Discussion debunk all the clichés that get thrown at us, including toxic positivity about depression, anxiety, suicide etc

[SpiderLink]

im asking this because im curious what people think about this and their thoughts about it and what they say to those that say such things..

 

[FuneralCry]

To me any kind of toxic positivity is certainly insensitive and is centred around delusional beliefs about the harsh reality of existing here, it's insane to say that existing "gets better" in this harmful world that is filled with endless risks and potential for the most extreme suffering.

In fact the reality is that existing will just get worse as we are destined for nothing but to decay from age and suffer a great deal in the process, the thought of reaching a much older age disturbs me, existing could never be a desirable state in the first place, I see nothing appealing about enduring something so pointless as existing, to exist means to suffer so unnecessarily.

 

[willitpass]

"You survived your attempt because you didn't really want to die". That one infuriated me and my father has told me that after every attempt and still tells me it to this day, when he thinks I'm in recovery. It feels so invalidating to me, but I never tell that to him because I don't want to hurt his feelings.

 

[SpiderLink]

"You survived your attempt because you didn't really want to die". That one infuriated me and my father has told me that after every attempt and still tells me it to this day, when he thinks I'm in recovery. It feels so invalidating to me, but I never tell that to him because I don't want to hurt his feelings.

I'm sorry to hear that, that really sucks! I know it's hard, but you should try to let him know. If u can.

 

[captive]

no one is obliged to live if there's no will for that. imagine if you tried some video game which in your opinion is boring and sucks exceptionally bad and you are being forced to complete it no matter how shitty it is. many people would say "BUT WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE AROUND YOU, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR FRIENDS" well we all are going to die anyway, some of us sooner than others. either you'll go through that feeling or your close ones will outlive you somehow. people die eventually and that's normal. one who wants to kill thyself might have some severe mental conditions which can likely mean eternal suffering for them. hence delivering the question: why suffer so long to die naturally in the end? why not to just quit earlier?