Discussion do you consider yourself a bad person?

[coolgal82]

(i posted this originally on 4chan on /lgbt/ but thought i'd ask here too)

Just curious

personally i do. i tend to just get pissed off and hate my besties randomly over like just them talking to eachother without me or like them ignoring me or whatever? then i just go off of discord the whole day and stew in my anger cus i dont wanna confront them directly cus its scary and i'd be seen as the villain lmao. my most recent moment was different though when i yelled at them that they all hated me and left the server just cus one of them left vc early two times lmao.

also recently i basically harassed someone into blocking me on discord because i couldnt handle my emotions of missing her (we werent even that close but fuck i miss her) lmao.

and like i've looked at it objectively, i do bad stuff and recognise that its bad and yet i dont stop doing it, thus i must be objectively evil.

this is a big part of why i wanna ctb. the weird bit is also like despite this half of my brain is convinced im not bad and im a perfect angel who can do no wrong, which usually happens whenever anyone calls me out on it which i hate because theyre objectively right but the subjective part of my brain disagrees and freaks out (it also happens when i try and think that im bad sometimes? i have a lil internal civil war in my brain and it feels like its getting torn in half)

 

[-nobodyknows-]

Yeah. I don't think I'm really compatible with other people, and that I should stay away. But I can't isolate myself… it's too lonely. It's quite selfish, especially considering that I tend to just make people sad, so I don't think I'm a good person.

 

[coolgal82]

Yeah. I don't think I'm really compatible with other people, and that I should stay away. But I can't isolate myself… it's too lonely. It's quite selfish, especially considering that I tend to just make people sad, so I don't think I'm a good person.

i feel the same, i wish i had the strength to isolate myself away from people because it'd be better for them and its what i deserve. the fact i cant is also a big part of what makes me think im evil/bad/etc

 

[Lost Magic]

Define a bad person though? It seems like such a broad question to ask. We all have our own moral values, but none of us are innocent.

 

[ForeverLonely82]

Society would think so. I hate everything these days. all the "special" groups, ways of thinking, adapting of stuff that my brain screams "no". So I've become a "hermit" of sorts. I can't be part of today's world. These modern times is my own personal hell.

 

[coolgal82]

Define a bad person though? It seems like such a broad question to ask. We all have our own moral values, but none of us are innocent.

tbh i think its based on the definition of the person answering

either that or the general like perception of society where like a bad person is someone who does bad things and/or has bad motiavtions (context dependent really)

 

[Aloneandinpain]

Definitely not. A bit pathetic, sad and a failure in some ways, but a good person overall.

 

[inkthirsty]

(i posted this originally on 4chan on /lgbt/ but thought i'd ask here too)

Just curious

personally i do. i tend to just get pissed off and hate my besties randomly over like just them talking to eachother without me or like them ignoring me or whatever? then i just go off of discord the whole day and stew in my anger cus i dont wanna confront them directly cus its scary and i'd be seen as the villain lmao. my most recent moment was different though when i yelled at them that they all hated me and left the server just cus one of them left vc early two times lmao.

also recently i basically harassed someone into blocking me on discord because i couldnt handle my emotions of missing her (we werent even that close but fuck i miss her) lmao.

and like i've looked at it objectively, i do bad stuff and recognise that its bad and yet i dont stop doing it, thus i must be objectively evil.

this is a big part of why i wanna ctb. the weird bit is also like despite this half of my brain is convinced im not bad and im a perfect angel who can do no wrong, which usually happens whenever anyone calls me out on it which i hate because theyre objectively right but the subjective part of my brain disagrees and freaks out (it also happens when i try and think that im bad sometimes? i have a lil internal civil war in my brain and it feels like its getting torn in half)

i've always felt like some sort of outcast maybe it's cuz i'm autistic and i've never fit in. whether i'm a bad person or not really depends on the situation. i may lash out if someone is giving me a hard time or i may cower in fear depending on how i react to it. i can be trusted with keeping secrets but i'm too curious and i can sometimes go digging deeper than i should such as finding someone's personal social media accounts and looking at their photos

 

[ladylazarus4]

yeah but I understand that's not logical. I consider myself more revolting than evil but my brain lumps it all into "bad."

 

[Lost Magic]

tbh i think its based on the definition of the person answering

either that or the general like perception of society where like a bad person is someone who does bad things and/or has bad motiavtions (context dependent really)

Well, if you want my personal take on what bad is. I would say the rotten pigs that failed us as people and made us suicidal in the first place. Let's start there!

 

[bitofftoomuch]

No. I don't consider myself bad. I consider myself miserable. That's more a product of luck than anything.

 

[coolgal82]

No. I don't consider myself bad. I consider myself miserable. That's more a product of luck than anything.

wdym luck

 

[lavenderlilylies]

Yes

 

[whywere]

Well that would depend upon who a peson would ask about me. Some of the business folks do not like me, I am 100% honest and I firmly believe that we are ALL the same.

I do not have any personal friends so that part of the equation I cannot answer.

Walter

 

[EgoBrained]

Probably, I continue to be a burden to other people with no fault of their own. I abandoned myself but they're the ones who have to pay the price.

 

[pyx]

not sure, but whenever i try to do good i end up kidding myself, always inventing lies apropos to indifferent majorities, sometimes uncertain of whether or not people are catching on to my opportunism, that at some point i'll be running on empty, the jig is up, that bankrolling of the less fortunate is something outside of my current powers, that i don't have the energy to continue and i should just waste away as i ought to have done before

what separates truly good people from the good-will of the majority is the pursuit i.e the tangible outcomes, and not intent; treating others with obligatory politesse won't trump the virtues of donating to the poor, but all are predicated on a 'feeling' of goodness, psychological motivators for continuing to make contributions; but proles have more on their plate, confounding this imposition to act virtuously with the mode of neoliberal competition as promoted by bourgeois society, something highly antagonistic and selective, eliminates many proles from giving other than through grassroots attempts to help others in the locality of communities, which moreover seems to be something unconscious, the intent never in them to mill out incentives

selection pressures dictate to what degree judgement applies to you, and accordingly shying the threshold, either below or above, determines your altruistic output: your local valedictorian set up on white-shoe sinecures will of course be able to much more effectively make meaningful contributions in the way of donation. proles can't afford this, often falling into the trap of directing castigation to power structures which would often elicit claims of quote unquote tu quoque after falling victim to Ponzi schemes

 

[Leiot]

I don't think I'm basically a bad person, I've just done a lot of bad things mainly due to stupidity and being weak. If I was a bad person I wouldn't regret everything I do.

 

[nattys5thtoenail]

Tbh lowkey yes I try really hard to be a nice person but sometimes I can be really rude and selfish even without that being my intention. I need to be really careful with what I say and do.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I have bad and good elements- like most people I would think. I don't have much contact with anyone now but, when I did, I went through similar emotions as you OP. I wouldn't say they exactly make us bad people though- deep down. They suggest insecurity and neediness to me. That's not necessarily our fault. It suggests to me that we likely didn't get those needs met somewhere along the lines- possibly in childhood so now, we're desperately looking for that sense of family/ belonging with friends. That's not exactly unnatural or bad.

Of course, when those feelings do become too intense, we may start to act out of jealousies and possessiveness. I've said things in the past I probably regretted. Still- sometimes they lead to me being put in my place. One friend just came right out and said that her partner was now her best friend. It hurt at the time but it helped me to see that I couldn't rely on them. Better to know that really, rather than keep depending on them and getting hurt.

Now, I'm more 'bad' in the other direction. I don't keep in touch with people very much now. That's not exactly good or caring. Still, I tend to make excuses for myself- saying that one thing lead to another. I isolate in part to protect myself because it's so risky to rely on friendship and I'm quite an all or nothing person. Plus- if I do ever suicide, I feel like the distance between us would hopefully make it easier on them.

 

[cryone]

Objectively, yes. But relatively? No. Humanity is essentially shit without the handful of good people that make it decent. I am bad, but most are worse.

 

[mint]

I might be the worst kind of person. I have the capacity to make something of myself, but no desire to. I just alienate people without trying. I think they sense that something is wrong about me and look at me like I'm an apparition. Sometimes I think I'm not actually real. But mostly I think I'm just a trash person that only brings other people down.

 

[LunarLight]

Idk, it's complicated. What I know is that I used to be a terrible, terrible person, but I got better.

 

[Innereye]

I don't consider anyone good or bad people. Nonsensical concept.

 

[vampire2002]

yes. i try to be good, but often fail. i think there is something wrong with me, deep down, which makes me a bad person. i really, truly am.

 

[FuneralCry]

No, to me existence is what is bad instead, I'd never wish to suffer in this existence that is so cruel and torturous to me, I personally see existence as such a horrific, terrible tragedy that just torments existing beings and causes them to suffer. I truly was never meant to exist and I never should have suffered at all, I'd always prefer to not exist but more than anything I wish I never existed, I wish I could just erase my existence so finally I can be at peace, personally I just wish for peace from the terrible cruelty and futility of existing, existence itself really is the true problem to me.

 

[ezziiooo678]

not really, i know i can be a good person but there are definitely parts of me that are bad

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

What's a person ? I'm 30 trillion cells, & a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain. There's a thousand page book I can add to this but that alone shows what I am is an abomination. Life is an abomination.

What I am is a Brain in a box. 86 billion neurons connected in complex patterns to give the illusion of a constant self

The 'me' illusion: How your brain conjures up your sense of self

Self-awareness isn't the pinnacle of consciousness - it's just an accidental byproduct of evolution, and a figment of our minds

www.newscientist.com

 

[Just_Another_Person]

Am I a bad person? Yes. Am I an horrible one? Nope, had a trial in my life where this was put to test; I passed it.

Doing (some) "bad" things doesn't make you pure evil, the world is grey and everyone can make mistakes, what changes are the lines you cross.

 

[lalaloopsy]

i dont know. i think i've met good people, who then do bad things. but i haven't met many bad people who then do good things.

so maybe we are all in the middle? and what we choose to do is what defines it? or it isn't definable?

i know i dont want to hurt people, but then that's because it makes me feel horrible, so is that selfish?

 

[etherealspring]

i do consider myself to be a bad person bc i hate myself. y would i hate someone who's "good"?