Can you sue people/hospital leaking personal health information (PHI) for reporting your suicide in public area

[Wonhun]

Is there any case for that and how was that end up with? How do you testify the leak when you hear them discussing in open area during hospitalization

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

Can you explain the situation more? I know that with these cases, if its under the stupid hospital, they'd avoid it unless you never discussed it or it was confidential and you were directly dealing with a manhandled case where its more operative to be delt with. I know this from some cases I delt with and sadly know too much about law and jury but am too poor as shit to truly sue anyone and in a bad living crises but I will support anyone who is being abused by the system the most my stupid brain can aid for others <3

 

[Wonhun]

Can you explain the situation more? I know that with these cases, if its under the stupid hospital, they'd avoid it unless you never discussed it or it was confidential and you were directly dealing with a manhandled case where its more operative to be delt with. I know this from some cases I delt with and sadly know too much about law and jury but am too poor as shit to truly sue anyone and in a bad living crises but I will support anyone who is being abused by the system the most my stupid brain can aid for others <3

Can you elaborate more about for what you mean as man handled case and more operative?
From what I understand is that if patient information is discussed on a open public area where people outside the circle of care was informed without your consent, it violates the PHI and they will be hugely fined.

However, I am not sure does it apply when law enforcement is involved to conduct an investigation for your suicidal attempt in a open public area. As we all know they do not ask and respect the consent of patient under psychological influence. Like they ask the witness who dial the emergency service for the reason and trigger for the suicidal attempt in a public area and openly discuss about it. Not sure if it can be sued for violating PHI as the insurance company somehow know about the reason for hospitalization and refuse to cover the fee, where I did not show suicide behavior and ideation during the process of involuntary hospitalization.

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

Can you elaborate more about for what you mean as man handled case and more operative?
From what I understand is that if patient information is discussed on a open public area where people outside the circle of care was informed without your consent, it violates the PHI and they will be hugely fined.

However, I am not sure does it apply when law enforcement is involved to conduct an investigation for your suicidal attempt in a open public area. As we all know they do not ask and respect the consent of patient under psychological influence. Like they ask the witness who dial the emergency service for the reason and trigger for the suicidal attempt in a public area and openly discuss about it. Not sure if it can be sued for violating PHI as the insurance company somehow know about the reason for hospitalization and refuse to cover the fee, where I did not show suicide behavior and ideation during the process of involuntary hospitalization.

Man handled as it was abused and operative where it's more easily classified to be acted upon. With not, then it would be dismissed without merit and it wouldn't even be touched, especially as most lawyers look for cases where it won't touch hospitals because its part of the government where its hard to get full compensation on unless you have proof you are ill for them to really deal with your cases for you, and they wouldn't even dear touch that especially if you seem fine enough thinking its just you being in the ER with no proof you take all your visits paying the hospital or live there. It's so evil...

Also, it would, but with how law enforcement acts, they would barely care, especially if it takes up their space and would close it, as they don't care, unless they are being paid for it or unless it is delt with the jury who has the final say or an actual lawyer to present it to the authorities after you are guaranteed a deliberation and enactment settled for you where they'd be obliged to assist you, and if not, and from my experiences, they just go about their day only caring about cases once its enacted first but wouldn't stay long term especially as they have to be presented as the protect and service they play on for the most part.

If you weren't showing suicidal ideation, you can most definitely sue, especially if they broke both HIPPA and PHI, but they would need proof if you have taken your meds and never shared with your therapist or providers you were suicidal, and if the doctors did that anyway, you can get assistance on providing evidence of when you arrived that day and when you were operated as they will get the person's information, and if at all, you can only provide what they said, and they can look at the cameras - and by law, they have to, as well (take this equally as sharing personal information and proof being recorded in regard to defamation lawsuits and obstruction of justice on your behalf)— for you to get a breach into investigation if they've done it with others and especially if you were abused prior into being intake, but for the reasons you were hospitalized, they'd want a full report and incident that took place to even make a decision and delegations on if its important for it to be settled and for the hospital to be fined and sued for breach of contract and for misconduct on you as a patient and as a impatient under their care.

 

[Wonhun]

Man handled as it was abused and operative where it's more easily classified to be acted upon. With not, then it would be dismissed without merit and it wouldn't even be touched, especially as most lawyers look for cases where it won't touch hospitals because its part of the government where its hard to get full compensation on unless you have proof you are ill for them to really deal with your cases for you, and they wouldn't even dear touch that especially if you seem fine enough thinking its just you being in the ER with no proof you take all your visits paying the hospital or live there. It's so evil...

Also, it would, but with how law enforcement acts, they would barely care, especially if it takes up their space and would close it, as they don't care, unless they are being paid for it or unless it is delt with the jury who has the final say or an actual lawyer to present it to the authorities after you are guaranteed a deliberation and enactment settled for you where they'd be obliged to assist you, and if not, and from my experiences, they just go about their day only caring about cases once its enacted first but wouldn't stay long term especially as they have to be presented as the protect and service they play on for the most part.

If you weren't showing suicidal ideation, you can most definitely sue, especially if they broke both HIPPA and PHI, but they would need proof if you have taken your meds and never shared with your therapist or providers you were suicidal, and if the doctors did that anyway, you can get assistance on providing evidence of when you arrived that day and when you were operated as they will get the person's information, and if at all, you can only provide what they said, and they can look at the cameras - and by law, they have to, as well (take this equally as sharing personal information and proof being recorded in regard to defamation lawsuits and obstruction of justice on your behalf)— for you to get a breach into investigation if they've done it with others and especially if you were abused prior into being intake, but for the reasons you were hospitalized, they'd want a full report and incident that took place to even make a decision and delegations on if its important for it to be settled and for the hospital to be fined and sued for breach of contract and for misconduct on you as a patient and as a impatient under their care.

I am not sure did I understand fully, but to summarize, given the fact that during the involuntary hospitalization, they did not investigated anything for the cause of injury from my response to them, but they do find out it is a suicidal ideation for the reason of hospitalization based on the witness, and the witness was interrogated by law enforcement in a open public area in the hospital.
Pro for sueing
1. You get money back (from whom?
2. It is highly possible to win
3. I destroy the relationship for people who intervene and contact emergency service
Cons for sueing
1. Being sued back for perverting the course of justice, liability for not answering and explaining why did I got people contacting emergency service to law enforcement
2. There might be law enforcement body camera footage recording for suicidal speech and it might be presented to the court
3. The insurance company will not cover the fee as they have another reason to deny the coverage
4. Lawyer refused to take the case
5. The lawsuit potential effect on discouraging healthcare provider to intervene suicidal attempt might cause a lot of problems
6. Everyone involved and knows me know I did that and I might got in the global news

 

[brokeandbroken]

Is there any case for that and how was that end up with? How do you testify the leak when you hear them discussing in open area during hospitalization

Technically HIPAA should apply but it won't matter. Considering if you go to court and lose even if it is just depression/suicidality it goes on your permanent record and jobs become impossible to get. A hearsay conversation is going to be about impossible to win. As soon as you are beyond the doors every right you have basically ceases to apply. Not sure what's more public then your record. So clearly your rights cease to exist there.

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

I am not sure did I understand fully, but to summarize, given the fact that during the involuntary hospitalization, they did not investigated anything for my injury from me, but they do find out it is a suicidal ideation for the reason of hospitalization based on the witness, and the witness was interrogated by law enforcement in a open public area in the hospital.
Pro for sueing
1. You get money back (from whom?
2. It is highly possible to win
3. I destroy the relationship for people who intervene and contact emergency service
Cons for sueing
1. Being sued back for perverting the course of justice, liability for not answering and explaining why did I got people contacting emergency service to law enforcement
2. There might be law enforcement body camera footage recording for suicidal speech and it might be presented to the court
3. The insurance company will not cover the fee as they have another reason to deny the coverage
4. Lawyer refused to take the case
5. The lawsuit potential effect on discouraging healthcare provider to intervene suicidal attempt might cause a lot of problems
6. Everyone involved and knows me know I did that and I might got in the global news

Were you interrogated? Also, sadly I been in this process and was duped despite never stating I was suicidal myself and there was no witness or recording as the fucking emergency fight fighters that was called and fucking duped me... and always didn't want that from me despite not even being comfortable with them.

Did they do what my experience was stated?

Also, if it was in the hospital despite no investigation prior, it is definitely a means to sue especially if they have evidence you were taken without the prior aid of being rightfully placed with a good alibi for them to consider that, and for me, it was manipulated and taken out of context, and will never fkign trust anyone until I die, even staying away from my last friend who I suspect used me and gaslighted me to be uncomfortable when I am not in the mood to...

Sorry for my unprofessionalism... this world should be sued by whoever created it to burn it all to the ground.

Also, you may receive compensation especially if you paid for services without them even acknowledging your claim prior to and from the time you were placed there and even possibly you could win, yes, but more so, you would win and even be given rights to disconnect from the services they provide while being on their radar, as once you've sued a hospital, they have to put more into your account to treat you well and fairly so they don't get blown another defamatory lawsuit as it costs money and expenses for everyone involved, especially the establishment its under.

Also, don't worry about the first few parts of the cons, been through this and you rarely get sued unless you did something very very in need for a lawsuit, but if you sue and don't win a case, they will just keep on being the nasty a-holes they are and just get away with it. That's how bad people always win... :((

Again, if you have proof it was taken out of misconsideration of your own liabilities, you won't be juried for that, especially since my allegation is the same thing of what happened to me, but the body cam would need to provide something, like when you were and if you were sluggish or not compliant enough for the jury to even state that you were abused to even share such news, especially if you have anxiety or was forced against your will and struggling before you got there. You can sue!

Insurance is sadly another portion I won't get to, as everyone is being fed over by them right now, and cases I delt with them were so hard. I can't fully go there but I will say if they were supposed to pay your services and time there and if its written somewhere in a fine print or a letter you signed or read in their terms of services and conditions, take it to court!

Lawyers comes and goes and finding the right one is based on the one who is most competent and intelligent enough and has most winning cases, especially in the mental and medical health field to even handle those, and if not, they aren't registered enough for you to give them your money and finding one is usually hard, and that's why it's vital you hear others stories and look deeply at other cases similar to yours especially in your state, too.

Also, the last one won't happen... Most rarely care, trust me from my own experiences and why I'm miserable...

 

[Wonhun]

Were you interrogated? Also, sadly I been in this process and was duped despite never stating I was suicidal myself and there was no witness or recording as the fucking emergency fight fighters that was called and fucking duped me... and always didn't want that from me despite not even being comfortable with them.

Did they do what my experience was stated?

Also, if it was in the hospital despite no investigation prior, it is definitely a means to sue especially if they have evidence you were taken without the prior aid of being rightfully placed with a good alibi for them to consider that, and for me, it was manipulated and taken out of context, and will never fkign trust anyone until I die, even staying away from my last friend who I suspect used me and gaslighted me to be uncomfortable when I am not in the mood to...

Sorry for my unprofessionalism... this world should be sued by whoever created it to burn it all to the ground.

I am so sorry for your experience. From what I understand did someone snitch and send an emergency response team to you and found out you are not suicidal and leave without sending you to hospital?

I did not get interrogated but there are multiple health professional came and check my condition and have a conversation, where I steer it in a positive way and they cannot do anything about it as I am coopertive.

However, the law enforcement did investigate. They have asked a lot of question for what happen. But from what I am awared of, they in fact spilled out all of my privacy in a open public area in hospital where I can hear them directly. I have no clue who they are talking to as I was involuntary hospitalized and lying in the bed. But it is safe to say it is either hospital or law enforcement unit, which is the core evidence for a lawsuit on breaching PHI. (Not sure will they, the hospital and the law enforcement unit, provided the evidence recorded by them). Otherwise it is only my testimony during the involuntary hospitalization under influence. Though they did not perform lab test to verify if I am under influence.

Also, you may receive compensation especially if you paid for services without them even acknowledging your claim prior to and from the time you were placed there and even possibly you could win, yes, but more so, you would win and even be given rights to disconnect from the services they provide while being on their radar, as once you've sued a hospital, they have to put more into your account to treat you well and fairly so they don't get blown another defamatory lawsuit as it costs money and expenses for everyone involved, especially the establishment its under.

Also, don't worry about the first few parts of the cons, been through this and you rarely get sued unless you did something very very in need for a lawsuit, but if you sue and don't win a case, they will just keep on being the nasty a-holes they are and just get away with it. That's how bad people always win... :((

Again, if you have proof it was taken out of misconsideration of your own liabilities, you won't be juried for that, especially since my allegation is the same thing of what happened to me, but the body cam would need to provide something, like when you were and if you were sluggish or not compliant enough for the jury to even state that you were abused to even share such news, especially if you have anxiety or was forced against your will and struggling before you got there. You can sue!

Insurance is sadly another portion I won't get to, as everyone is being fed over by them right now, and cases I delt with them were so hard. I can't fully go there but I will say if they were supposed to pay your services and time there and if its written somewhere in a fine print or a letter you signed or read in their terms of services and conditions, take it to court!

Lawyers comes and goes and finding the right one is based on the one who is most competent and intelligent enough and has most winning cases, especially in the mental and medical health field to even handle those, and if not, they aren't registered enough for you to give them your money and finding one is usually hard, and that's why it's vital you hear others stories and look deeply at other cases similar to yours especially in your state, too.

Also, the last one won't happen... Most rarely care, trust me from my own experiences and why I'm miserable...

I bear no grudgets (as my username suggested) on law enforcement, healthcare provider and even the witness. But I do concern about liability for any record, risk of my identity going to public, and potential affects on my future career, which likely be involved for what I sue. All of this risk affects the execution on the future part of the plan and I cannot tolerant any liability. As mentioned before there is a potential effect on disencouraging healthcare provider to intervene suicidal attempt, and I dont think normies will like its message if it wins. It is a long-going war for us and them.

I am curious about how do you get proof or evidence for bleaching PHI? As I can imagine those will be more like affidavit instead of objective evidence.

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

I am so sorry for your experience. From what I understand did someone snitch and send an emergency response team to you and found out you are not suicidal and leave without sending you to hospital?

I did not get interrogated but there are multiple health professional came and check my condition and have a conversation, where I steer it in a positive way and they cannot do anything about it as I am coopertive.

However, the law enforcement did investigate. They have asked a lot of question for what happen. But from what I am awared of, they in fact spilled out all of my privacy in a open public area in hospital where I can hear them directly. I have no clue who they are talking to as I was involuntary hospitalized and lying in the bed. But it is safe to say it is either hospital or law enforcement unit, which is the core evidence for a lawsuit on breaching PHI. (Not sure will they, the hospital and the law enforcement unit, provided the evidence recorded by them). Otherwise it is only my testimony during the involuntary hospitalization under influence. Though they did not perform lab test to verify if I am under influence.

First, where there cameras around that day or written record noted on the chart they assigned you, and if they wrote you weren't 'cooperative', then that is on them and you can definitely use that more for your case, especially for them to not fuck up your life more from a previous comment who establishes what I'd gone through in the years leading to my breakdowns? If so, you have even viable evidence to prove for a fact you were taken against your will especially as you have nothing to lead them on with, and they usually always never care and care about the damn money, those fucking monsters...

And if they investigated it before you were under their care, that would prove two things, yes but who did it? How did it go, since you started off explaining it was in the hospital by the staff of the hospital and the police. Were both taken outside or inside the facility?

Yes, if they did that, that is a deep breach of information they aren't support to do one bit unless you were intake, not prior to. You can handle that by even showing the proof of evidence when you report the incident and get lawyers involved where they collect it for you too, and I believe you'd have to bring some water or document stating you were there that day and the incident report of what was gathered from why you are writing an inquiry.

It can be a mixture of both depending on who caused it and if both were involved and if the hospital collected it given they are under HIPPA and still abused that and if law enforcers didn't protect you after asking you vital information.

Also, mine was a therapist that was more of an emergency contact for the day and guilt tripped me and placed me under her lock, as I couldn't get away from her and felt in my gut she wasn't worth talking to especially as I knew she wasn't listening and sounded fake and she wasn't even my therapist anyways, and never wanted that either...

 

[Wonhun]

First, where there cameras around that day or written record noted on the chart they assigned you, and if they wrote you weren't 'cooperative', then that is on them and you can definitely use that more for your case, especially for them to not fuck up your life more from a previous comment who establishes what I'd gone through in the years leading to my breakdowns? If so, you have even viable evidence to prove for a fact you were taken against your will especially as you have nothing to lead them on with, and they usually always never care and care about the damn money, those fucking monsters...

I am cooperative and not under influence during the investigation by hospital. I did accept their aid during the involuntary hospitalization. I have been asking for not being admitted to hospitalization but they refused. Not sure does it affects my odds on winning the sue.

And if they investigated it before you were under their care, that would prove two things, yes but who did it? How did it go, since you started off explaining it was in the hospital by the staff of the hospital and the police. Were both taken outside or inside the facility?

Yes, if they did that, that is a deep breach of information they aren't support to do one bit unless you were intake, not prior to. You can handle that by even showing the proof of evidence when you report the incident and get lawyers involved where they collect it for you too, and I believe you'd have to bring some water or document stating you were there that day and the incident report of what was gathered from why you are writing an inquiry.

It can be a mixture of both depending on who caused it and if both were involved and if the hospital collected it given they are under HIPPA and still abused that and if law enforcers didn't protect you after asking you vital information.

Also, mine was a therapist that was more of an emergency contact for the day and guilt tripped me and placed me under her lock, as I couldn't get away from her and felt in my gut she wasn't worth talking to especially as I knew she wasn't listening and sounded fake and she wasn't even my therapist anyways, and never wanted that either...

I have no clue, I was sent to involuntary hospitalization. I heard the witness went to the hospital public area outside of my ward and start discussing my privacy and history to some authority and thats it. No clue whom they were talking to. When I was released, I see nobody but the reception outside the ward. No clue if there is a recording for the event. No clue if they had deleted it. No clue will they preserve it if there is one. I don't forsee myself sueing in a reasonable short period of time frame as I have my own investigation and risk management to do.

I have no document and I did not bring anything with me for the involuntary hospitalization. However, I did sign a document where I will be responsible for the admission fee of hospitalization. The insurance company also force me to explain the event but I find it hard to narrate the accident to favor my odds. They did conclude the reason of hospitalization is suicidal ideation. It is logical to assume there is a bleach on PHI as the hospital unit did not investigate this reason from my response. In fact, nobody asked for my response on the event resulting to emergency service.

Lawyers comes and goes and finding the right one is based on the one who is most competent and intelligent enough and has most winning cases, especially in the mental and medical health field to even handle those, and if not, they aren't registered enough for you to give them your money and finding one is usually hard, and that's why it's vital you hear others stories and look deeply at other cases similar to yours especially in your state, too.

Speaking of which, should I concern about revealing my situation to the untrusted lawyer? Especially when they have to fully understand my situation and motives and what the effects might brings to the public and society. I do not want another risk of bleaching for getting advice. Normies does not like this kind of stuff.

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

I am cooperative and not under influence during the investigation by hospital. I did accept their aid during the involuntary hospitalization. I have been asking for not being admitted to hospitalization but they refused. Not sure does it affects my odds on winning the sue.

I have no clue, I was sent to involuntary hospitalization. I heard the witness went to the hospital public area outside of my ward and start discussing my privacy and history to some authority and thats it. No clue whom they were talking to. When I was released, I see nobody but the reception outside the ward. No clue if there is a recording for the event. No clue if they had deleted it. No clue will they preserve it if there is one. I don't forsee myself sueing in a reasonable short period of time frame as I have my own investigation and risk management to do.

I have no document and I did not bring anything with me for the involuntary hospitalization. However, I did sign a document where I will be responsible for the admission fee of hospitalization. The insurance company also force me to explain the event but I find it hard to narrate the accident to favor my odds. They did conclude the reason of hospitalization is suicidal ideation. It is logical to assume there is a bleach on PHI as the hospital unit did not investigate this reason from my response. In fact, nobody asked for my response on the event resulting to emergency service.

They will sadly do that meaning you were coerced into accepting their deal. You didn't have a plea deal offered and why cases like this gets brushed off because people won't admit you are being manipulated by the system to get placed into something like this anyway. Also, when I meant under influence, I obviously meant if you would be tired or anxious for them to be under investigation for harming you under their care when you can't because its written by what you and your therapist go by and why I hate this world... It never makes anything liable and free for you to get around to having some sense of peace. Also, once you were placed in involuntary, it means you are admitting yourself, which is a good thing, because otherwise you'd be impatient or labeled a baker act, and if you signed your papers, that's proof too that you were wrongfully harmed in the process, and however, you can equally right yourself off, but because the system always fs people over, its really hard to say what their policies are because they can go overboard on your claim for being admitted, but if its under your right and your oath, you can file a claim that you came admittedly prior to the investigation while it had happened, but you never signed a deal to be placed into the care of the facility, just that you had obligated to stand by their cooperation or else they would've silenced you anyways, and if you equally read soe=me of the papers, even without asking any prior information, they aren't by law suppose to write that in, even if your therapist isn't aware of it.

You can't actually have your rights taken if you weren't gonna be apart of their problem and they signed off on you anyways doing so, and there are two forms, but the stupid police officers always manipulate you to sign the intake by leaving and being mandated for you to wait on some stupid doctor to control you and your rights soon after, and they wonder why we hate them...

Also, there should be recordings in body cams and records documented and in the cameras on that day which I left off mentioning prior earlier.

I'm so sorry this whole thing is hard because of passes that exist to destroy us that even insurance companies are incompetent to even aid with a well documented situation on getting us through this and refiling the claim, and if it was with that investigator who placed you, sadly... the case is gone :'))

they barely believe or care to access and know from my many time being forced into the mental ward especially recently in October from a fucking moronic person, its so hard to prove anything in the shortcomings, but with my intent and claim, I had one witness and the calls regarding it, and could sue anytime except I barely have the funds or energy to do so and that's a great example and if it was directed to someone who didn't work in that lousy evil industry

I hope I could help regardless and explain everything in depth the best I could, but yes, this would be a win loose battle and how most of us start learning to stay away from trusting these people :'))