Depression or shitty Life?

[MyUniqueUsername]

Anyone else got diagnosed with "depression" and doesn't really agree?

Like I'm depressed that's true, but only cause my life sucks, because of constant work, no money to do fun things, no time, tiredness because of work.

So if I want things to get better I just need to work even more, so I get more depressed, cause I never heard or found any job that I would consider anything close to fun or how some people describe their jobs.

Every single thing that I like to do and is fun costs money and usually alot.

So I don't know, I don't think I'm mentally ill, just poor.

I would say 80%+ of my issue would disappear with money and not being a wage slave that spends most of their time being controlled by others.


Anyone had something similar and found a fix? Lmao

 

[R. A.]

Psychiatric diagnoses are largely a tool to further oppressed already oppressed people (and for the medical industry to make money off them). They will never off you stable life circumstances to treat "depression", only drugs and therapists.

 

[amerie]

^ R. A is right. They can be helpful if you have conditions like schizophrenia and bipolar or genuinely can't control yourself without medication or medical intervention or need accommodations, but diagnosing people with personality disorders or depression when the problem could be systemic and environmental factors that should be fixed has always rubbed me the wrong way personally.

It's like diagnosing someone who has a bleeding open wound on their shoulder with "pain disorder" yeah no shit I'm in pain because THERES A FUCKING WOUND ON MY SHOULDER.

I mean they can be useful but the amount of times where I've seen people especially marginalized diagnosed with stuff that's so outlandish because doctors see them as hysterical just makes me angry, almost as if they're telling them that they're permanently broken and just crazy even though their feelings are justified.

 

[PI3.14]

Pathologizing people's suffering is easier, cheaper, and faster "solution" than trying to actually solve the root causes.

 

[whywere]

I am older, and I mention this only because I have worked my way up and I am doing ok, as far as a salary goes.

I still have massive depression, and I do not have to worry about economic issues.

Also, my depression is heredity related, as I found out that a great aunt shot herself.

I feel that depression can be from so many factors, money, relationships and at least for me the big overall aspect is genetics.

I wish for you lots of caring and kind thoughts and a wonderful upcoming weekend for a good friend, YOU!

Walter

 

[MyUniqueUsername]

Thanks alot for the great replies, really makes me feel better

Really good points, never really thought about how it actually really invalidates people's feelings if you say it's only a disease and not bad circumstances, which often make you understandbly depressed.


But probably I would also be like Walter, we always think grass is greener on the other side, propably a bit too simplistic to justify everything with economic situation, as there are poor people, who are happy or contempt, though I can't wrap my mind around it at all.

Never understood how people who work like 10+ hours a day in toxic environments are able to not be suicidal, seems so alien to me.

Sorry for my rambling

 

[DirtCommie]

Ya after 30 years of near homelessness(well technically as Im typing this I actually am homeless. Also my mom was homeless when I was born) I am sure that my eternal sadness only stems from being eternally dirt broke.I think the studies and video prove me right. EVERY.SINGLE.ONE of my current problems would be solved with just having enough money lol. It has also been found that rates of depression scale with how low your income is.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.12.04.23299380v1.full ,

I also really like this video because there is a quote that the dude says in the video that goes along the lines of:

"One of the biggest successes of neoliberalism was convincing most people that depression can ONLY result from internal chemical imbalances rather than as reaction to external world shittiness lol. For a lot of ' depressed' people youre probably not even depressed at all ! There is the possibility that your body and brain are just reacting to a. fucked world where there are some war mongering, greedy , lazy people ( like musk, george bush, ibn mohammad ,modi, trump, etc... ) who have crazy excesses of resources and wealth meanwhile a decent, peaceful , hard worker such as yourself has to scrape by with slave wages and practical homelessness. It is.not that 'CliNiCAl dEpREsSiOn DoesNt ExIst', it clearly does exist, its just that sooome people are having a completely normal depressed reaction to unfair inequities they are beaten up by and see every day...and thats OK. The inequities must be dismantled but their reactions are OK. "

This is right here the quote that I live by↑

There are a dearth of therapists who acknowledge that someone is literally not depressed in clinical terms . Theyre just dirt broke, ostracized and this results in their current sadness....that's it ! lol! I feel that this is by design cause so therapists would have to acknowledge that " they alone cannot help this depressed person in front of them with clinical methods or drugs but rsther this person can only be helped through systematic changes that gives them human rights that ensure they have access to things to ...well... make them human again . Like a home. And a living wage.And a community that doesnt ostracize them based on how low their income is . And the ability to afford health care or mental health care when they need it. And the ability to afford time off when they need it....That's it!"

 

[MyUniqueUsername]

Ya after 30 years of near homelessness(well technically as Im typing this I actually am homeless. Also my mom was homeless when I was born) I am sure that my eternal sadness only stems from being eternally dirt broke.I think the studies and video prove me right. EVERY.SINGLE.ONE of my current problems would be solved with just having enough money lol. It has also been found that rates of depression scale with how low your income is.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.12.04.23299380v1.full ,

I also really like this video because there is a quote that the dude says in the video that goes along the lines of:

"One of the biggest successes of neoliberalism was convincing most people that depression can ONLY result from internal chemical imbalances rather than as reaction to external world shittiness lol. For a lot of people youre probably not even depressed at all ! There is the possibility that your body and brain are just reacting to a. fucked world where there are some greedy , lazy people ( like musk, george bush, ibn mohammad ,modi, trump, etc... ) who have crazy excesses of resources and wealth meanwhile a decent, peaceful , hard worker such as yourself has to scrape by with slave wages and practical homelessness"

This is right here the quote that I live by↑

There are a dearth of therapists who acknowledge that someone is literally not depressed in clinical terms . Theyre just dirt broke, ostracized and this results in their current sadness....that's it ! lol! I feel that this is by design cause se therapists would have to acknowledge that " they alone cannot help this depressed person in front of them with clinical methods or drugs but rsther this person can only be helped through systematic changes that gives them human rights that ensure they have access to things to ...well... make them human again . Like a home. And a living wage.And a community that doesnt ostracize them based on how low their income is . And the ability to afford health care or mental health care when they need it. And the ability to afford time off when they need it....That's it!"

Wow great explanation, never saw this being talked about in so much detail, thanks alot!


Only therapist I met so far, was more like poor people can be happy or you can get out of poverty (which I think alot won't/can't, everyone poor would do it if it's possible ) , which yeah I never understood, how can you be happy like that, we are literally slaves in shitty living conditions, we just wrapped some layers of abstraction around it to make it look like it's not the same thing we are doing for thousands of years now with slavery.

And man so sad to hear, I really hope you can get a home at least So ridiculous we even need to talk about homelessness, while hundreds of people could live on 1 billionaires superyacht or you could propably house tens of thousands permanently for their entire lifetime with that kinda money for just 1 stupid yacht, plane or mansion. Praying for you!
If you believe in God I recommend reading Luke 16:19, we may suffer here, but if we put our faith in jesus we will suffer never again. I really know it's true, but don't trust religions, just the bible and god, it's all true.