Do y'all feel guilty telling others about ways to ctb?

[stupidguy]

I just shared my story of finding a way to ctb with a guy on this site. And — I honestly feel quite guilty. A voice inside me saying " Hey, you're indirectly killing someone "
And I feel so bad. Maybe I just like to help people and support them more than — ...
I feel bad that so many of us are struggling and thinking about suicide. And how unfair life has been to all of us. But isn't it intriguing that even though not everyone has someone, we can be that someone to the ones struggling here? And offer support and make them feel less lonely perhaps?

 

[Hvergelmir]

I certainly avoid giving direct suicide instructions.
I firmly believe that it's mechanically simple, and that the information is pretty easily accessible. I don't have anything relevant to add.

My advice is usually to keep it simple, and try to solve the underlying problems first.
I tend to discourage any tests, experiments, or other suicide-adjacent things, not meant to be final.

 

[fedup1982]

Yes. But the truth is there is no easy way to die for most of us so it doesn't really matter?

 

[SoLowHollow48]

I just shared my story of finding a way to ctb with a guy on this site. And — I honestly feel quite guilty. A voice inside me saying " Hey, you're indirectly killing someone "
And I feel so bad. Maybe I just like to help people and support them more than — ...
I feel bad that so many of us are struggling and thinking about suicide. And how unfair life has been to all of us. But isn't it intriguing that even though not everyone has someone, we can be that someone to the ones struggling here? And offer support and make them feel less lonely perhaps?

Like others have said, as long as you don't give direct instructions then you're good. The rest is up to them tbh. I think a good rule to follow is to never help anyone find the complete instruction of killing themselves on this site unless their thread is posted under Methods.

 

[AltercatingVoices]

It could cause someone to carry out suicide. Personally though, I see the potential alternatives to be far worse. eg Them having chose a method that causes them even more suffering by information of "better methods" being withheld, or living a lifetime of only longing to end it. Everyone should have that choice.

 

[stupidguy]

Yes. But the truth is there is no easy way to die for most of us so it doesn't really matter?

Yeah but isn't it rather better to support them and be there for them? Make them feel better? Cuz maybe life isn't as bad as it seems right now if you have someone with you? Unconditionally.

It could cause someone to carry out suicide. Personally though, I see the potential alternatives to be far worse. eg Them having chose a method that causes them even more suffering by information of "better methods" being withheld, or living a lifetime of only longing to end it. Everyone should have that choice.

So maybe it's better to help them out, be there for them as a friend?

 

[AltercatingVoices]

Could be to some extent, though not everyone falls into the category of fixable. Chronic pain, mental illness, arguably poverty. If the advice is impartial/non coercive I don't see much a problem at all. They've weighed it out already for them to have been lead to that decision

 

[fedup1982]

Yeah but isn't it rather better to support them and be there for them? Make them feel better? Cuz maybe life isn't as bad as it seems right now if you have someone with you? Unconditionally.

So maybe it's better to help them out, be there for them as a friend?

I am with you on that. The problem is you can't be the world's friend, you'll burn yourself out

 

[Hvergelmir]

I am with you on that. The problem is you can't be the world's friend, you'll burn yourself out

Indeed. We must not forget where we are. I intentionally keep some emotional distance.
I don't think that a common interest in suicide is a good basis for friendship.

That shouldn't stop anyone from being nice or helpful, though.

 

[stupidguy]

I am with you on that. The problem is you can't be the world's friend, you'll burn yourself out

You're right but — I think I'd rather be someone's friend than an aid to suicide. Not judging suicide but — just having a friend with you might change that desire to die.
And I can always suggest or even find them a therapist. Right?

Could be to some extent, though not everyone falls into the category of fixable. Chronic pain, mental illness, arguably poverty. If the advice is impartial/non coercive I don't see much a problem at all. They've weighed it out already for them to have been lead to that decision

I know but they've made that decision in a temporary phase, right? And that is changeable. If they have just someone beside them in all this, they might want to stay.
For the one's with illnesses, they can kill themselves easily. They don't need to be on this page. If I'm not wrong hospitals and doctors do allow suicide for patients with diseases that can't be cured.

But for the one's who're going through a lot. I don't know about others but I honestly feel I want to be there for them. Because I know how it feels. And I know that just having someone beside you can and does a lot of times reduce the surge, the urges to suicide.

 

[buriedinmyhead]

I just shared my story of finding a way to ctb with a guy on this site. And — I honestly feel quite guilty. A voice inside me saying " Hey, you're indirectly killing someone "
And I feel so bad. Maybe I just like to help people and support them more than — ...
I feel bad that so many of us are struggling and thinking about suicide. And how unfair life has been to all of us. But isn't it intriguing that even though not everyone has someone, we can be that someone to the ones struggling here? And offer support and make them feel less lonely perhaps?

I avoid telling anyone how, it makes me guilty just thinking about it. I just tell people if their method won't work and will fail, since that usually brings someone even more pain (if it leaves them with health issues after)

 

[thelostautistic]

To avoid this I don't tell others what they should do, don't encourage others and don't give others sources when they ask. You don't know who's behind the screen so you need to be really careful here

 

[LonelyPrince]

One time I tried helping someone get their sn.
I wasn't supplying it myself and was only giving options on how to contact the seller but I still felt guilty.
It can't be helped.

 

[49Slides]

yeah i dont think im very comfortable doing it anymore after giving it more thought and i wish i could take back when id provide sources of info and stuff. its good its only like 2 times though

 

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[ben_]

I'm actually feeling a bit guilty by *avoiding* giving any CTB advice. But I believe I'd feel more guilty if I did. Not always, but in general I probably would.

Honestly it sometimes breaks my heart when I read goodbye posts of people in their 20s. I was a mess in their age, too (and still am now lol). But I'm simply not able to accept that CTB is the best (or only) option for all of them. I don't seem to be able to help them, though. So I don't say anything. This world is an awful place if young people choose to go this way.

For the one's with illnesses, they can kill themselves easily. They don't need to be on this page. If I'm not wrong hospitals and doctors do allow suicide for patients with diseases that can't be cured.

I don't think it's always this easy and accessible. Not in all countries for sure. One of the reasons I'm on this site is because I always wanted to have that option in case I have an incurable illness.