Help disability after a suicide attempt?

[Sickman75]

Ive been reading on here as of late alot of people try and get disability
after a suicide attempt. is that possible? how does that work out in favor for the person?
can anybody do that? can someone please tell me how..thanx

 

[felix]

Ive been reading on here as of late alot of people try and get disability
after a suicide attempt. is that possible? how does that work out in favor for the person?
can anybody do that? can someone please tell me how..thanx

Imma pry have to get on it. I've got bad mental illness anxiety and psychosis and I can't work cuz of social anxiety and mental slowness.

 

[Sickman75]

i didnt know you can do this. i keep reading it on here tho

 

[Jen Erik]

In the U.S., it is not the act of attempted suicide that creates eligibility for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) payments but the underlying mental illness. There's also Supplemental Security Income (SSI) payments which some people also refer to as 'disability'.

Both are administered by the Social Security Administration. SSDI eligibility typically requires having paid Social Security taxes; SSI does not have that requirement, it is needs based.

Yes, literally anybody can apply.

This link explains some of the specific requirements for both SSDI and SSI: https://www.ssa.gov/planners/disability/

While anybody can apply, I can tell you that I know from personal experience that if you don't have an experienced doctor who knows how to work within the confines of the Social Security system and/or a long documented history of mental illness, it can be a long process to get approved nowadays. Apparently there is a back log of applications so they just outright reject some initial applicants, who eventually get approved on appeal, which can take a couple years.

 

[VoloFataliDoce]

You have to have a lot of medical records showing that your condition makes it almost impossible for you to work for them to approve you. (Sometimes!) a suicide attempt can add weight to those records, assuming of course that you go to the hospital afterwards to get treatment. In my opinion having worked with people who initially apply, those who have ongoing records and are keeping their appointments are the ones to be approved with as little difficulty as possible. One attempt and then months of no treatment, no doctor's appointments, etc, is not going to bode well on the application.

 

[Sickman75]

You have to have a lot of medical records showing that your condition makes it almost impossible for you to work for them to approve you. (Sometimes!) a suicide attempt can add weight to those records, assuming of course that you go to the hospital afterwards to get treatment. In my opinion having worked with people who initially apply, those who have ongoing records and are keeping their appointments are the ones to be approved with as little difficulty as possible. One attempt and then months of no treatment, no doctor's appointments, etc, is not going to bode well on the application.

thank you

 

[Sickman75]

In the U.S., it is not the act of attempted suicide that creates eligibility for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) payments but the underlying mental illness. There's also Supplemental Security Income (SSI) payments which some people also refer to as 'disability'.

Both are administered by the Social Security Administration. SSDI eligibility typically requires having paid Social Security taxes; SSI does not have that requirement, it is needs based.

Yes, literally anybody can apply.

This link explains some of the specific requirements for both SSDI and SSI: https://www.ssa.gov/planners/disability/

While anybody can apply, I can tell you that I know from personal experience that if you don't have an experienced doctor who knows how to work within the confines of the Social Security system and/or a long documented history of mental illness, it can be a long process to get approved nowadays. Apparently there is a back log of applications so they just outright reject some initial applicants, who eventually get approved on appeal, which can take a couple years.

thank you for sharing

 

[Logic]

Ive been reading on here as of late alot of people try and get disability
after a suicide attempt. is that possible? how does that work out in favor for the person?
can anybody do that? can someone please tell me how..thanx

What country are you in, what is your age and do you have any prior health conditions?

 

[Sickman75]

What country are you in, what is your age and do you have any prior health conditions?

United States 44. 2 massivr heart attacks.
See a shrink and a counselor recovering addict and alcoholic.

 

[Redt2go]

United States 44. 2 massivr heart attacks.
See a shrink and a counselor recovering addict and alcoholic.

Sheesh :(

 

[TheCrow]

2 massive heart attacks

holy shit! & you're so young!

 

[Sickman75]

Sheesh :(

Hello @Redt2go how are you today?

 

[Sickman75]

holy shit! & you're so young!

I know. They happened 6 months apart from each other. Took me over a year to recover

 

[Redt2go]

Hello @Redt2go how are you today?

Great! :) How are you?

 

[Sickman75]

Great! :) How are you?

About the same. Doing some reading on here. Getting caught up before I indulge into Breaking Bad. Some good reads here today.

 

[TheCrow]

I know. They happened 6 months apart from each other. Took me over a year to recover

Omg! That's terrible! Man, I'm so sorry. Those hurt, right?

 

[Sickman75]

Yeah- it hurt my whole body before and after.
Head to toe. Arms hurt so bad. Then my legs, then my left arm then my right while eveeything else was still hurting. I couldn't poop. Sweating. Tired.
Like an ughhhhhh constantly tired. Didn't know what was going on. My wife drive me past the ER and I changed my mind if going in. Bought maylox? That stuff you drink to kill heart burn. Chest pain went away forv awhile that's why I said no to the ER. Drank that whole bottle. Got home outside with my daughter teaching her how to ride bike. Told her I have to go in. Went inside started pacing the room felt really weird. Went outside and Bam fell. Had my heart attack. Went to ER had that done. Came back home like 5 days later. Slept for 5 months solid. 6 month mArk left side was hurting super bad too, I'm like here we go again. Went in had that fixed. Now I'm good as new.

 

[Redt2go]

About the same. Doing some reading on here. Getting caught up before I indulge into Breaking Bad. Some good reads here today.

I agree I'm really enjoying the making peace with dying thread

 

[StreamingMySuicide]

I'm on disability. I have had multiple suicide attempts. I remember the person saying something like "You were determined to need it based on having personality disorders and other disorders." or something like this..

 

[stellabelle]

Ive been reading on here as of late alot of people try and get disability
after a suicide attempt. is that possible? how does that work out in favor for the person?
can anybody do that? can someone please tell me how..thanx

I have tried. I have an extensive history. They say I'm not "disabled enough" but I'm disabled. It's stupid and cruel. I paid into that shit, why the fuck am I not entitled to collect it? I've heard that if you appeal, it's generally approved the second time or even the third time but I was so damn depressed even that was too difficult to do.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I have tried. I have an extensive history. They say I'm not "disabled enough" but I'm disabled. It's stupid and cruel. I paid into that shit, why the fuck am I not entitled to collect it? I've heard that if you appeal, it's generally approved the second time or even the third time but I was so damn depressed even that was too difficult to do.

I'm in some online chronic pain groups and from what i've read, you really need a disability lawyer to win if you're younger. You don't have to pay them until you get your backpay, and then they take a percentage of that. I read that it takes some people years and years to get approved.

 

[stellabelle]

I'm in some online chronic pain groups and from what i've read, you really need a disability lawyer to win if you're younger. You don't have to pay them until you get your backpay, and then they take a percentage of that. I read that it takes some people years and years to get approved.

Thank you for your advice. I'm considering attempting again or applying again. I figured I was just better off dead. God forbid there is change in my pocket or that I have a dime of the same shit that I paid into.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Thank you for your advice. I'm considering attempting again or applying again. I figured I was just better off dead. God forbid there is change in my pocket or that I have a dime of the same shit that I paid into.

Have you applied before? If it was within 90 days (I think), you can just appeal, that way if you win you can collect backpay from the date you applied. If it was over 90 days apply again and when they deny you, get a lawyer. You might want to request your medical files and look over them (if you get a lawyer they will help you). You need a doctor to write exactly how your illness prevents you from doing things in your medical file. Some Drs. take super shitty notes, so it helps to know whats in your file.

 

[stellabelle]

Have you applied before? If it was within 90 days (I think), you can just appeal, that way if you win you can collect backpay from the date you applied. If it was over 90 days apply again and when they deny you, get a lawyer. You might want to request your medical files and look over them (if you get a lawyer they will help you). You need a doctor to write exactly how your illness prevents you from doing things in your medical file. Some Drs. take super shitty notes, so it helps to know whats in your file.

I have. It was denied in November. It needs to be done within 60 days, which I didn't do. So I'd have to reapply again. My understanding is backpay from the time that I was unable to work until approved. You're right, I will probably need a lawyer to help fight my case.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I have. It was denied in November. It needs to be done within 60 days, which I didn't do. So I'd have to reapply again. My understanding is backpay from the time that I was unable to work until approved. You're right, I will probably need a lawyer to help fight my case.

Well, good luck! I'm going to apply soon and i'm sure it's going to be a long, frustrating, bureaucratic mess.

 

[TheCrow]

Yeah- it hurt my whole body before and after.
Head to toe. Arms hurt so bad. Then my legs, then my left arm then my right while eveeything else was still hurting. I couldn't poop. Sweating. Tired.
Like an ughhhhhh constantly tired. Didn't know what was going on. My wife drive me past the ER and I changed my mind if going in. Bought maylox? That stuff you drink to kill heart burn. Chest pain went away forv awhile that's why I said no to the ER. Drank that whole bottle. Got home outside with my daughter teaching her how to ride bike. Told her I have to go in. Went inside started pacing the room felt really weird. Went outside and Bam fell. Had my heart attack. Went to ER had that done. Came back home like 5 days later. Slept for 5 months solid. 6 month mArk left side was hurting super bad too, I'm like here we go again. Went in had that fixed. Now I'm good as new.

OH. my god. Jesus, dude. That is crazy and horrible. I am really sorry and glad that you are better now.

 

[TheCrow]

I'm in some online chronic pain groups and from what i've read, you really need a disability lawyer to win if you're younger. You don't have to pay them until you get your backpay, and then they take a percentage of that. I read that it takes some people years and years to get approved.

This is true.

 

[lost_soul83]

Ive been reading on here as of late alot of people try and get disability
after a suicide attempt. is that possible? how does that work out in favor for the person?
can anybody do that? can someone please tell me how..thanx

In the US it's much easier to get approved for disability for a mental problem, rather than a physical one, believe it or not. The key is to have plenty of documentation from your doctors. You can start the process of applying online and they'll call you to do a follow-up phone interview. I got approved my first time around, without the help of a lawyer and it took less than a year. I also received almost $10,000 of back pay. I say go for it. It's easier than you think and you've got nothing to lose.

 

[stellabelle]

Well, good luck! I'm going to apply soon and i'm sure it's going to be a long, frustrating, bureaucratic mess.

Thank you. I really hope it goes easier for you and you don't have to fight to get approved.

 

[bigj75]

Would rather die than be disabled