Dangerous people on here

[timetodie24]

Some people on here are trying to control me. Trying to gaslight me and convince me not to ctb (bit ironic on a suicide forum). Clearly you're being controlled too and in on it . I know you want to make me stay to suffer longer. So you're happy that many others will die instead ? You clearly have no conscience, I don't understand what you want really or why you care to do this. If I listen to you, many people die . Sure some people may be harmed or die when I end it. But it will save many more. Order will be restored. Why do you want to let there be chaos ? Who do you work for ?
This isn't about everyone here, if this is you, you'll know who you are but is multiple people.

 

[wyo777]

I got bad feeling that Your CTB plan involves other people....

 

[Darkover]

the delusional mind hard at work trying to justify its existence i acknowledge that you are sincere in your beliefs but the lack of evidence to support your views

 

[Ambivalent1]

Do you have schizophrenia?

 

[alltoomuch2]

Some people on here are trying to control me. Trying to gaslight me and convince me not to ctb (bit ironic on a suicide forum). Clearly you're being controlled too and in on it . I know you want to make me stay to suffer longer. So you're happy that many others will die instead ? You clearly have no conscience, I don't understand what you want really or why you care to do this. If I listen to you, many people die . Sure some people may be harmed or die when I end it. But it will save many more. Order will be restored. Why do you want to let there be chaos ? Who do you work for ?
This isn't about everyone here, if this is you, you'll know who you are but is multiple people.

Can you block them or ignore them?

 

[Kapsyl]

It's better if more people die, all existence is suffering to some degree.

Do you seriously believe that others should die because of your philosophical believes?

 

[lizzywizzy09]

Do you seriously believe that others should die because of your philosophical believes?

Yeah, more people than not enjoy life in general. We're just not those people.

 

[Saturn_]

Why would other people die if you did that? Genuinely are you okay? Don't know what's going on but this post is kind of alarming...

 

[DepressedDude]

Do you seriously believe that others should die because of your philosophical believes?

Yes, I don't even get upset anymore if I hear people have died from whatever causes whether it be an accident, suicide or homicide. I see all death as freedom from this prison planet. We all have to die one day anyway…

 

[Tesha]

Are you still hearing the same voices?

 

[UKscotty]

I don't think it's true people will have to die within 20 years. Humans will certainly be able to stop aging and death by then. Who will have access to it is another matter for society to deal with.

As for people being dangerous, this is a forum for people with mental ill health. None of us here is in good mental shape.

 

[timetodie24]

Do you have schizophrenia?

No , I dont.

Can you block them or ignore them?

Too many to block. Ignoring is probably wise as I keep arguing back and getting nowhere

Yes, I don't even get upset anymore if I hear people have died from whatever causes whether it be an accident, suicide or homicide. I see all death as freedom from this prison planet. We all have to die one day anyway…

Plenty of people in the world want to live and I need to protect as many people as I can , including people close to me. We're in the minority on here whether you like it or not. Most people try to avoid death.

Why would other people die if you did that? Genuinely are you okay? Don't know what's going on but this post is kind of alarming...

There's people controlling me and I have to die to save others. My method could put people at risk but will try my best not to.

 

[alltoomuch2]

No , I dont.

Too many to block. Ignoring is probably wise as I keep arguing back and getting nowhere


Plenty of people in the world want to live and I need to protect as many people as I can , including people close to me. We're in the minority on here whether you like it or not. Most people try to avoid death.

There's people controlling me and I have to die to save others. My method could put people at risk but will try my best not to.

Agree. You can only ignore them. They will never admit they are wrong. Don't want to intrude too much but is there no way for you not to put people at risk? Is there a way for you to not risk their lives. Their lives aren't for us to risk. There must be a way for other people not to die when they don't want to? We have to be kind to others whatever we want to do or feel we have to do.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

No , I dont. (have schizophrenia)

There's people controlling me and I have to die to save others. My method could put people at risk but will try my best not to.

I think you probably do (have schizophrenia), even though it's undiagnosed. I believe you have the absolute right to ctb, but I think you should only make a decision like that, a decision of such magnitude, with a sane, rational mind.

 

[ThatStateOfMind]

If your method even has a chance of harming others, people here are usually going to be against it. I would say a majority of the people consider others when CTB, it should be ruled out if it could harm or traumatize others. So personally. I'm against a few methods, jumping in front of traffic, train tracks, CO if you live in a shared space (apartment, roommate, etc.), jumping off of a tall building in an area where you know people may be (you could land on one of them, or traumatize them). This is a pro-choice forum, but these other people would be losing their choice to die or they may be traumatized.

 

[alltoomuch2]

No , I dont.

Too many to block. Ignoring is probably wise as I keep arguing back and getting nowhere


Plenty of people in the world want to live and I need to protect as many people as I can , including people close to me. We're in the minority on here whether you like it or not. Most people try to avoid death.

There's people controlling me and I have to die to save others. My method could put people at risk but will try my best not to.

You ok? What's happening?

 

[ferrie]

You've really been escalating a lot the past few days

 

[alltoomuch2]

It must be very frightening to hear those voices and they are trying to control you. What are you doing right now? Can you ignore them now?

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Unfortunately, there are dangerous people everywhere and this site is no exception to that. People here aren't fully pro choice, they still have a criteria here for who should be eligible for death. The only unconditional pro choice user here is @FuneralCry

 

[keg-ireland]

Noone on here or off here is try to control you. Its very clear you are having many psychosis episodes and the worst part is that you will never see that nor believe that.

Your psychosis can be treated. Please see a Doctor and tell them the same things you've been telling us and let them diagnose you.

I wish you well.

 

[annxietty]

Unfortunately, there are dangerous people everywhere and this site is no exception to that. People here aren't fully pro choice, they still have a criteria here for who should be eligible for death. The only unconditional pro choice user here is @FuneralCry

This person is clearly going through some kind of psychosis, they think people are working against him to kill many people and the only way to prevent this is killing themselves, I dont know much about their story, but I saw a previous post from them saying they did decipher a message sent to them with the location and time to kill themselves so they could protect their family. They post this and you expect us to be like "oh thank you so much for protecting us! good luck with your method!" ?? I get why so many people is concerned and trying to help them see reality, and I think thats the opposite from dangerous, many people here (myself included) dont judge others for their reasons to commit suicide, everyone suffers in their own way, but if we see someone obviously going through some kind of psychotic episode that could put their own life or other people's lives in danger then of course we are going to try to change their mind. The world is not black or white, good or bad, etc.

I hope the person that posted this finds peace, the way to find it is sadly something I dont know, but I really hope everyone finds peace either living or dying, just be careful who you hurt, and consider that dying is definitive, this of course depends on your beliefs (and I respect that) tho.

 

[22yrsandnowshesgone]

hi which country r u in ? it sounds like ur ready friend , and random people do not need to suffer, i understand the impulse , but maybe i can help u ?

 

[wyo777]

This person is clearly going through some kind of psychosis, they think people are working against him to kill many people and the only way to prevent this is killing themselves, I dont know much about their story, but I saw a previous post from them saying they did decipher a message sent to them with the location and time to kill themselves so they could protect their family. They post this and you expect us to be like "oh thank you so much for protecting us! good luck with your method!" ?? I get why so many people is concerned and trying to help them see reality, and I think thats the opposite from dangerous, many people here (myself included) dont judge others for their reasons to commit suicide, everyone suffers in their own way, but if we see someone obviously going through some kind of psychotic episode that could put their own life or other people's lives in danger then of course we are going to try to change their mind. The world is not black or white, good or bad, etc.

I hope the person that posted this finds peace, the way to find it is sadly something I dont know, but I really hope everyone finds peace either living or dying, just be careful who you hurt, and consider that dying is definitive, this of course depends on your beliefs (and I respect that) tho.

Of course, if CTB is Your own decision and it does not involve innocent people then Yours reasons are Yours. I got my own opinion about young people doing that, specialy because when they broke up with partner. I am finding it as mistake but it is not for me to judge. But when it looks that this CBT involves innocent people to die, then is no longer about reasons or no reasons. This is red alarm.

 

[thenamingofcats]

Sure some people may be harmed or die when I end it. But it will save many more.

Just casually brushing off the fact that you might kill/harm people while also claiming that people here have no conscious.

 

[Kapsyl]

Thank you. Finally someone with sense that all people have an OBLIGATION to suicide

Yes. That's the whole point of this website. All people must die

It's really not through, why would there be a recovery section if the whole point were to encourage ctb. I know you and several other members dream would be to change the recovery section to instead push and encourage ctb with your moral superiority. Which is contradictory since it would require you to be alive, tuff luck I guess

 

[Z-A]

I don't think it's true people will have to die within 20 years. Humans will certainly be able to stop aging and death by then. Who will have access to it is another matter for society to deal with.

As for people being dangerous, this is a forum for people with mental ill health. None of us here is in good mental shape.

How can you be so certain about something that has no legitimate relevance in today's world?

Also, why are you speaking for everyone and labeling them as mentally ill just because they're suicidal? The majority of people here are rationally aware of what they want and have their own philosophical beliefs. Who are we to say that everyone here has a mental illness just because they desire death?

Unfortunately, there are dangerous people everywhere and this site is no exception to that. People here aren't fully pro choice, they still have a criteria here for who should be eligible for death. The only unconditional pro choice user here is @FuneralCry

FuneralCry has numerous pro-death posts where they express hatred for those who love life or believe that life is beautiful. Almost all of their posts claim that only death and eternal non-existence are beautiful. They push their beliefs onto others and resent those who are more inclined towards life, even having issues with the recovery section.

Pro-choice literally means respecting everyone's opinions, including the positive aspects of life, which the user you mentioned does not respect at all.

 

[timetodie24]

Just casually brushing off the fact that you might kill/harm people while also claiming that people here have no conscious.

But my aim is to save people. My death will save many people. My method (jump in front of lorry/truck) could put others at risk, I don't take that lightly. But I don't get to choose the method as those in control do. I must comply to save people. I will do everything I can to ensure no one else is hurt but it is a possibility. If I do it carefully, planned and follow all the messages I got, then no one else will get hurt. Yes people could be traumatised but will minimise it and nothing I can do to completely prevent it.

Fuck off. Suicide is a moral OBLIGATION because life sucks.

why do you care what others do ? Once your dead why does it matter. If you feel obliged to do it, that's your choice. But plenty others enjoy life mostly. Just as no one should be forced to live if suffering, no one should be forced to die .

You've already debated your extremist views in your own thread. So please don't keep debating here when it's not even relevant to the discussion. Your entitled to your views, you are not entitled to decide for everyone else.

 

[ghostdog]

dude go to doctor if you have psychosis or paranoia , this is not website about mass murder or some kind of dick shooters , just kill only yourself and you will see nobody is controlling you

 

[timetodie24]

dude go to doctor if you have psychosis or paranoia , this is not website about mass murder or some kind of dick shooters , just kill only yourself and you will see nobody is controlling you

I'm not shooting or murdering anyone at all
I am going to save people. All i meant is my ctb method could inadvertently put others at risk like many methods do.
I explained above

my aim is to save people. My death will save many people. My method (jump in front of lorry/truck) could put others at risk, I don't take that lightly. But I don't get to choose the method as those in control do. I must comply to save people. I will do everything I can to ensure no one else is hurt but it is a possibility. If I do it carefully, planned and follow all the messages I got, then no one else will get hurt. Yes people could be traumatised but will minimise it and nothing I can do to completely prevent it.

 

[Tesha]

Just as no one should be forced to live if suffering, no one should be forced to die .

Please reread what you yourself wrote. "No one should be forced to die" - that includes you by the voices controlling you, or the innocent people that may get involved in the 'wider plan'.