Help Can’t do partial standing hanging right.

[RadioGaga]

So it's being used via a door with bedsheets. They work PERFECTLY! BUT! The problem is that I feel like I can't breathe when the noose tightens and my feet are on the ground.

The best way of describing this is basically like holding your breath underwater. If I went longer I'd probably pass out but because I can't breathe I "swim back up" for air or immediately opening the door to make the nose drop! :(. Like my lungs and body are BEGGING for air as I can't breathe or I feel like I'm holding my breath underwater you know?

Anyways, any ideas on how to prevent this sort of thing from happening or no? :(.

 

[Forveleth]

Can you actually breathe with it tightened around your neck or are you strangling yourself?

Partial ideally relies more on cutting off the blood supply to your head to make you pass out very quickly. If you are closing off your trachea, you may need to adjust your setup. Some have used padding on either side of the neck to put extra pressure on the arteries to pinch them closed while still allowing for breathing.

 

[RadioGaga]

Can you actually breathe with it tightened around your neck or are you strangling yourself?

Partial ideally relies more on cutting off the blood supply to your head to make you pass out very quickly. If you are closing off your trachea, you may need to adjust your setup. Some have used padding on either side of the neck to put extra pressure on the arteries to pinch them closed while still allowing for breathing.

I also forgot to mention that I wrap a folded soft pillow case around my neck and tie it behind my neck with a half knot. Like when you tie a sneaker! :). The noose is then on top of that just under my chin. But again the problem is that I can't breathe or feel comfortable doing this and on top of that I don't get the head exploding feeling atleast! So that's good! :).

 

[binino]

I'll be following your thread, as something similar is happening to me.

 

[JesiBel]

It's obvious, when the ligature knot closes due to your weight, the rope will penetrate deep into your neck and the Noose Knot/Arbor Knot will tighten to the maximum, compressing all the structures of the neck (airways, jugular veins, carotid arteries).

So you won't be able to breathe or swallow in any way.
The correct position of the ligature under the jaw and the weight of your suspended body exerting downward pressure will cause the base of the tongue to rise backward, blocking the passage of air/saliva.

Photo (warning!): postmortem CT scan of the neck (hanging suicide) with the ligature still on his neck

 

[RadioGaga]

It's obvious, when the ligature knot closes due to your weight, the rope will penetrate deep into your neck and the Noose Knot/Arbor Knot will tighten to the maximum, compressing all the structures of the neck (airways, jugular veins, carotid arteries).

So you won't be able to breathe or swallow in any way.
The correct position of the ligature under the jaw and the weight of your suspended body exerting downward pressure will cause the base of the tongue to rise backward, blocking the passage of air/saliva.

Photo (warning!): postmortem CT scan of the neck (hanging suicide) with the ligature still on his neck

How can you get the noose to be under the chin? The sheets are too thick and cover my whole neck now. I also wonder how with partial people die? I think the reason why partial fails is because most of the damn time the noose ISN'T under the chin. It slips downwards and puts pressure elsewhere whereas with full suspension your body when it's fully suspended has the noose automatically adjust itself to be directly under the chin! :). Which leads to Higher success rates am I right jesibel? :).

 

[JesiBel]

How can you get the noose to be under the chin? The sheets are too thick and cover my whole neck now. I also wonder how with partial people die? I think the reason why partial fails is because most of the damn time the noose ISN'T under the chin. It slips downwards and puts pressure elsewhere whereas with full suspension your body when it's fully suspended has the noose automatically adjust itself to be directly under the chin! :). Which leads to Higher success rates am I right jesibel? :).

I think it would be easier with a rope (10 to 14 mm thick), since it will always maintain its diameter and structure (and it's easier for it to penetrate deep into the neck). With the sheet, on the other hand, you'll need to shape it by rolling it up a bit, and it might be more difficult to tie the ligature knot (Arbor Knot) correctly, as well as ensure the knot slides easily (this knot is self-tightening; when you apply your weight, it will close completely on its own and the ligature will compress your neck firmly)

You can pre-adjust the ligature knot to keep it in the correct position and prevent it from shifting.

In Partial Hanging, the position you choose will also be important; the more of your weight you can use, the better. You'll know if it's not a good position because you'll feel a lot of pressure inside your head (you're only compressing the jugular veins and not the carotid arteries), and you won't lose consciousness quickly. That will be your indicator that something is wrong and it's best to stop.
The death mechanism in Partial and Full Suspension is the same: stop the flow of oxygenated blood to the brain. The target is the carotid arteries, which are deeper in the neck.

In Full Suspension you will always have the advantage of using the full weight of your entire body, since it will not be supported or in contact with the ground.

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Spoiler: About mistakes and failed attempts

Mistakes in the Hanging method
Main points where the Hanging attempt may fail