Discussion Do you believe some people are just unfixable?

[BridgeJumper]

Do you believe some people are just unfixable?
Beyond help?
I had 48 sections, 2-3 years of therapy, traveled to 2 treatment centers, all of that has done nothing for me
NOTHING
NULL.
14 years of this, and every year I get worse. Maybe Im beyond help. There was a girl who managed to be euthanised for mental illness at 29 years old....
So far Ive been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, alcohol dependency, opioid dependency, atypical vertigo, tetany, suspicions of eating disorder, many more keep reappearing in my chart, recently my blood quit clotting and my legs started going numb, Im just so MULTIPLY FUCKED.
Im in agonizing pain both physically and mentally and nothing ever works.
I feel theyre sending me a message to give up...
Nothing I try ever works. Multiple diagnoses, all life gone to shit.

 

[IWantToSleep]

That's how I feel about myself a lot of the time.

 

[blahblahhh]

Same, friend. I share your despair—deeply. I do think neurologically you can become too far gone. But how many times have you heard "it gets better."
Sadly, sometimes it does not :(

 

[GoneGirl]

Nobody is unfixable. We all suffer in our own ways. Some worse than others.

You are important x

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Yes.

 

[BridgeJumper]

Its gotten to the point where hospitals wont deal with me, they just send me away...my body is breaking down.... All my friends managed to get on with their lives while I spend mine wasting away in institutions...

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Its gotten to the point where hospitals wont deal with me, they just send me away...my body is breaking down.... All my friends managed to get on with their lives while I spend mine wasting away in institutions...

Don't think you live close to me but I'd hang out with you and listen to you.

 

[Trisolaris]

I'm definitely beyond fixable. Not everyone was destined to live a normal life. Some are just made to suffer.

 

[aneurysm]

definitely

 

[WornOutLife]

Well, I used to believe I was 100% unfixable. Now, a 50% maybe? Lol

 

[Cashewmilk]

I'm intrigued on your opioid dependency. Are you still dependent on them, and for how long?

I've been dependent on them for the last 12 years...Quitting is definitely not an option. Even though I started doing them in my 20's, and other drugs (like weed/coke etc) AFTER my first suicide attempt at aged 14, doctors love blaming my mental illnesses on drugs. Even though my entire childhood I was a complete failure and unable to do anything or understand anything - I totally had learning and mental disabilities in childhood that went undiagnosed and ignored. I get completely brushed off, barred from seeing a psychologist or psychiatrist, because I'm not sober. It's a fucked up system we have here, but that's pretty much why I never got help. I haven't seen a psychiatrist much in my life. When I was 14, and it was a shit doctor, she barely listened to me and misdiagnosed me, because later on I was diagnosed with bipolar. After that I was supposed to go get assessed and diagnosed further, but it was too late. My own family doc even says that the mental health system in our city is severely underfunded and lacking, and he refused to refer me straight to a psychiatrist for some reason, he says because of insurance. I don't even know why any of this even matters, because either way life is stupid. Look at the planet, how can you ignore the tonnes of microplastic in our oceans and fucking landfills poisoning everything and be happy and content? I mean I guess you could if you A) had a shit ton of money, B) never have any kids, C) had a guaranteed peaceful death so you can escape before shit hits the fan.

 

[mediocre]

Yes I do. I really believe some people are destined really to ctb. Life is just not possible for some of us. I've felt this way since I was very young. But maybe that's my autism talking.

 

[BridgeJumper]

I'm intrigued on your opioid dependency. Are you still dependent on them, and for how long?

I've been dependent on them for the last 12 years...Quitting is definitely not an option. Even though I started doing them in my 20's, and other drugs (like weed/coke etc) AFTER my first suicide attempt at aged 14, doctors love blaming my mental illnesses on drugs. Even though my entire childhood I was a complete failure and unable to do anything or understand anything - I totally had learning and mental disabilities in childhood that went undiagnosed and ignored. I get completely brushed off, barred from seeing a psychologist or psychiatrist, because I'm not sober. It's a fucked up system we have here, but that's pretty much why I never got help. I haven't seen a psychiatrist much in my life. When I was 14, and it was a shit doctor, she barely listened to me and misdiagnosed me, because later on I was diagnosed with bipolar. After that I was supposed to go get assessed and diagnosed further, but it was too late. My own family doc even says that the mental health system in our city is severely underfunded and lacking, and he refused to refer me straight to a psychiatrist for some reason, he says because of insurance. I don't even know why any of this even matters, because either way life is stupid. Look at the planet, how can you ignore the tonnes of microplastic in our oceans and fucking landfills poisoning everything and be happy and content? I mean I guess you could if you A) had a shit ton of money, B) never have any kids, C) had a guaranteed peaceful death so you can escape before shit hits the fan.

Ive been dependent for only 4-5 months. Started with the weakest pills and it made me spiral into hard drugs. I was always addicted to something. At least the last 7 years. My body completely ravaged. Abused meds, sleeping pills, binge drank high proof alcohol. Currently I have lost everything in my life, friends, family, money, for being a junkie. It doesnt matter how much of a good person I try to be, I obviously look like an addict and as soon as they see, they loathe me...

 

[loopylou]

I don't believe so, but I think so many doctors feel like they have exhausted all means to help somebody. When they really haven't. The only time I get noticed properly for my conditions is when a new doctor starts

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I think I am, at least within the confines of reality as we know it. Perhaps with access to techniques from fantasy or science fiction I could see some easy methods for solving my problems but other than that there is nothing in the real world that can help fix me so far.

 

[Antigonish]

I'm definently unfixable. Atleast by the standards of others. I myself don't feel like there is anything wrong with me. Or should I say I'm depressed yet I still love who and what I am. I just don't have the will to want to live.

 

[Pol]

short answer. yes

 

[wait.what]

I think I have something that is currently incurable and probably won't become curable in my lifetime, yes.

 

[booray]

I was in a partial hospitalization program for my treatment resistant depression last year and one of the mantras of the program was that we were "stuck, not broken". While I derived some benefits from my participation, I just could not buy into this blanket statement because I felt that it did not apply to me. I still feel that way because I completely destroyed my life with a crystal meth addiction that lasted four and a half years. I've been sober now for a year and a half, but for a variety of reasons I will never be able to recover and rebuild my life. So yes, I do believe that some people are just not fixable.

 

[finalexit]

Possibly. I don't feel like there's any hope for myself at least, under the current conditions of this existence

 

[Arnie]

There definitely are people who can't be fixed.

 

[nolongerhuman]

I hesitate to say that about anyone else, but I'm starting to think it for myself. I'm losing hope that currently available mental health programs can fix me. It's been so long trying with so little relief.

 

[DeadButDreaming]

Nobody is unfixable. We all suffer in our own ways. Some worse than others.

You are important x

This is simply untrue. I know of a man who sustained severe brain damage. He is a vegetable, and there is no way he'll be anything but a vegetable.

 

[Makko]

People are clay bowls. If it breaks, you can glue it together, but it will never be as new again. And if it came out of the pottery poorly made to start with, you can paint it over in fancy glazes and colors, but you can't transform it into a well made bowl.

 

[Natty]

I think it depends, I was told that addiction was the reason I was miserable.

My alcohol addiction was horrific and it had a profound impact on my life, I have never met someone who was so far in and was able to get out, but here I am. During my worst I was spending literal months drinking a liter or more of vodka a day. I've gone through the DTs and serious withdrawals more times than I can count. Days that felt like weeks unable to drink water, violent tremors, covered in my own urine. Each time I would stop for a while I would fall down ten times as far. This went on for years.

I have done everything I was supposed to do. I quit drinking, I quit nicotine (more than a pack a day habit for nearly 16 years), I lost weight and stuck to diets, I eliminated other vices, I worked on acute anxiety issues (health anxiety, ironically, was in control of my life for a long time and it was one of the hardest battles I've fought), I've made plans for the future, I've tried re kindling my old hobbies and interested and investing time and money into them, I've moved across the ocean to a new country, I was able to pretty much remove my horrible father from my life, I got married.

I've done everything I am supposed to have done and things are the worst they have ever been.

In my case? I think there is sufficient reason to believe that my life and therefore my future, are beyond repair.

 

[muffin222]

I do believe that a subset of people are beyond the clinical reach of the present-day treatments we have available for some illnesses, both mental and physical.

 

[Luna88]

I think some people are not made for life. You are deeper and more sensitive than others and will always have such a difficult time in life. You are always looking for the meaning that ultimately doesn't exist. To live with the prospect of this is terrible.

 

[Buffy5120]

Do you believe some people are just unfixable?
Beyond help?
I had 48 sections, 2-3 years of therapy, traveled to 2 treatment centers, all of that has done nothing for me
NOTHING
NULL.
14 years of this, and every year I get worse. Maybe Im beyond help. There was a girl who managed to be euthanised for mental illness at 29 years old....
So far Ive been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, alcohol dependency, opioid dependency, atypical vertigo, tetany, suspicions of eating disorder, many more keep reappearing in my chart, recently my blood quit clotting and my legs started going numb, Im just so MULTIPLY FUCKED.
Im in agonizing pain both physically and mentally and nothing ever works.
I feel theyre sending me a message to give up...
Nothing I try ever works. Multiple diagnoses, all life gone to shit.

Yes just like cars get worn out and you have to junk it, so do we.

Its gotten to the point where hospitals wont deal with me, they just send me away...my body is breaking down.... All my friends managed to get on with their lives while I spend mine wasting away in institutions...

See this is what I dont like. When we try to ask for help to get better, even sometimes from family and friends, they either dont have time to deal with us, dont care enough to cure us, then ignore us, and tell us to fuck off & deal with it, but then when we ctb they suddenly start to interfere and ban peacefully ways to go becuase they only care about themseleves and dont want to admit life wasn't worth it for that person, & dont want to mess up their perceptions on life, and want to fake about it to protect their happiness, and dont want to admit dying is and almost always the only option for people that have had unending chronic debilitating illnesses for years, even while repeadtly trying & exhausting all options over and over again to get better, but has not, those people have a right to end their misery, but they just dont want to admit it. Its really pisses me off, they are basically trapping us. Ignorant bastards.

 

[NegativeSymptoms]

Yes, negative symptoms of schizophrenia and cognitive impairment has no treatment. Life without emotions and pleasure is not worth living, especially when cognition is ruined too. Add severe social anxiety on top of that and life is hell. Bedridden for life like a vegetable.

 

[blahblahhh]

When you think it can't get any worse and then it gets worse—lol. That's such a fun one! You're gradually BELOW the rocks at the bottom!

I spent my entire twenties doing everything I could to alleviate my neurology after modern medicine had already failed me. I mean EVERYTHING. I became this wandering spiritual sadhu in a quest for healing and realization. From zen monasteries in France to Ayahuasca in the central rain forest. Crazy raw food vegan diets to intense fasting. My point is: I've tried everything under the sun (literally)—as it was my only objective to truly heal. Granted, much was gained in terms of perspective and developing a softer, simpler, kinder human being that is in touch with the depths of this fucked up human predicament.

And here I am...bedridden 23 hours a day. My only central activity is showering and that is proving to become difficult. Entirely isolated in a bedroom. I'll spare the grim details of this nightmare...