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Why is the media acting like coronavirus is such a big deal?

There are 320 million Americans. It hasn't even killed one in a million Americans yet. American death toll is below 250 at the time I made this OP.

And the media is comparing it to the Spanish flu. In a few days, they'll probably be comparing it to the bubonic plague.

Seriously, there were 12,000 deaths in America from the swine flu, and that didn't cause even 1% as much of a scare as coronavirus is causing.
 
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LOL yeah, I sincerely grieve with those who have lost loved ones to the virus, but seriously...
I'm fucking annoyed at how much people are freaking out about this. There is so much hysteria.
If anything, people will get sick from all the stress they are causing themselves by worrying about it.

I work as a grocery stocker, and today a customer wiped down her whole grocery cart to make sure she would be alright.
 
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Somebody is trying to make money out of it...
Or to make a crisis and make the money out of it...
Or to make money on those who tried to make money on crisis...
Or want the markets to fall to buy some cheap stocks.
I expected the crisis at the end of 2019, it came a bit later, but it is not yet the crisis we can face.
 
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Well it was a big thing in china and it's being even worse in europe. Italy is turning into a mass graveyard. 5K deaths in little more than a month. What makes this virus fucked up to contain is how fast and easily it spreads. It's very easy to get infected. Let's see how things turn out in the next months.
I'm currently in quarentine, which is basically a simple continuation of how my life had been for the past 10 years, except now i don't have to go to university.
 
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Well it was a big thing in china and it's being even worse in europe. Italy is turning into a mass graveyard. 5K deaths in little more than a month. What makes this virus fucked up to contain is how fast and easily it spreads. It's very easy to get infected. Let's see how things turn out in the next months.
I'm currently in quarentine, which is basically a simple continuation of how my life had been for the past 10 years, except now i don't have to go to university.

For some reason the last part of your post cracked me up.

I didn't know it's 5k deaths in a little more than a month. That's crazy.
 
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I think ppl are freaking out not bc of it's lethality, but bc of it's transmission. Apparently it's super easy to catch it, so their fear is not the death of the population like some sort of plague, but a mass contamination (mostly of old ppl) that could fill up the hospitals to it's limits and cause some sort of health system crisis (at least thats the fear in my country). They fear more ppl could be infected than the hospitals can handle so they're super worried abt the transmissions. I think it's fair enough. I'm not scared of catching it, but if I transmitted it to my gramma, for example, it could kill her.
 
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I think ppl are freaking out not bc of it's lethality, but bc of it's transmission. Apparently it's super easy to catch it, so their fear is not the death of the population like some sort of plague, but a mass contamination (mostly of old ppl) that could fill up the hospitals to it's limits and cause some sort of health system crisis (at least thats the fear in my country). They fear more ppl could be infected than the hospitals can handle so they're super worried abt the transmissions. I think it's fair enough. I'm not scared of catching it, but if I transmitted it to my gramma, for example, it could kill her.
Good point...
 
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Maybe they are not telling us something ?
By tomorrow this will have surpassed the 12,000 swine flu ended at and with all the "precautions" it hasn't finished yet not by a long chalk ,
So i would hardly say it's not a big deal , especialy to the families of the 4.032 italians .
it's just the general public who are acting like fooking morons .
 
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Jessica5

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Well it was a big thing in china and it's being even worse in europe. Italy is turning into a mass graveyard. 5K deaths in little more than a month. What makes this virus fucked up to contain is how fast and easily it spreads. It's very easy to get infected. Let's see how things turn out in the next months.
I'm currently in quarentine, which is basically a simple continuation of how my life had been for the past 10 years, except now i don't have to go to university.


The death toll in China was 3,248. China's population is over 1.4 billion.

That death toll in such a huge nation is statistically irrelevant.
Maybe they are not telling us something ?
By tomorrow this will have surpassed the 12,000 swine flu ended at and with all the "precautions" it hasn't finished yet not by a long chalk ,
So i would hardly say it's not a big deal , especialy to the families of the 4.032 italians .
it's just the general public who are acting like fooking morons .

12,000 was the US death toll from the swine flu. The worldwide death toll was well into the 6 figures.
 
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Not a big deal seriously look at the size of Italy it killed thousands in such a small country. I'm in ireland its killed 3 people over 600 infected and last time I checked there where 6 in a critical condition. These are innocent people they dont want to die. So I dont think anyone is over reacting here its a serious illnesses that could literally wipe a nation. No innocent people should die most here do want to die but I highly doubt the thousands that did want to die!
 
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The transmission rate is 1 infect can transmit to 2 others. So, 50/60-80%. Presuming it's 50%, and the death rate is 2% from the ChinaCDC, then that'd result in about 1% of american's dead. About 5x the amount of american's killed by cancer in 2018 if I remember correctly. It isn't apocalypse worthy by any means. 1% is about 3,318,840 out of 331,883,986. Worthy enough to definitely warrant focus from the medical community's, but not enough for full on lock downs. Somewhat around 400,000-don't feel like rounding-below last year's count of american's born. 80% of cases are mild, tons are non-symptomatic. Asian countries would be so insignificantly effected by this, it wouldn't even matter. For America it is more... problematic, but still not devastation worthy.
 
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I totally agree and I am glad you brought up the swine flue because back when the swine flue or bird flue was a thing they didn´t make such a great deal out of it, I was out grocery shopping yesterday and there are tape on the floor telling you to stand this far from people and the cashiers have set up a plastic screen and most places you can´t pay with cash oh and when you enter the stores there are hand sanitizer and gloves to use and the pharmacy I was at yesterday was close only the side entrance was open it´s where you can only walk in one at a time and it took 5 minutes per person I waited like 20-30 minutes only to get told they hadn´t got my prescription and I should come back tomorrow.

I can´t wait till this shit is over everyone is acting like it´s the plague and the one thing I have to look forward to is shooting at the gunclub twice a month but of course that has been closed too so now I get no social interaction at all and feel like I am being bored to death, I feel like the universe hates me.
 
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Does anyone know if once you've recovered from the virus... Can you get infected again?
 
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The rate of transmission and severity of the virus for a significant percent is staggering. For example, if you compare the % hospitalized to the % hospitalized in the US per year for the flu, this virus would put 5.5 million people in the hospital (flu hospitalization rate 2%, this is 20%). Health system simply can't handle that. Efforts are in place not even to keep people from getting it, just slow it down to less overwhelm the health system.
 
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There are more than 40 million of people in my country and it only killed 3 people so far...
 
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There are more than 40 million of people in my country and it only killed 3 people so far...

So your country is late to the party , i wonder how many there would be if the world wide precautions /panic had not happened and every one just went about their normal business , ignoring it as just flu ?
 
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The transmission rate is 1 infect can transmit to 2 others. So, 50/60-80%. Presuming it's 50%, and the death rate is 2% from the ChinaCDC, then that'd result in about 1% of american's dead. About 5x the amount of american's killed by cancer in 2018 if I remember correctly. It isn't apocalypse worthy by any means. 1% is about 3,318,840 out of 331,883,986. Worthy enough to definitely warrant focus from the medical community's, but not enough for full on lock downs. Somewhat around 400,000-don't feel like rounding-below last year's count of american's born. 80% of cases are mild, tons are non-symptomatic. Asian countries would be so insignificantly effected by this, it wouldn't even matter. For America it is more... problematic, but still not devastation worthy.
It is a good post. Congratulations.
I do not know the data. US Average age people. I am not sure which country has that rate lower.
I am not sure but chineses are young than mostly european country. Today Italy has around 8% , Spain around 5%, France around 4%.
From 60 years old death rate increases.
 
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It is a good post. Congratulations.
I do not know the data. US Average age people. I am not sure which country has that rate lower.
I am not sure but chineses are young than mostly european country. Today Italy has around 8% , Spain around 5%, France around 4%.
From 60 years old death rate increases.
My brother often repeats that it would only likely infect people 50's and above, and that it doesn't matter for us lmfao. I didn't know that though, nice. About 34% of the US is over 50. I really only know the statistics because of paranoia :ahhha:.
 
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My brother often repeats that it would only likely infect people 50's and above, and that it doesn't matter for us lmfao. I didn't know that though, nice. About 34% of the US is over 50. I really only know the statistics because of paranoia :ahhha:.

What a brother. lol. Watch your back!.
 
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any%

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May 2, 2019
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Most of you here are talking out of your a**, sorry to be so blunt. The only thing to fear is the lack of fear itself. Before you all spread this nonsense, get yourself educated in some basic epidemiology and try to understand how logistical growth works. For the uneducated this may suffice, it is a very nice video and kept simple:


The other article I would highly recommend is: https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2020/03/a-covid-19-coronavirus-update-from-concerned-physicians.html

But please dont spread stupidity if you are not even able to research information properly and try to read the whole article (might be a challenge for some). All the people saying sh*t like: "We only have xy infected people and only xy died so far", "Other infection events (like swine flu, bird flu etc.) in the past also resulted in deaths, so this is nothing special, ridiculous that they make such a fuss about it", "It only infects elderly people" etc. are not only uneducated about this topic but also show it to the whole world by freely stating these things in the public, forums, personal discussions etc. and are the reason SARS-Cov2 will flourish like plants in spring.

Just the title alone is driving me mad. "Corona obsession". You belittle this very serious topic and not taking this seriously will be the downfall to a certain extent. In Italy hundreds of people die every day and faster than they can cremate them. They need the military to transport all these corpses. And the other countries with less cases and deaths are not better off. They are simply dragging behind if we are not taking this situation seriously and try to minimize the spread by modulating the 3 major factors:

1) Infectionprobability of a given contact between individuals
-> can be modulated by coughing rules, hand hygiene, physical distance 1-2m (for all you imperials out there: 3.2 - 6.5 feet) especially to obviously ill people and/or elderly people or people with respiratory symptoms,protective clothing and masks primarily for medical personnel (not for private use)

2) Number of contacts per time unit
-> can be modulated by immediate isolation of confirmed ill people, quarantine of people suspected of being infectious, social distancing (!!!), no social events such as meetings in parks, sports games, weddings, parties etc.

3) Duration of transmission
-> Isolation of confirmed Covid-19 cases

We are all in this together, this is not a hoax, this is not an attempt to suppress the common people or to implement a new order (god, these conspiracy idiots are driving me so mad, everything seems to revolve around them).

@memataporfavor @Darkhaven @marcusuk63 @AcornUnderground You people give me hope that people are not that stupid after all!

@Jessica5 You are one of the people who are a big part of the problem. You look at numbers and state things like "statistically irrelevant" yet I bet you dont even know what that means, plus it is just a stupid perspective on the situation. Educate yourself, take the numbers and do the math yourself. Educate yourself about basic virology before you spit out harmful statements that many people will agree with like the copycats they are and ultimately will make this outbreak worse than it could be if we act together. Please, please watch the video I have linked here and read the article. I beg you, it is never too late to learn and change!
 
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Why is the media acting like coronavirus is such a big deal?

There are 320 million Americans. It hasn't even killed one in a million Americans yet. American death toll is below 250 at the time I made this OP.

And the media is comparing it to the Spanish flu. In a few days, they'll probably be comparing it to the bubonic plague.

Seriously, there were 12,000 deaths in America from the swine flu, and that didn't cause even 1% as much of a scare as coronavirus is causing.
COVID-19 is simply a more infectious and less deadly flu. The media makes it a huge deal because of either...

1. Of what has happened in China, and not realizing it only kills elderly, kids, and those with compromised immune systems

2. They're overreacting like everyone else

Or what I believe:

3. Profit from the chaos and, for all the conspiracy theorists, distract from undergoing government projects and actions, such as removing end-you-end encryption, which means nothing, I mean nothing, will be private anymore.

Anyways, that's me, hope this is good enough.
 
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any%

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COVID-19 is simply a more infectious and less deadly flu. The media makes it a huge deal because of either...

1. Of what has happened in China, and not realizing it only kills elderly, kids, and those with compromised immune systems

2. They're overreacting like everyone else

Or what I believe:

3. Profit from the chaos and, for all the conspiracy theorists, distract from undergoing government projects and actions, such as removing end-you-end encryption, which means nothing, I mean nothing, will be private anymore.

Anyways, that's me, hope this is good enough.

What is wrong with you? Within the risk group it is way more deadly than the commun flu. Overreacting like everyone else? These are the kind of idiots I was talking about. And how the f*** do they wanna profit from it? It will cost a shit ton of money. People cant work, people dont consume and buy sh*t because everything is closing down. And I am not even talking about how much all the medical care will cost and the research and subsequent production, distribution and application of vaccine candidates. How blind are you?

Again, read instead of just babbling: https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2020/03/a-covid-19-coronavirus-update-from-concerned-physicians.html

COVID-v-flu.png
 
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Most of you here are talking out of your a**, sorry to be so blunt. The only thing to fear is the lack of fear itself. Before you all spread this nonsense, get yourself educated in some basic epidemiology and try to understand how logistical growth works. For the uneducated this may suffice, it is a very nice video and kept simple:


The other article I would highly recommend is: https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2020/03/a-covid-19-coronavirus-update-from-concerned-physicians.html

But please dont spread stupidity if you are not even able to research information properly and try to read the whole article (might be a challenge for some). All the people saying sh*t like: "We only have xy infected people and only xy died so far", "Other infection events (like swine flu, bird flu etc.) in the past also resulted in deaths, so this is nothing special, ridiculous that they make such a fuss about it", "It only infects elderly people" etc. are not only uneducated about this topic but also show it to the whole world by freely stating these things in the public, forums, personal discussions etc. and are the reason SARS-Cov2 will flourish like plants in spring.

Just the title alone is driving me mad. "Corona obsession". You belittle this very serious topic and not taking this seriously will be the downfall to a certain extent. In Italy hundreds of people die every day and faster than they can cremate them. They need the military to transport all these corpses. And the other countries with less cases and deaths are not better off. They are simply dragging behind if we are not taking this situation seriously and try to minimize the spread by modulating the 3 major factors:

1) Infectionprobability of a given contact between individuals
-> can be modulated by coughing rules, hand hygiene, physical distance 1-2m (for all you imperials out there: 3.2 - 6.5 feet) especially to obviously ill people and/or elderly people or people with respiratory symptoms,protective clothing and masks primarily for medical personnel (not for private use)

2) Number of contacts per time unit
-> can be modulated by immediate isolation of confirmed ill people, quarantine of people suspected of being infectious, social distancing (!!!), no social events such as meetings in parks, sports games, weddings, parties etc.

3) Duration of transmission
-> Isolation of confirmed Covid-19 cases

We are all in this together, this is not a hoax, this is not an attempt to suppress the common people or to implement a new order (god, these conspiracy idiots are driving me so mad, everything seems to revolve around them).

@memataporfavor @Darkhaven @marcusuk63 @AcornUnderground You people give me hope that people are not that stupid after all!

@Jessica5 You are one of the people who are a big part of the problem. You look at numbers and state things like "statistically irrelevant" yet I bet you dont even know what that means, plus it is just a stupid perspective on the situation. Educate yourself, take the numbers and do the math yourself. Educate yourself about basic virology before you spit out harmful statements that many people will agree with like the copycats they are and ultimately will make this outbreak worse than it could be if we act together. Please, please watch the video I have linked here and read the article. I beg you, it is never too late to learn and change!

Although I haven't yet studied those materials you posted (only just finished reading your post), I don't know why your reply is so angry......
The simple fact is that a lot of people don't understand what the issues are, and why certain measures are needed.
Perhaps the world health organisation could have done a better job in creating a simple to follow website that everyone can refer to, for better understanding, and google could have helped out by ensuring that appears first in search results....
 
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Why is the media acting like coronavirus is such a big deal?

There are 320 million Americans. It hasn't even killed one in a million Americans yet. American death toll is below 250 at the time I made this OP.

And the media is comparing it to the Spanish flu. In a few days, they'll probably be comparing it to the bubonic plague.

Seriously, there were 12,000 deaths in America from the swine flu, and that didn't cause even 1% as much of a scare as coronavirus is causing.
yeah the reason why is that the government is taking Extreme Measures. If the government didn't then the death rate would be much higher.
Also we are still in the beginning stages.
 
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LOL yeah, I sincerely grieve with those who have lost loved ones to the virus, but seriously...
I'm fucking annoyed at how much people are freaking out about this. There is so much hysteria.
If anything, people will get sick from all the stress they are causing themselves by worrying about it.

I work as a grocery stocker, and today a customer wiped down her whole grocery cart to make sure she would be alright.
You are right! People will get sick from all the panicking, fear and stress! Stress makes me quite ill. The more stressed one is, they could potentially lower their immune system, and get ill. :notsure::aw::sick:
 
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any%

Student
May 2, 2019
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Although I haven't yet studied those materials you posted (only just finished reading your post), I don't know why your reply is so angry......
The simple fact is that a lot of people don't understand what the issues are, and why certain measures are needed.
Perhaps the world health organisation could have done a better job in creating a simple to follow website that everyone can refer to, for better understanding, and google could have helped out by ensuring that appears first in search results....

Please read the material and watch the video! My reply is so angry, because the ignorance of people has the potential to make this situation so much worse within the next months while at the same time they feel so smart and superior, because they think they found yet another conspiracy. We are organisms that think in a linear matter. That is why these kind of growths are not so familiart to us. But instead of researching and read articles of experts and listen to them, people open their mouths about things they dont have the slightest knowledge about. That is why I am angry. Because as long as you are not within the risk group, you wont get punished for your irresponsible behaviour, but others will.
 
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Oct 13, 2019
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Swine flu killed 1/5000 people infected. This kills about 1/50. If it ends up infecting 60M people in the US like swine flu did, it's going to kill over a million of them.

We're early in the game currently. It took about a year to collect those stats last time. We're a couple of weeks in so far and the numbers are growing exponentially.
 
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What is wrong with you? Within the risk group it is way more deadly than the commun flu. Overreacting like everyone else? These are the kind of idiots I was talking about. And how the f*** do they wanna profit from it? It will cost a shit ton of money. People cant work, people dont consume and buy sh*t because everything is closing down. And I am not even talking about how much all the medical care will cost and the research and subsequent production, distribution and application of vaccine candidates. How blind are you?

Again, read instead of just babbling: https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2020/03/a-covid-19-coronavirus-update-from-concerned-physicians.html

COVID-v-flu.png
I am simply taking from what sources I have. Fuck, this is why I don't answer things late at night. I'm sorry, my friend. I'll stay silent and continue learning from what others say. I guess I'm not informed enough to answer these things, and my thoughts must be mixing up. Again, I'm sorry.
 
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