Communism vs Representative Democracy/Republic

[SchrodingerIsDed]

@Jorvak here this is more accurate to what our discussion was about. Also the polls were all fucked up over on that other thread. Might as well just restart.

Everyone be civil, okay? We're all on the same side being fucked up in the mental brain lobes, so treat each other with kindness and respect. These can be hot-button issues, so if you don't think you can handle it, then please don't post. And it can be emotionally taxing as well, so if you're not in a good headspace maybe just give it a bit. :) It's all love here.

 

[Rymrgand]

This seems like a fake dichotomy. With democracy, you mean a liberal democracy? With communism, you mean a URRSlike dictadorship? Why not a socialist democracy? I feel like there's a middle point between being a slave to Jeff Bezos and an imperialistic and corrupt """dictatorship of the proletariat"""

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Communism is based on an utopic idea of man, it is wishful thinking but in the end nature is always right.
The same with democracy, there are alphas and those who are glad to follow.
Only social darwinism, neo liberalism comes close to a relistic idea of man.

 

[meso]

i used to be an "optimistic anarchist"

so my ideal was like a mix of communism with direct democracy, but several political events and readings made me into a "pessimistic anarchist"

i fear that democracy (even direct) will lead to dictatorship of the majority, or dictatorship of a bureaucratic minority, like many (maybe every) kind of formal organization of society

i fear that "libertarian communism" will be too hard to coordinate, and that the demands of coordination will lead to increased control

i have a hard time thinking about "ideal" social organizations (maybe i'm too asocial/antisocial), even tho "non-organization" is unstable and frankly fearful too, but i crave freedom and i despise control, especially control of the outcasts (which i'm part of), i tend to link many political theories with some variations of eugenism (softer on some sides i guess)

i still consider myself an anarchist so to answer the question of the thread i will favor communism but only if it's not dictatorial (which is rare)

also, i think other variables are at play, like the difference between possible and desirable, the difference between the form (let's say communism) and the content (what kind of life is desirable, a better "quantitative" equality, or a qualitative change in how's life is lived)