Cigarettes

[Willto]

Does cigarettes interfere with SN? Stomach acid and so on? Find it hard to stay away from them..

 

[HerculePoirot]

I don't think it might interfere significantly: SN goes to your stomach, smoke goes to your lungs. Perhaps a slight effect on your heart, nothing serious in the very short term.
I'd say anything that improves your comfort is welcome, provided it doesn't jeopardize the main thing.

 

[𖣴 nadia 𖣴]

Cigarettes have the drug Nicotine, as well as hundreds of other chemicals, in them which could react with the SN so I personally wouldn't risk it.

 

[HerculePoirot]

Cigarettes have the drug Nicotine, as well as hundreds of other chemicals, in them which could react with the SN so I personally wouldn't risk it.

You may be right of course, although I'm not sure a cigarette would really compromise the SN action in the short timeframe of a suicide (assuming the op is a regular smoker). I confess I'm not a qualified expert.

 

[𖣴 nadia 𖣴]

Idk if any of the chemicals would interact with SN either, but when you burn one thousands of chemicals are released so there's a good chance that at least one of those could compromise the SN. Nicotine and the other chemicals can enter the bloodstream within seconds and they take a few hours to a few days to leave the blood, and I don't think death by SN is that fast, it takes around 8 hours or so iirc.

 

[[HNO]]

the most physiologically active components of cigarettes are nicotine and carbon monoxide. nicotine is a stimulant (that's keeps you 'awake) and CO is a substance with hypoxic action that deprives the body tissues from the oxygen by binding with oxygen carrying haemoglobin producing carboxyhemoglobin(СOHb):

"Result: COHb levels in frequent cigarette smokers generally range from 4.2% presmoking to 8.6% postsmoking. A heavy cigarette smoker presented twice with symptoms of CO toxicity and was found to have levels 21.8 to 24.2%. Cigar smokers have been found to have COHb ranging as high as 13.0 to 38.6% in case reports."

as methaemoglobin, a compound similar to COHb in its way of action is a product responsible for SN toxicity a simultaneous action of both cigarette smoke(CO) and SN will possibly be complementary that is toxicity will be more severe if SN ingestion and elevated blood's COHb took place at the same time

 

[𖣴 nadia 𖣴]

the most physiologically active components of cigarettes are nicotine and carbon monoxide. nicotine is a stimulant (that's keeps you 'awake) and CO is a substance with hypoxic action that deprives the body tissues from the oxygen by binding with oxygen carrying haemoglobin producing carboxyhemoglobin(СOHb):

"Result: COHb levels in frequent cigarette smokers generally range from 4.2% presmoking to 8.6% postsmoking. A heavy cigarette smoker presented twice with symptoms of CO toxicity and was found to have levels 21.8 to 24.2%. Cigar smokers have been found to have COHb ranging as high as 13.0 to 38.6% in case reports."

as methaemoglobin, a compound similar to COHb in its way of action is a product responsible for SN toxicity a simultaneous action of both cigarette smoke(CO) and SN will possibly be complementary that is toxicity will be more severe if SN ingestion and elevated blood's COHb took place at the same time

These are the effects of smoking a cigarette on it's own, but we don't know how these and the thousands of others chemicals would interact with SN though.

Nicotine also interacts with beta blockers and benzos so that's another thing to take in to consideration.

"Many interactions between tobacco smoke and medications have been identified. Note that in most cases it is the tobacco smoke—not the nicotine—that causes these drug interactions. Tobacco smoke interacts with medications by influencing the absorption, distribution, metabolism, or elimination of other drugs, potentially causing an altered pharmacologic response. Because of these interactions, smokers may require higher doses of medications."

 

[[HNO]]

These are the effects of smoking a cigarette on it's own, but we don't know how these and the thousands of others chemicals would interact with SN though.

Nicotine also interacts with beta blockers and benzos so that's another thing to take in to consideration.

"Many interactions between tobacco smoke and medications have been identified. Note that in most cases it is the tobacco smoke—not the nicotine—that causes these drug interactions. Tobacco smoke interacts with medications by influencing the absorption, distribution, metabolism, or elimination of other drugs, potentially causing an altered pharmacologic response. Because of these interactions, smokers may require higher doses of medications."

if composition and additive percentage of cigarettes were given by manufactures it'd be possible to assume how they would interact with SN. but since (on paper) cigarette manufacturers comply to permissible concentrations for any toxic substance in cigarette composition their amount should be set to low i.e low enough to prevent severe poisoning and death after having a smoke so their interaction with sn is probaly insignificant due to concentration. also most organic additive compounds are oxidized to CO/CO2 while burning and only fraction turns in complex physiologically active compounds as in gasoline burning for example

 

[Life_and_Death]

I don't think death by SN is that fast, it takes around 8 hours or so iirc.

i thought i read in several places it only takes a few mins to half an hour. for basically any method (except for cutting/bleeding out or the gas methods because i dont know them) anything over an hour is just reassurance you wont be interrupted

 

[👁️👃👁️]

Look I'm willing to give up a lot of different things but I'm not giving up my cigarettes and I will be having a cigarette after the salty cup

Idk if any of the chemicals would interact with SN either, but when you burn one thousands of chemicals are released so there's a good chance that at least one of those could compromise the SN. Nicotine and the other chemicals can enter the bloodstream within seconds and they take a few hours to a few days to leave the blood, and I don't think death by SN is that fast, it takes around 8 hours or so iirc.

Most people die in under an hour.

 

[𖣴 nadia 𖣴]

if composition and additive percentage of cigarettes were given by manufactures it'd be possible to assume how they would interact with SN. but since (on paper) cigarette manufacturers comply to permissible concentrations for any toxic substance in cigarette composition their amount should be set to low i.e low enough to prevent severe poisoning and death after having a smoke so their interaction with sn is probaly insignificant due to concentration. also most organic additive compounds are oxidized to CO/CO2 while burning and only fraction turns in complex physiologically active compounds as in gasoline burning for example

Yeah my main point was just that it's not really possible to give someone a definitive answer about whether or not it will affect SN since we don't have the data, the nicotine however will reduce the effect of the other drugs in the regime, imo it's not worth the risk, but each to their own.

i thought i read in several places it only takes a few mins to half an hour. for basically any method (except for cutting/bleeding out or the gas methods because i dont know them) anything over an hour is just reassurance you wont be interrupted

I might be wrong but I read that's the time it takes to become unconscious.

 

[Venus13]

Look I'm willing to give up a lot of different things but I'm not giving up my cigarettes and I will be having a cigarette after the salty cup

Most people die in under an hour.

I agree with this. Have your last cigarette, the sn will do what it does. Although, having it before the drink might be better to avoid fires.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I might be wrong but I read that's the time it takes to become unconscious.

id be interested to know where youve read it because people have been on call with the person and i dont think the calls lasted 8+hrs. ive actually read its fairly quick, like in minutes.

 

[𖣴 nadia 𖣴]

id be interested to know where youve read it because people have been on call with the person and i dont think the calls lasted 8+hrs. ive actually read its fairly quick, like in minutes.

The calls wouldn't last hours because the person becomes unconscious in minutes.

Edit: my bad, depending on the person it probably takes 1 or more hours but less than 8, that's just how much alone time is recommended which is why that number came to mind.

 

[Life_and_Death]

The calls wouldn't last hours because the person becomes unconscious in minutes.

thats the exact opposite of the last thing you said

 

[𖣴 nadia 𖣴]

thats the exact opposite of the last thing you said

I said I've read it can take up to 8 hours to die, you said it takes a few minutes to half an hour to die, I replied that i think that's the time it takes to become unconscious/pass out, not dead.

 

[Lavender Dreams]

I doubt there would be so many failures if it only took minutes. Maybe go with vape to be safer.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

I doubt there would be so many failures if it only took minutes.

So many failures?
People normally go unconscious is under 20 minutes and die in under an hour.

 

[Lavender Dreams]

So many failures?

Throwing up (unless it happens quickly), or being found in time and given methylene blue.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

Throwing up (unless it happens quickly), or being found in time and given methylene blue.

Throwing up usually isn't the cause of failure.
Calling for help or being found in time usually is.
Comparing those who fail to those who succeed those who succeed is wayyyyyyyyyyy higher.