Concerns about SN in UK

[SomeRandomThing]

So after some more digging and research, I think I've settled now on the method of Sodium Nitrate. I know this topic has come up a few times, but I have a specific set of questions and thoughts, so I hope it's okay to post.

The websites that seem to sell it in the UK always have disclaimers, suggesting that they can only deliver to educational institutes, businesses and registered charities. If anyone has any other method to get SN, please reach out to me. Alternatively, I can perhaps look on the dark web to see if I can source it from there, but if anyone can help, that would be appreciated.

Furthermore, I've seen a few posts that suggest that police do random welfare checks if they catch residential households ordering the stuff. I was thinking that when I order it, I can order it to my own address, but with an incorrect, different name. Then if the police every come to the door, I can claim that I have no knowledge of it. If they give me the name, I can say that they don't live here, or I can even say that it didn't have my name on it, so I posted it back to be returned to the sender. That should clear me, hopefully?

I've seen suggestions that a combination of other pills should be taken to prevent vomiting and a few other things, so I'll follow those suggestions to for the most part, this is more just about how to obtain SN and how to claim ignorance if the police ever come to my door.

My aim is also to go over the recommended dosages that I'm seeing, as well as to have another one on standby in the hopefully unlikely event that I wake up, so that I can take another dose. Is there any issues with taking more than the suggested amounts? Would it increase risk of vomiting etc?

Thank you in advance again to anyone who reads and gives their thoughts here.

 

[intothec]

They might get it stopped at post office like mine though
Trying to get it delivered after it said retained for delivery

 

[Argonus]

Why do people want to use SN method still? It seems to have higher chances of going wrong before even receiving the SN itself than for example inert gas method.

 

[polarcrow_]

Why do people want to use SN method still? It seems to have higher chances of going wrong before even receiving the SN itself than for example inert gas method.

for me anyways it's the SI and access to inert gas. Easier to hide a small 100g baggie over a large 600l canister + Canisters being much much harder to buy if you aren't a business (at least from my research). Once it's swallowed (other than being found or calling an ambulance yourself) there's very little to be done if you freak out compared to gas where you can just pull your head out even if SN technically takes longer.

Also the whole thing of I'd definitely prefer to be found just peacefully lying in bed watching a movie vs having a black bag taped round my neck with a whole gas canister tube setup next to me, it feels like it'd be less traumatic for the person finding the body, too.

 

[SomeRandomThing]

I still feel that SN will be the way to go, I've spent a bunch of time looking online this morning to see if I can locate it anywhere, but still struggling to find a reputable, discreet source.

 

[lucyanne]

I still feel that SN will be the way to go, I've spent a bunch of time looking online this morning to see if I can locate it anywhere, but still struggling to find a reputable, discreet source.

I feel like there are a few of us struggling with sourcing currently

 

[imOK]

large 600l canister

These canisters are pretty small, all you really need is a 2l cannister. You have to imagine the gas is compressed in there so while the volume is 2l it's actually 400l uncompressed, the gas is in there compressed, usually to 200 times of the normal atmosphere. Basically a physical zip file. That's why they're so thick and look like that, to be able to keep that pressure. These containers are used for welding but at that size they're used mostly in making foodstuff, e.g. beer. It's usually the 20l ones that are used for welding and yeah, they're big and expensive.

You then equip the canister so that the gas comes out at a specific flow rate, and not all at once (which would be pointless and probably just shoot the exit bag off your head and across the room like a popped balloon). I apologize if you already knew like this and I came in and pointed the obvious out like some know-it-all but from reading this forum in the last month I got the impression that there's quite a bit confusion about that because people bring up "400l-600l" as being these huge containers that costs thousands and are hard to get and only sold to businesses. That's not what you need and way too much nitrogen. Such a cannister should cost around a hundred bucks (usually less) and be available pretty much anywhere online including amazon. It's a bit confusing that they sell them as 2l cannisters, but there's actually 400l in there. 2l of nitrogen wouldn't be useful for anything. There's also no chance these will ever be adulterated with oxygen or regulated otherwise, they're just too useful for too many things.

It's my method of choice because ingesting poison and "feeling it work" doesn't sound like something I could overcome with my will and I just know would panic me on an instinct level. If the exit bag is done properly, you just suddenly pass out. People die in industrial accidents like that sometimes. Work one moment, drop dead the next. In such accidents there are often several casualities because coworkers go to the unconcious coworker to help him just to pass out themselves. Anyone reading this does not need to be afraid of that happening to loved ones after you ctb, in any normal room 400l of nitrogen will just disperse in the air. In fact, the air you breathe in right now while you read this is ~78% nitrogen. It's not the nitrogen that kills you (your body hasn't evolved to notice it in any way as it's just been always kinda there and always useless) it's the absence of oxygen that has been displaced by the nitrogen in the bag. You're a machine that evolved to rely on oxygen as primary energy source, especially your brain. If the energy runs out, you simply turn off.

 

[ghost-shock]

Im suspicious of these freshly new accounts all talking about uk sn. Its strange ive seen so many pop up about it recently. Of course i understand the concerns, but im talking about super new accounts particularly talking about uk sn. Ive never seen this happen and definitely havent seen so many new uk users specifiy the uk as much as i have recently. All this happening straight after the ofcom announcement.

 

[SomeRandomThing]

Im suspicious of these freshly new accounts all talking about uk sn. Its strange ive seen so many pop up about it recently. Of course i understand the concerns, but im talking about super new accounts particularly talking about uk sn. Ive never seen this happen and definitely havent seen so many new uk users specifiy the uk as much as i have recently. All this happening straight after the ofcom announcement.

Well, I have been looking for a place like this for a while, but after the recent news coverage that's been around in the UK, it's actually made it easier for me to find this site, and therefore to research methods in more detail, and to ask questions without being censored and moderated. I'm not saying that we're all genuine, but I know I am :)