Ok I knew about that but I was also surprised you can find sn on the DW.
You really are on form today LH. It seems like she did ctb since rarely do we see any confirmation unless a 3rd party like someone who knew the person confirms that they did.
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I actually need to get on with my day now, as I try & limit my time here, but I love SaSu so much...it's difficult to tear myself away at the mom. It's because the pro-lifers taking out MDS, just as they took out IC, has got my back up. Like most ppl here I guess. So just wanting to share my thoughts on how to LEGALLY use your democratic rights to fight back. I got welfare visits after both IC & MDS "interactions"....lets call them. So now have nothing to fear...but a lot of sh#t to throw pro-lifers way.
I spoke to Hayley several times & remember she posted her blood test somewhere on the forum. Without seeing her since 20/1/24, I am 99.99999% sure she "meat cured" successful with her SN.
I see, so it's definitely fair to assume that she "meat cured" successfully then. Otherwise, she would've came back and told us what happened.
Understandable, you've been frequently posting over the last couple of hours.
I feel the same way.
Wait, I had no idea you had a welfare check after MDS though.
I talked about it at the time, See my post #7 here; https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...urced-from-within-the-uk.144322/#post-2269461
Just thought of another thing. I've now had 5 welfare visits & the MDS one apart, they aren't too bad. So since we are all close to ctb'ing...I might have more welfare visits in the future. Because whislt the police are asking me stupid & pointless ?'s that means there is less time for them going after the likes of MDS, IC etc. So might just use my ctb feelings as a cry for help therefore. If you can read between the lines, about what I'm trying to say in that last paragraph
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Ah, I must've forgot about that thread since I did comment on it.I talked about it at the time, See my post #7 here; https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...urced-from-within-the-uk.144322/#post-2269461
Just thought of another thing. I've now had 5 welfare visits & the MDS one apart, they aren't too bad. So since we are all close to ctb'ing...I don't might more welfare visits. Because whislt the police are asking me stupid & pointless ?'s that means there is less time for them going after the likes of MDS, IC etc. So might just use my ctb feelings as a cry for help therefore. If you can read between the lines, about what I'm trying to say in that last paragraph
5 in total?? Thats quite a bit and yet you still have sn, they didn't take it away. I suppose you have a point about that. Don't worry, I understood what you were trying to say that last paragraph, loud and clear
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Linda
Member
- Jul 30, 2020
- 2,040
There is an old saying: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. I agree 100% with your suggestion. Everyone who posts here should assume that hostile people could read everything they post. So take care how you express yourself. Sensitive matters are best discussed by PM, but it's best to only PM people who have been around for a while, or who you can be certain are not hostile. Also take care not to reveal any personal information that could help identify you - unless you don't care if you are identified.I don't know if I am being paranoid here, but following MDS takedown, I am just checking my post history / DM for any talk about MDS SN with members here. Where there is talk I'm including the below to protect all concerned;
"Hi mate. Just wanted to say the only reason I have verified xxxxxxxxx details with you is to access a particular meat curing salt for your home meat curing hobby. And for no other reason. PLEASE DO NOT INGEST SN. Also all our talk about ctb methods, is purely for research purposes of course. And for no other reason. I hope you understand why I am saying this."
Would suggest others perhaps consider their post history as well. I'm prob being paranoid since I complied with the forum rules for this long, and am only pro-choice after suggesting ppl consider ALL their options and are old enough and of sound mind etc. But following that BBC news article on the MDS take down & how many UK ctb'ed are linked. It is clear BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING THIS FORUM!!!
Someone who is happy won't be browsing this forum, nor will he or she order SN or other stuff.
RemainingDubious
All of these lies are not worth fighting for
- Feb 18, 2024
- 374
Yeah.
Here's a fact the bbc doesn't want to share since they would rather place the blame on this site, instead of letting people know their beloved system also knew what it would have been declared as upon reaching customs too.
Tax and customs for goods sent from abroad
VAT, duty and customs declarations for goods received by post or courier - paying, collecting your goods, getting a refund and documents.
That source is the government. Why is the media so quick to leave that detail out? The government could have prevented numerous deaths (which they make out is so terrible) but they didn't.
People often talk about George Orwell's 1984 on social media and how similar things have become. What everyone seems to forget is how it ends. Winston loves BIG BROTHER.
Attachments
This is seriously messed up and no surprise the media has been quick to leave it out as a detail
RemainingDubious
All of these lies are not worth fighting for
- Feb 18, 2024
- 374
Who writes history? Do the writers tell the whole truth, especially about the part they played? Do they truthfully share their own faults? Do they accept responsibility?
It's the same old blame game over and over and over again.
1. the one who usually writes history tends to leave out thier own mistakes
2. No
3. Nope they don't honestly share their own faults
4. nope, very few times do we see them accept responsibility.
indeed it is
Lol, all of this from governments who daily threaten each other and all of us with nuclear war.
Like the man once said "sometimes you just have to pull your pants down and slide on the ice"
FUCK GOVERNMENTS, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
It's time for a reckoning.
If every person who CTB meat cured one government official with them.... oh my
Oops
I said it.
Like the man once said "sometimes you just have to pull your pants down and slide on the ice"
FUCK GOVERNMENTS, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
It's time for a reckoning.
If every person who CTB meat cured one government official with them.... oh my
Oops
I said it.Thanks for that re-assurance & in a way I don't care if BIG BROTHER knows my idenity. I am assuming they do after having had 5, yes 5 welfare visits from the police. Because as eluded in previous messages my MDS SN did not get through UK customs, whereas others have. Initally I was sad about losing £30 on that, but then I thought the police welfare visit prob costs the government about £100, so....
...Also my last message above (my last post, that last paragraph) had a coded message in there which @Goku Black got. I want to ensure resources are limited to go after the likes of MDS, IC, etc.
Everyone in the UK knows how badly the Tories have underfunded the police & other public services for the last 14 years is it now? SO my message to BIG BROTHER wonder why questionable thing I might do next. Why don't you keep tabs on me to find out? How about we find who your dad is, since your mum is a SL#T and doesn't know?
Since I have gone through my post history, I don't feel I have NOTHING to hide. And as long as one is careful with wording what can they do? I've been on this forum for 2 years now, and don't recall any issues with members being taken down like IC or MDS. Apart from the mods banning them, usually for being scammers or undercover journo's. I heard their was talk of @Greenberg being KL, but obviously what he did was HUGE. Basically what I am trying to say, is I think you would have to be pretty explicit in "encouraging or assisting". And there needs to be a clear course, showing that your words led DIRECTLY to a ctb, to be taken down as a member on this forum. Like IC or MDS. Is that viewpoint too naive?
Also it seems others are starting to see the UK as Nazi Germany as well;
So don't think that viewpoint could be considered "a crime against UK democratic" either. Obviously the UK fought hard & many lives were lost between 1939-1945 to protect "free speech" and democratic. IMO this forum is the acid test...do we still believe in those principles or are we as that news article suggests?
90% of the UK public like to conveniently forget about some parts of history like these stories....
Anglo-Nazi Pact in the 1930’s? - Historic UK
Was an Anglo-Nazi Pact in the 1930's ever on the cards? The governments of Britain and Nazi Germany were certainly on very friendly terms, with the British following a policy of appeasement...
www.historic-uk.com
"...In the 1930's, this was certainly not always the case, especially in Britain. The British establishment – centre-right – and the more extreme right-wing parties saw Hitler's Germany not just as a strong nation which could cripple communism once and for all, but also as a country they could possibly ally with, or at least encourage to attack the home of communism with some tacit support."
Oswald Mosley - Wikipedia
"during the 1920s and 1930s, rose to fame when, having become disillusioned with mainstream politics, he turned to fascism. He was a member of parliament and later founded and led the British Union of Fascists (BUF).[1][2][3]"
Unity Mitford - Wikipedia
"Unity Valkyrie Freeman-Mitford (8 August 1914 – 28 May 1948) was a British socialite, known for her relationship with Adolf Hitler. Both in Great Britain and Germany, she was a prominent supporter of Nazism, fascism and antisemitism, and belonged to Hitler's inner circle of friends."
Max Mosley - Wikipedia
"In late February 2018, the Daily Mail reported that Mosley had published a leaflet in the early 1960s linking black immigration to the spread of diseases, the implication being that Mosley had committed perjury in the High Court when giving evidence in his libel case against the News of the World.[152][153] In an interview with Cathy Newman on Channel 4 News, he conceded that a passage in the leaflet "probably is racist", which he denied ever publishing, and rejected the accusation he had lied in court.[152][153] The following day, the Labour Party said it would not accept any further donations from Mosley, including further support for the office of deputy leader Tom Watson; Mosley had donated £500,000 in total to Watson's office.[154]"
Any F1 fans out there? This book;
1994: The Untold Story of a Tragic and Controversial F1 Season - performancepublishing.co.uk
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www.performancepublishing.co.uk
Interesting fact; Unity Valkyrie Freeman-Mitford was Max Mosley's Auntie. True Fact, google it if you don't believe me.
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Linda
Member
- Jul 30, 2020
- 2,040
The UK has always spied on its citizens. Back in the 1970s they often searched my mail. (If you ever need to check whether someone is opening your papermail, place your letter between two sheets of carbon paper. It's then very hard to open the envelope without leaving clear traces on the letter.) What surprised me was how amateurish they were; I didn't even need to use the carbon paper trick to be able to tell that they were doing it.
Another, and perhaps more serious, reason for taking care about how you express yourself here is not who is reading it now, but who might read it in the future. Nobody is going to throw you in jail now for expressing an unpopular opinion here. But radical shifts of governments to the right have happened in the past, and could happen again - the US is dangerously close to that point - and then anything could happen, as many ordinary people in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s found out. If you are deemed to be an "undesirable", based on your past posts, you might be treated to a one-way trip to a concentration camp or similar. I know that sounds paranoid, and the odds of it happening are small. But it is not impossible. A little paranoia is healthy. It helps you stay alive in a hostile world.
RemainingDubious
All of these lies are not worth fighting for
- Feb 18, 2024
- 374
It's that the truth? We know for a fact the government lies to the public (most of who are tax payers, playing to be lied to)
The lockdown parties showed the government doesn't hold there hands up and take responsibility for their wrongs even when caught out. They play the blame game. There's no longer a real opposition party either
What other lies have we been fooled into accepting as facts?
i haven't watched all of that, which can be watched at
i couldn't believe some of the information but fact checked things to discover it was actually true
i want to make it crystal clear that i actually do like Jews
i dislike zionists though. i don't conflate the two like zionists do. that is actually antisemitic according to the IHRA definition that zionst use as a weapon to label others that disagree with their genocide
Numerous Jews actually speak out about "Jewish" zionists
Mission – Torah Jews
torahjews.org
i personally really respect decent humans like them who speak our against manipulation and injustice.
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pthnrdnojvsc
Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
- Aug 12, 2019
- 3,406
The evil BBC news organization took down MDS just as other news organizations took out kenneth law , N from D and others.
someone should tell these media slavers controllers that 1. we all will die anyway. 2. some people are in extreme pain extreme suffering or extreme torture with no way out and would like to exit that unbearable pain and you took away the only way for them to escape. 3. it's an individual's choice what they want to do with their body whether to live or die for any reason keeping in mind we all will die anyway, so they are just choosing when and how to go. 4. you media reporters are nothing just cells just primates no one to tell us what is objectively good or that we have to live no matter what. you are not masters nor objective truth holders just evil brainwashers and controllers who will get old and suffer in old age and die also just like all other animals. 5. there is no objective truth to me my truth is i want to escape extreme pain and so i choose to suicide and you monsters are trying to keep me and many others suffering in the prison. 6. a human is just another animal , dogs are allowed nembutal and euthanized but humans are not even though we all will die , some want to exit, and some are in extreme suffering pain torture. 7. dogs and humans share the 93% same genes , same brain structure so how are we different or not just animals too. 8. we should be allowed to choose how and when we want to exit this hell prison slavery torture you call life and this evil world. 9. we should be alllowed companies to sell us products to escape extreme suffering and pain or even assisted suicide services. 10. all your morality such as "you have to fight to live no matter what is pure subjective fiction you keep perpetration just to control the masses and to keep them in the prison. you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth to many.. 11. the truth is unbearable pain is much worst than anything could be good . nothing is worth the worst pain , suffering or torture . every human ages . just these 2 points show life is bad not good as you continously repeat. 12. all will die even the sun and universe nothing matters . what will matter in billion years? nothing
someone should tell these media slavers controllers that 1. we all will die anyway. 2. some people are in extreme pain extreme suffering or extreme torture with no way out and would like to exit that unbearable pain and you took away the only way for them to escape. 3. it's an individual's choice what they want to do with their body whether to live or die for any reason keeping in mind we all will die anyway, so they are just choosing when and how to go. 4. you media reporters are nothing just cells just primates no one to tell us what is objectively good or that we have to live no matter what. you are not masters nor objective truth holders just evil brainwashers and controllers who will get old and suffer in old age and die also just like all other animals. 5. there is no objective truth to me my truth is i want to escape extreme pain and so i choose to suicide and you monsters are trying to keep me and many others suffering in the prison. 6. a human is just another animal , dogs are allowed nembutal and euthanized but humans are not even though we all will die , some want to exit, and some are in extreme suffering pain torture. 7. dogs and humans share the 93% same genes , same brain structure so how are we different or not just animals too. 8. we should be allowed to choose how and when we want to exit this hell prison slavery torture you call life and this evil world. 9. we should be alllowed companies to sell us products to escape extreme suffering and pain or even assisted suicide services. 10. all your morality such as "you have to fight to live no matter what is pure subjective fiction you keep perpetration just to control the masses and to keep them in the prison. you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth to many.. 11. the truth is unbearable pain is much worst than anything could be good . nothing is worth the worst pain , suffering or torture . every human ages . just these 2 points show life is bad not good as you continously repeat. 12. all will die even the sun and universe nothing matters . what will matter in billion years? nothing
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R_N
-Memento Mori-
- Dec 3, 2019
- 1,442
I think I am 'safe'. I don't dm much and I don't give clear instructions to people how to ctb.
I did post a lot recently but nothing of sorts.
I did post a lot recently but nothing of sorts.
Redleaf1992
Just leave us the f*ck alone!
- Feb 3, 2024
- 262
Any news articles/vids you can share from your side of the pond?
RemainingDubious
All of these lies are not worth fighting for
- Feb 18, 2024
- 374
It's that the truth? We know for a fact the government lies to the public (most of who are tax payers, playing to be lied to)
The lockdown parties showed the government doesn't hold there hands up and take responsibility for their wrongs even when caught out. They play the blame game. There's no longer a real opposition party either
What other lies have we been fooled into accepting as facts?
i haven't watched all of that, which can be watched at
i couldn't believe some of the information but fact checked things to discover it was actually true
LZ is the initials of the seller in Ukraine
Oh my bad, I only realized that after thinking about it more.
Tommen Baratheon
1+1=3
- Dec 26, 2023
- 431
Not really. Not for the government .There are cameras (ANPR) all over the place and they want even more cameras. As for messenger apps: Belgian government wants to scan all your messages, supposedly for kiddie porn. AFAIK they also approve of EU's idea for European digital identity.
I'm from Balkan. LZ are the initials of the seller
Ukrajinac prodavao samoubicama otrov u Velikoj Britaniji
Ukrajinac koji je prodavao otrov povezan sa najmanje 130 smrtnih slučajeva u Velikoj Britaniji, identifikovan je kao Leonid Zakutenko, pokazala je istraga Bi-Bi-Si-ja.
www.politika.rs
Ovaj je Ukrajinac odgovoran za smrt 130 Britanaca: ‘On je prezira vrijedno i zlo biće‘
Pratili su ga do njegove kuće u Kijevu, a on je zanijekao da je prodao smrtonosnu kemikaliju, koju BBC nije htio imenovati
www.jutarnji.hr
You'll just have to translate the articles to English (it's not my native language)
Ah makes sense, it's roughly the same place geographically. I thought it was somewhere far off but since it's mainly a story within the EU, it won't be broadcast elsewhere as much with any interest.I'm from Balkan. LZ are the initials of the seller
Ukrajinac prodavao samoubicama otrov u Velikoj Britaniji
Ukrajinac koji je prodavao otrov povezan sa najmanje 130 smrtnih slučajeva u Velikoj Britaniji, identifikovan je kao Leonid Zakutenko, pokazala je istraga Bi-Bi-Si-ja.Ovaj je Ukrajinac odgovoran za smrt 130 Britanaca: ‘On je prezira vrijedno i zlo biće‘
Pratili su ga do njegove kuće u Kijevu, a on je zanijekao da je prodao smrtonosnu kemikaliju, koju BBC nije htio imenovati
You'll just have to translate the articles to English (it's not my native language)
What baffles me is why Big Brother and pretty much every other agency is so determined that a person taking their own life is so terrible. That people who are suffering from things intense enough to make suicide an option are forced to live! It's like a torture.
So does anyone have an email for him they can DM me?been trying to find him to make a purchase but it seems to be impossible,thanks for any help on it
It absolutely infuriates me that other people such as mental health,Dr's,nurses,police and other busy body's seem to think they can dictate what a person does with their life,it's that person's life to do with as they please but all these people seem to think they can control it and use it for financial gain as Dr's,nurses,mental health and police all benefit from iether arresting you or section you off by way off bonus pay for their arrest target numbers or sectioning off target numbers,they're complete strangers to us so shouldn't have any say whatsoever on anyone life,They should concentrate on their own and mind their business,and to say someone is suffering from mental health because they wish to die is absolute BS in the finest degree,it's just a control tactic,the more people in a mental asylum the more cash it gets,it all comes down to financial gain,take away the money to be gained from it and you'd see they wouldn't be bothered in the slightest what people did with their lives,pure disgusts me on another level,Doctors are the most immoral people around these days,just weeks ago 1 blatantly lied to my face then my voice came blasting out of his phone after I spoke to him,he quickly made excuses then left,and they tell us to trust them!!! How can you trust anyone who lies directly to you then gets proven to be doing so a mere few seconds later,absolutely laughable it is.they get crafty where I live,camped out in the flat above me,and get ambulances to hide around the corner when it looks like I'm gonna do anything,they give themselves away far too easy.what ever happened to "my life my rights?" Seems there's none in today's world,we are all just controlled and enslaved by governments but made to believe we are free with the rights to do anything we want when we are far from it.
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DeadManLiving
Ticketholder
- Sep 9, 2022
- 315
Since you said Mental Health Act I'm guessing UK ?
Haven't they pass assisted dying over there by now? Or burning taxpayer dollars that could be best and optimally spent elsewhere instead of stalking and tormenting suicidal people who assert title to their own life or fate.
They bother you less here in the US, more negative Liberty rights but you have to know what you're doing with surgical precision, don't answer the door, maintain access controls, and you can tell them to a warrant. If you can do that you'll be fine. If you open the door you're fucked.
No need for a warrant if the big data aggregators and advertisers have all of your data and Mom on tap? They don't need a warrant here, unless they know you're going to make a major issue out of; so the targeting is more selective.
VPNs are all in bed with each other, useless. Unless they maintain an official archive of all law enforcement requests letters easily accessible or on the first page, useless.
Not just that but local and endpoint side channel attacks. All Major VPNs are all in bed with each other, and if traceroute point-to-point slippery slopes are not enough then DNS servers leak. Knowingly or unknowingly, even if they promise the world to you and mean it, VPNs' servers are not even inspected at the physical layer. They just hot plug a bunch of conduits and hardware and sell the promises of privacy. Any commercial gear from established vendors are unwittingly compromised, shipping out with embedded back channel server racks or Ethernet adapter loopbacks on chip even internal system clocks rolling behind a Unix Epoch or just drifting so system time looks fine but deep inside is lagging and miss all of the critical patches.
But if you already dead, and there's no point in worrying about this. Just make sure you know your rights down to the ink across County / State legislation better and faster than the speed of wisdom as if you were being tortured by the cartel.
Any hardware or even fixtures purchased overseas that you haven't scanned, build yourself or X-Rayed assume is back channelled compromised, that includes screens. Not all, but you'd be surprised. Go buy an electric interface tool kit on Amazon and pry it open. You'll be surprised, if you know exactly what you're looking for. VPNs are all in bed with each other unless they archive and publicly post all law enforcement requests on their site.
The only ones you can trust might be rural VPN syndicates that are completely off the radar, like located in remote place that doesn't even have a village name where only one or two admins speak English with their population and dialect on the verge of extinction, let alone any known translation; like in some parts of India or other part of nowhere that doesn't even have a village name. There's one that comes to mind but I forget.
Even then, DNS leaks, sideband/channel leeching, and anything that vibrates is fair game, easy peasy the tech's been out there for years. With Graphine OS you can't even choose what cell towers you want to connect with or configure your own tower talk packet timestamping. But there's no point in custom building telecom gear except for gutting it if you're already dead. Unless you're some kind of an international criminal nobody cares about suicidal people. They just care about the caring part as social proofs.
The ones who do are more than welcome to come on the this forum and put their money where their mouth is.
Otherwise just burning taxpayer dollars on calls for service that could end up turning into a Swiss cheese riddled wild card scenarios.
So I'm not sure about the uk, but in the US they have to do something with them before they die. I mean a human anatomical corpses worth at least a solid half a million for crash test dummy or ballistics testing, although certainly worth much more alive in a psych ward.
In America if you can't fix it then monetize it. Now mental health is commercializing under the emerging "behavioral health" industry, which is not a clinical but a commercial construct used to describe the institutionalization of persons with deviant behaviors there can be held for an indeterminate indefinite period of time without the due process of law.
I wouldn't want to spend 72 seconds in these facilities, let alone 72 hours. Wonder who's sponsoring these experiments. Like in New Jersey they've extended psychiatric holds from 72 to 144 hours in a hold ratified by the previous or other Governor extended from 72
Wonder who that Senator with vested interests in Billable codes to churn Medicaid and insurance is who's pocketing the difference. It's good money.
Can you imagine being held in a looney bin with no pillow, a freezer I should say, no outside contact and no information for 144 hours without knowing why you're there or seeing an administrative law judge?
Lots of Financial Disclosure statements from public figures coming due soon that actively promote and politically weaponized the profiteering of these seemingly benevolent programs that exist only for instrumentalization and commercialization of the most vulnerable, where the evidence indicates this proliferates — increases (not decreases) post discharge suicide rates.
I can only imagine the UK. Time for these politicians to have a taste of their own medicine.
