Do you ever thought there is a post or thread on here which is really tasteless?

[noname223]

I considered to take the title "Which was the most tasteless post/thread on SaSu?" But I considered it too polarizing and maybe we should not call each other out.
But there comes the question. How to deal with tasteless posts or threads? (if they abide the rules and don't break rules). Tastelessness can be subjective.

I think I won't link the posts or threads.

But the one on whether you would like to go to a concentration camp if they returned stuck with me. Many members rightfully criticized the thread and creator.

There was another post which was pretty popular on here I considered it really tasteless. But I think I did not dare to speak out thus far. And I think the thread would not have been a good place to discuss it.

I won't name or link the thread. I think the case should be discussed with naming the specific posters. There was a goodbye thread. I usually don't read goodbye threads because they make me too sad. The person took SN. And updated his last seconds on earth. He said something like "Oh shit, I pooped my pants". And someone replied and quoted it. Something like: "Great last words." The reply got 30 reactions and none of them was negative. Half of them were laughing emotions. Someone else commented "thanks for sharing"

Sorry but this feels very wrong to me. I know where the people are coming from. But isn't it a little bit depraved to make such a joke considering the situation. How would his loved ones react if they knew about it. This would just confirm (their wrong) perception of this forum. I think it is wrong to make such a joke. And probably way too early (if one considers this as a factor). I think every single case causes a lot of emotional pain. Either for the ones who are going through a living hell which drives them to this decision. Or for loved ones who have to live despite that.

I think jokes about suicide are not inherently tasteless. They can help to cope. But not about a single individual that just died. It felt like making fun of him for me. Personally, I would not like it if people commented in such a way about my suicide. I wondered why noone speaked out against it. This is not usual for SaSu. This community is very lovely. This is not our standard.

 

[hikaru13]

That's so truee it seems so insensitive to be joking about that. I have not seen the thread but as what you've described it, it also made me feel disgusted by the way they've responded. I've seen other goodbye threads and the users there were really supportive and kind, not like that.

 

[EmptyBottle]

Similar thing with a goodbye thread where someone drinks a giant bottle of water with their SN, not too long after eating, and survives, ppl were sometimes distasteful, maybe coz the method was something they were closely attached to, and mods locked the thread.

The user ended up surviving and posted about it later, and that thread was ok, ppl there even mentioned that the comments in the previous thread were uncalled for. Yes, OP might have said annoyed words, but they were in the middle of an attempt, and the thread shouldn't have devolved into argument.

 

[darksouls]

agree with you
anyone who makes jokes about people who are in a bad situation should be banned
it is sad enough that so many people are so desperate
so there is no need to make fun about it

 

[bankai]

There was a thread about CTB in a nazi death camp a long time ago.that was weird to say the least..


In a more light hearted tone I saw a thread where the title was 'a reason not to ctb' and when I opened the thread the user posted that the switch 2 was releasing...

 

[psp3000]

a user wished to be disabled or in their words "like a child" (as an alternative to suicide)

it went on for so long before it was locked and it was very upsetting to many people

 

[EmptyBottle]

a user wished to be disabled or in their words "like a child" (as an alternative to suicide)

it went on for so long before it was locked and it was very upsetting to many people

mmm, it is one thing for a user to wish they were a child once more, a total other to wish for disabilities

 

[psp3000]

mmm, it is one thing for a user to wish they were a child once more, a total other to wish for disabilities

that's why it upset so many people

they commented things like that on that post (like what you said above) but OP wasn't having it or was even hearing themselves or basically refused to (they thought life would be much easier that way)

(edit: also to clarify they keep using disabled and "like a child" or "childlike" interchangably in this post)

I now wonder if the person was banned or something because when you look up their name they don't show up as a suggestion but you can still see their posts

 

[wine is fine but]

being upset by someone wanting to be disabled is like a pro-lifer being upset because someone wanted to die

 

[brokenspirited]

being upset by someone wanting to be disabled is like a pro-lifer being upset because someone wanted to die

Just no.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

being upset by someone wanting to be disabled is like a pro-lifer being upset because someone wanted to die

No.

Disability is not something you choose and neither something you should desire. No one who ever considered suicide regardless of their view would think it would be a good thing to wish for on top of the already existing problems.

Also this forum is pro-choice by the way, it's not pro-suicide in case you thought that it was pro-suicide, the point I made above still stands for both these views.

You could however make the argument that you wish mental illness was seen in the same light as disability so it can be taken more seriously but that's something else entirely.

 

[amerie]

a user wished to be disabled or in their words "like a child" (as an alternative to suicide)

it went on for so long before it was locked and it was very upsetting to many people

As someone who grew up with debilitating neurodivergence that ruined my life and will to live, people (especially aspie supremacists) who say that being severely disabled is better than the life they currently have piss me off beyond belief.

Like yes bestie!! Being trapped in your own skin and being treated like a doll and not being able to advocate for yourself and your body is absolutely wonderful!! Go ahead and disable yourself right now if you want it so bad. And the thing is they really could, if they wanted to be severely disabled they could find a way to achieve that but they don't, people seriously need to stop projecting their fantasy life onto others.

 

[wine is fine but]

Also this forum is pro-choice by the way

and yet, you do not want anyone to have the choice to wish for what they want?
that is not pro choice
that is forcing your views onto others

pro choice is allowing others to wish for and choose to do what they want with their own lives

 

[Buh-bye!]

and yet, you do not want anyone to have the choice to wish for what they want?
that is not pro choice
that is forcing your views onto others

pro choice is allowing others to wish for and choose to do what they want with their own lives

Agreed. Although not having to do anything with the posts above, i was thinking about something and would like to discuss it.
When we say pro-choice, should we not consider other factors that might have affected the person's choice? I mean that if a person of sound mind makes a decision, say about ending their life, that's pro choice since there's a person who's well aware of their situation and also of the consequences of their decisions. But someone, impulsive ( i don't know if this is the right word here ), emotionally sensitive ( Again, i don't know the right word but i mean someone who might make drastic decisions on things that cause a sudden emotional panic but eventually feel normal ) or someone with a mental health issue that affects their decision making ability, makes a decision like that, would that be considered pro choice too?
I say if we go by the literal definition, Yes!
But it isn't pro choice if they don't really know of all the options. If those people find a group of people constantly discussing suicide, wouldn't it draw them towards it more?
I am just speaking for the sake of speaking i guess. This has no relevance to the above posts but i saw you all discussing pro choice so i asked it here.
Thank you for reading this, thank you for taking the time. Do not feel forced to reply though. Night mate!

 

[wine is fine but]

Agreed. Although not having to do anything with the posts above, i was thinking about something and would like to discuss it.
When we say pro-choice, should we not consider other factors that might have affected the person's choice? I mean that if a person of sound mind makes a decision, say about ending their life, that's pro choice since there's a person who's well aware of their situation and also of the consequences of their decisions. But someone, impulsive ( i don't know if this is the right word here ), emotionally sensitive ( Again, i don't know the right word but i mean someone who might make drastic decisions on things that cause a sudden emotional panic but eventually feel normal ) or someone with a mental health issue that affects their decision making ability, makes a decision like that, would that be considered pro choice too?
I say if we go by the literal definition, Yes!
But it isn't pro choice if they don't really know of all the options. If those people find a group of people constantly discussing suicide, wouldn't it draw them towards it more?
I am just speaking for the sake of speaking i guess. This has no relevance to the above posts but i saw you all discussing pro choice so i asked it here.
Thank you for reading this, thank you for taking the time. Do not feel forced to reply though. Night mate!

what you are saying has a huge amount of validity

i did not see the original posts that are being discussed, but it seems to me that the member in question was just suggesting that being disabled to the point they did not have to effectively care or understand the world, while still living was a better situation for them than death. it seems that they were not going to act on it, and it was just a dream/option they may have chosen if they had the chance

the whole subject of acting on mental health issues, is a huge rabbit hole that for the most part, no one but the person in it can understand. mental health experts tend to only read case studies and have no idea on the real problem, because they have not gone through it, or if they have, they pretend that because they have come out the other side, everyone else will too, because they are experts and no everything about everyone. the big problem with case studies in mental health issues, is that most people will not tell their true feelings to anyone for fear of being locked up in a padded room. perhaps mental health experts will not do that, but the mind of the person suffering these issues will invariably not take the chance

you mentioned "impulsive" and to me, that word is very important to everything we ever do. whatever someone does, whether it be telling our spouse to go away, leave a job or even take our own life, it has to be done for the right reasons. nothing should ever be done on the spur of the moment. for the most part, i do not believe many mental health issues are dealt with on the spur of the moment. for many, i believe the desire to leave this planet is with us from "almost" day 1. the trigger that people act on might be spur of the moment, but the human spirit is much too strong for most people to take their own lives without a huge amount of thought. we see this type of thing when people keep talking about survival instinct. both the brain and the body (acting through the brain) are not willing to just give up and cease to exist

 

[EternalShore]

I now wonder if the person was banned or something because when you look up their name they don't show up as a suggestion but you can still see their posts

If you're referring to the same person I'm thinking of, that user is banned, yes~ They are now a member of another, albeit explicitly pro-life, sewer slide forum~ altho, you guys gossiping about that user like this makes me feel rather uncomfy and may even be considered "tasteless" about how willing you'd be to throw other users under the bus like this~ >_<

 

[Buh-bye!]

You mentioned "impulsive" and to me, that word is very important to everything we ever do. whatever someone does, whether it be telling our spouse to go away, leave a job or even take our own life, it has to be done for the right reasons. nothing should ever be done on the spur of the moment. for the most part, i do not believe many mental health issues are dealt with on the spur of the moment. for many, i believe the desire to leave this planet is with us from "almost" day 1. the trigger that people act on might be spur of the moment, but the human spirit is much too strong for most people to take their own lives without a huge amount of thought. we see this type of thing when people keep talking about survival instinct. both the brain and the body (acting through the brain) are not willing to just give up and cease to exist

That was a great explanation, i agree with this too. Thanks for replying mate!
I believe i just didn't think of that in the moment i was writing all of it. Survival instinct sure would put a stop at impulsive decisions.
Thanks for taking the time, Night mate!

 

[cemeteryismyhome]

Tastelessness abounds everywhere. People shouldn't go around carelessly or deliberately harming others, and at the same time, if someone says something hurtful, so f*ing what, just blow it off.

 

[Cauliflour]

Considering my verbal filter is out of whack, give me like 2 weeks max and one of my posts will probably end up here.

In terms of posts I've seen though, I saw a post on here on someone who thought ugly people should be kept out of the gene pool because of some anti natalism shit and all the replies were agreeing with them. (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/ugly-short-people-should-not-have-kids.203321/)

I put this on page 2:
Pretty much sums up my opinion on that thread.

 

[EmptyBottle]

Considering my verbal filter is out of whack, give me like 2 weeks max and one of my posts will probably end up here.

In terms of posts I've seen though, I saw a post on here on someone who thought ugly people should be kept out of the gene pool because of some anti natalism shit and all the replies were agreeing with them. (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/ugly-short-people-should-not-have-kids.203321/)

I put this on page 2:
Pretty much sums up my opinion on that thread.

Oof.

Also, the thread about tasteless stuff reminded to be careful with my words, rather than saying "If only I could have your hypothyroidism instead", I carefully stated a different, yet non false opinion

 

[Satori Komeiji]

There was a video of a young women drinking SN and multiple comments on this forum were speaking about how she was so pretty and how it was so sad that a beautiful young women was committing suicide. I guess for some, their first instinct when seeing somebody commit suicide is to objectify them.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

There was a video of a young women drinking SN and multiple comments on this forum were speaking about how she was so pretty and how it was so sad that a beautiful young women was committing suicide. I guess for some, their first instinct when seeing somebody commit suicide is to objectify them.

I hate that shit (I changed my reaction to Hmph! because that's what I feel about these people). "She was so pretty" , yeah, and? Do these people think that a comment like that can bring someone back or stop someone from committing? That this shallowness isn't or couldn't be one of the reasons that person chose suicide in the first place?

That's my opinion; if someone has a different point of view they can share it. You don't see people going "She was so ugly" glad she killed herself; or actually you can see that depending on where you look online or who is spouting the nonsense.

What if we actually made the world a better place where ugly, pretty, gender or genetics are a non factor when it comes to happiness? imagine that.

 

[klantedklaw]

There was a thread about CTB in a nazi death camp a long time ago.that was weird to say the least..


In a more light hearted tone I saw a thread where the title was 'a reason not to ctb' and when I opened the thread the user posted that the switch 2 was releasing...

wtf