It only reminds me that human attention is very shortsighted.

Am currently homeless and in nature. It's harsh and decently cool

 

[Pluto]

 

[noname223]

No it is pointlessly and horrifically brutal and I don't personally see the cosmic value of it if that's the way life has to operate

I can relate to this so much. It gave me a loud laugh. Because in all my conversations with women on dating apps they elaborate so thoroughly how amazing mother nature is. And all I can think about is the horror that I have seen in my life. Caused my mother nature.

 

[morina]

Omg that whale story made me so mad! The worst thing I've seen was an advertisement for a charity barbecue event (with meat, obviously!) to save the whale. Like, what the fuck? People care so much about animals, say how cruel their treatment is... as long as they are rare and special.

The most cruel thing though is the animal-industrial complex, in my opinion. Much more cruel than "natural suffering". Humans create life to imprison, torture, rape, kill and desecrate. Breeding life forms that cannot live on their own to dominate them and using their inability to live on themselves because of targeted breeding as a justification to rule over them. And over 90 % of humans see this as not wrong in any way, seemingly? Or at least not wrong enough that they could forgo the temporary pleasure of tasting meat (and other animal products)? It makes me so sick and is the #2 reason why I want to ctb. And almost nobody understands the feeling of living in this Vystopia.

But well, after that little tangent: Nature is still cruel enough. Through evolution, suffering was selected as a mechanism for survival. It makes sense, but we live in this horrific reality that nothing can be done to stop that suffering. Evolution created carnivorous beings, their goal being to feast on beings capable of suffering. But what if we just killed all carnivorous beings, stopping the course of nature? Then plant-eaters would suffer because of starvation caused by overpopulation. There is just no way to stop the suffering, even with intervention to stop nature.

Still, I think we need to separate the philosophical cruelty from the aesthetic beauty. I admire the structures nature created and love looking at flowers, animals, leaves, trees, grass, in all their pulchritude. Even natural disasters have an eerily beautiful feeling to them. This is probably what people (including me) see as nature's "beauty". Maybe even some fascination plays a role in it.

 

[noname223]

Omg that whale story made me so mad! The worst thing I've seen was an advertisement for a charity barbecue event (with meat, obviously!) to save the whale. Like, what the fuck? People care so much about animals, say how cruel their treatment is... as long as they are rare and special.

The most cruel thing though is the animal-industrial complex, in my opinion. Much more cruel than "natural suffering". Humans create life to imprison, torture, rape, kill and desecrate. Breeding life forms that cannot live on their own to dominate them and using their inability to live on themselves because of targeted breeding as a justification to rule over them. And over 90 % of humans see this as not wrong in any way, seemingly? Or at least not wrong enough that they could forgo the temporary pleasure of tasting meat (and other animal products)? It makes me so sick and is the #2 reason why I want to ctb. And almost nobody understands the feeling of living in this Vystopia.

But well, after that little tangent: Nature is still cruel enough. Through evolution, suffering was selected as a mechanism for survival. It makes sense, but we live in this horrific reality that nothing can be done to stop that suffering. Evolution created carnivorous beings, their goal being to feast on beings capable of suffering. But what if we just killed all carnivorous beings, stopping the course of nature? Then plant-eaters would suffer because of starvation caused by overpopulation. There is just no way to stop the suffering, even with intervention to stop nature.

Still, I think we need to separate the philosophical cruelty from the aesthetic beauty. I admire the structures nature created and love looking at flowers, animals, leaves, trees, grass, in all their pulchritude. Even natural disasters have an eerily beautiful feeling to them. This is probably what people (including me) see as nature's "beauty". Maybe even some fascination plays a role in it.

Are you also from Germany or is the whale story also reported in foreign countries? This would be really insane.

The media coverage is soo exaggerated and dishonest.

 

[morina]

Are you also from Germany or is the whale story also reported in foreign countries? This would be really insane.

The media coverage is soo exaggerated and dishonest.

German online friends shitposted about it. But yeah, it also reached my country (still in central europe), although be it a little less extreme, probably.

 

[FoxSauce]

I love nature execpt bees im terrified of those mf. But yes ik they are responsible for other nature's beauties.

Some bugs are gross . But nature is pretty beautiful.

 

[hurts2b]

It's nice. There's so much mutual partnership between species. There's humans, who exploit everyone. But there's birds picking bugs off hippos too. Animals help each other in observable ways. They prey on each other too, yes. But it's never more than what their urges and instincts necessitate. It's never more than need be. It's never akin to the thousands of ways in which we actively murder our planet and screw over our descendants.

In a selfish sense...I see groundhogs in the yard and I think "damn, wouldn't the world be worse without that weird little creature".

Likewise I see racoons and I really can't find anything objectionable about them. They're taking my garbage. I don't want my garbage. The mess is small. Their lives matter so much more than my shitty rented yard.

As I understand it, humans are unique in that we're capable of ethical reasoning and industrial operations. The rest of the animal Kingdom exists without these processes and are much better off for it. As far as I can tell.

Our activities and carbon emissions are killing them all. It's sad. I love the earth regardless.

 

[stopMotionSickness]

It's never more than need be. It's never akin to the thousands of ways in which we actively murder our planet and screw over our descendants.

Maybe it's a bit grim, but I do find some comfort in the fact that this isn't necessarily true. The idea that nature is in a perfect balance completely evaporates once you zoom out the time scale beyond a person's lifetime, and find a geological history cluttered with extinctions everywhere. Competition, predation, and even cannibalism has been known to cause extinctions throughout life history. The biggest difference is that the damage humans are causing is just much much faster than natural events (comparable only to the worst mass extinctions in history).
One of the craziest parallels I can think of is the Carboniferous Rainforest Collapse: when the Earth got super warm and oxygenated, and the plants that spanned the globe consumed so much carbon from the air, and buried so much of it with themselves (since nothing could break down wood yet), that they actually got rid of greenhouse gases enough to cool the planet significantly, and in doing so triggered an extinction event, plus a global decline of the rainforests they thrived in.

As I understand it, humans are unique in that we're capable of ethical reasoning and industrial operations. The rest of the animal Kingdom exists without these processes and are much better off for it. As far as I can tell.

This idea is actually the one thing that I find very interesting about the Bible. The idea goes that the Fruit of Knowledge was a metaphor for exactly this power/moral awareness of our actions, that suddenly gave us the unique responsibility to worry about our future (like by farming) and the unique ability to be virtuous or evil. Like a bird picking the parasites off a hippo isn't virtuous because it serves the bird and it does not understand the plight of the hippo, unlike if a person went out of their way to ease the suffering of a hippo by cleaning it. Likewise, a lion that maims and plays with an innocent rabbit isn't evil because it too lacks that understanding, unlike if a person were to do the same.

Though also an interesting thought is that we are starting to get more confirmation of morality in animals. Concepts of fairness and honoring the dead have been seen in cetaceans, elephants, and other primates. Though the case of primates is especially interesting because even understanding morality, we know primates have also acted with deliberate cruelty and even waged war with each other over territory. And that's not to mention the millions of years of empirial colonial struggle that ants have lived in for so long that specific subtypes in one species can grow differently to serve specific roles in their conflicts.

All to say, the natural world is astronomically deeper and more evolving than our perception of it would suggest, and for that I find it endlessly fascinating.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think nature is beautiful and miraculous in many ways but then- also cruel too. I enjoy being in nature and appreciating it but, I'm not the outdoor person I would like to think of myself as. I don't enjoy being wet, cold, sun burnt etc. It's been years now but, I used to take long walks through parks, by the river etc.

As for how we treat animals- it's true- we have horrible double standards. I suppose our own nature mirrors mother nature in that regard. We'll kill animals that invade our territory and threaten us/ do damage. We'll breed animals in order to butcher and eat/ wear them. We'll conserve animals we find cute or clever or useful. Other animal species do that too.

It's true- that we have the intellect to know better but then- I think we are governed in perhaps equal part- by our animal nature- that seeks to exploit and survive/ conquer and our intellect- that has within it morals.

As for news reports though. I suppose it's just a bit of light relief a lot of the time. After hearing about how one country has bombed another one's schools, it can be a welcome break to find out that Neil the seal has sat in front of someone's car and prevented them from getting in to work.

 

[Wojaczek]

it's the only good thing about this place

 

[idfwlnh]

I don't like nature. The randomness in nature pushes forward the evolution of life leads to humanity. That is where the beauty turns into chaos.

 

[fckthislife]

It's father nature.