Consequences of suicide in the afterlife/religion

[galaxyencrypted]

I've always had an immense amount of religious anxiety. I've wanted to do this but the fear of the unknown is so strong. shit like this consumes me. any thoughts or advice?

 

[symphony]

If Hell is real then I'm going there anyways, suicide or natural death.

 

[EndlessDream]

I grew up in an extremely religious family where they believe in hell/heaven. I began to be an athiest from around 13-14. I think the chance of heaven/hell is non-zero and that anything is possible. I'm willing to risk it because I don't really believe in it strongly. I think it'll just be black and nothing. This concept would be hard to understand for anyone, including myself.

I find religion is something that people have used throughout time to justify not killing themselves and have hope.

It might've been part of the the false hope that really drove humanity and success, let that be conquest of religions and spreading the ideas, despite religions being false in reality to me.

Religious ideas often promote prolife sentiments and especially Abrahamic religions (Christianity/Islam/Judaism) promote reproduction and spread of its religious ideas.
These ideas are often enough to justify not killing yourself and be afraid of the afterlife if you do.

People who believe in no religion, to me are more correct and in line with reality, BUT that means the will to live and reproduce is less.

In other words, even incorrect beliefs can lead to confidence and more chance of reproduction, compared to athiests who have less propensity to spread athiestic ideas and reproduce.

Religion to me is part of evolution and Darwinism. Simply, people who are religious are more likely to survive because of its beliefs, not that religion itself is correct.

People are who are less religious, care less about surviving and are less likely to reproduce, hence we only have so many athiests and non-believers in the world.

As an athiest, I'm fulfilling that role as well as I don't fear death as much as a thiest.

Religion also seems to be a major part of survival instinct.

If I was more religious, I'd be more afraid of death, less likely to CTB and reproduce, and spread those religious ideas on.

 

[tirednorthernsoul]

I was raised Catholic. No longer practicing/part of the church, but the fear of ctb and what awaits in the afterlife is definitely an anxiety that has crossed my mind…

 

[oneeyed]

Been close to death once, no interviews with bearded dudes or horned men with goat legs yet. Was raised catholic, eventually just stopped believing as I got older. Although, how awesome would it be if it was like the show "The Good Place"? I want a "Janet" hanging around.

 

[RW__Asher23]

My faith was big issue until I talked to my pastor and a religious scholar both explaining the issue of suicide in our faith and when it will and Wont send you to unpleasant place. Ex: you want to escape your life because it sucks and is not what you want it to be and you are ok with just throwing in the towel and die by your own hand . Selfishness not being ill mentally or physically but just because you don't like this world and rather than try to make the best of what you got because you are not ill or mentally sick then if you commit suicide you are not going to like where that goes. Also if you kill someone through hate , passion , etc. and then kill yourself you will also NOT like what happens after you die. But on the other hand if your life has been filled with illness mental or physical and painful emotionally and physically and you have done all there is for a mortal person to do to fix it medically , psych, counseling, seeking out new medicines to treat fatal diseases cancer heart liver and so on and none of that has worked and you continue with emotional mental physical distress beyond that which any mortal being should have to endure. And at the end you simply ask him forgive me I have done all I can and it is beyond anything I can do now . End life. He will in turn know and forgive. You will be happy. Finding Peace
But that is MY Faith. I do not know what your faith teaches you about this. We have cleared up most of this in our faith and many suicidal people go for the wrong reasons. But Again according to my faith. I will be gone few months but text doesn't show you or tell you my pain and torment. I can only say I have faith and will ask that you find the peace you are looking for and your suffering will be at an end and Peace will find you. Good Luck and rest in peace if that is what you do. No matter what your choice. RIP Or Find Peace here. I wish you the best you can have either way. Peace.

 

[Parting Sorrow]

I've been an atheist for many years, my entire adulthood, but I remember when I was teenager the thought of going to Hell for eternity for suicide terrified me. I am someone that doesn't ever remember dreams and not even sure if I do dream in general really. The one dream I've had in my life I remember still today is a Hell dream. Freeing myself from that was incredibly impactful on my life.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I'm so annoyed because ages ago, I saw a YouTube video that really helped me on this and try as I might- I haven't been able to find it since.

I mostly am leaning towards atheism now- although I also come from a family who have strong ideas on religion. Specifically that suicides go to hell or purgatory or whatever.

Anyhow- this YouTube video explained that- way back in the day- peasants doing all the back breaking labour in the fields were reassured with the idea that their reward would come in heaven. It got to a point though- where a number of them decided to take the short cut and kill themselves. This notion of suicides going to hell perhaps came about as a deterrent to this. I mean- it makes sense. Maybe the prophets were salt of the earth people but I expect the ones that came later- that interpreted them were of the ruling classes. They needed to keep their workforce intact.

I don't know which religion you are influenced by but I think there are references to suicide in the bible, with no mention of hell. I just think organised religions make more sense if they were/are in fact manmade. They very conveniently align with and reinforce many of the social laws we have. That includes being prohibited from removing yourself and all your future tax money from the system!

 

[Somber]

I've always had an immense amount of religious anxiety. I've wanted to do this but the fear of the unknown is so strong. shit like this consumes me. any thoughts or advice?

Which religion do you feel anxious about?

 

[Mr Myemna]

I've always had an immense amount of religious anxiety. I've wanted to do this but the fear of the unknown is so strong. shit like this consumes me. any thoughts or advice?

well i can't deny this but i argue that a deity who uses fear mongering and coercion to get his way within individual beings couldn't do that and be universally fair in the same time.

since you started existing at some point you've had something before that, you had your non-existent status; the being who takes that away from you can't possibly be fair in condemning you for wanting back something you've had for an eternity before you, you didn't sign up for his bs game, so you're under no fundamental obligation to follow through with it.

and since an unfair god can't be denied, no version of it deserves the worry you give to it. if he's unfair then it's possible he'll condemn you for the widest range of bs reasons, like being an ethnicity he doesn't favor, acting in a certain manner in reaction to the conditions he made possible. just like it is possible that he favors you for some other bs reason in the same manner.

if we try to conceive a fair deity then he probably doesn't condemn anyone, most choices made by humans are a result of a converging set of variables that are hardly influence by any moral compass, because the set of values you have are determined by your genetic expression through your environment. if he wants a certain ideal of human behavior to persist after mortal existence ceases to be then he would most likely just teach people, he has the uttermost access to knowledge to the human psych he can easily simulate for problematic being the conditions that helps them be as he sees best for them.

PS: i propose for those of you who still would like to carry on a better model of faith, one not based on coercion but on willingness to engage, to freely associate with its ins and outs, one that fosters hope, without eating away at our humanity. A model of faith that removes shackles rather than make them

 

[FuneralCry]

There are no negative consequences of suicide, as I believe that any afterlife or religion is just a fictional concept. The type of people who push these ideas are those who are unable to come to terms with the true meaningless and insignifcant nature of this existence where we are destined to completely cease existing with not even the awareness of the fact that we are dead. There is no point to fearing something so inevitable as death and there is no evidence to suggest that such a thing as an afterlife even exists.

 

[Anonymus10469]

In Christianity and Islam is one of the worst sins because the life is a gift from the Lord and He is the owner of our lifes, only He can decide when our lifes finish.

Non ci sono conseguenze negative del suicidio, poiché credo che qualsiasi aldilà o religione sia solo un concetto immaginario. Il tipo di persone che promuovono queste idee sono quelle che non sono in grado di venire a patti con la vera natura priva di significato e insignificante di questa esistenza in cui siamo destinati a cessare completamente di esistere senza nemmeno la consapevolezza del fatto che siamo morti. Non ha senso temere qualcosa di così inevitabile come la morte e non ci sono prove che suggeriscano che esista una cosa come l'aldilà.

For me it makes more sense than an explosion from the Void and a life created in the sea we do not how. Please turn to Christ and He'll make you and all the people in this site happy again

Se l'inferno è reale allora ci andrò lo stesso, suicidio o morte naturale.

Convert and you will not go to Hell because He is merciful.

 

[sickbeyondmeasure]

This is my biggest fear but NDE tell me otherwise

 

[leavingsoon99]

I look at it this way...

Whatever is awaiting in the afterlife is inevitable. It's going to happen regardless. I have a hard time attaching the imagined consequence system made up by a race of hairless apes to the way the universe actually works. If it IS true, then I'm not going to so-called 'heaven' anyway. Nor do I want to. Since 'hell' means separation from a so-called 'god', I'd be more than happy to be separated from whatever created this monstrosity of an existence in the first place. So, whether I die here by my own hand or in some human-approved way of dying, what comes after may or may not be in my control. I can't worry about it.