Discussion Can you manage to do a pull-up while suffocating in the noose?

[qw3rty259]

It's a funny question, I guess. It's hard to find a tall enough tree with a branch that fits my height (I mean, to make it so there was a space between me and the ground, and also enough space for my hands to not reach out to the branch). So I wonder, would it be possible for me to do a pull-up if the branch was close enough to grip it with my hands? My thought process is that it's not possible if I have no air in my lungs. It can be tested easily in practice. But I want to hear your thoughts, too. Was there ever a case where a person somehow managed to save themselves from the noose with their hands?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

It's not really about having no air in lungs, it's about constricting blood flow into your brain which causes immediate (within 15-30 secs.) unconsciousness. Once you're unconscious you cannot control your body reactions anymore. Most likely you won't be able to reach the branch to pull your self up - after unconsciousness. Your plan seems kinda like partial. Full is definitely the better option, imo.

Was there ever a case where a person somehow managed to save themselves from the noose with their hands?

I think it can work if you're fast enough within a few seconds or if you've not let go. I wouldn't count on it.

 

[qw3rty259]

Your plan seems kinda like partial.

No, as I said, I'm looking for a place where while hung up my body won't touch the ground. The thing is it's not that easy to find a branch that could also allow me to simultaneously hang low enough from the branch to not be able to grip it. That's why I asking. I will obviously look for a place where it's not possible to reach to the branch, but I'm also kinda curious. I expect that I'll definitely try to get out of the noose this way, lol, so I won't give myself any chances

It's not really about having no air in lungs

Well, you can try to do a pull up as it has to be done - breath out when pulling up, and then to try to do it while inhaling and you'll fail.

Well, you can try to do a pull up as it has to be done - breath out when pulling up, and then to try to do it while inhaling and you'll fail

So I imagine, if i hung up myself with some oxygen in my lungs then I have a small chance to do a pull up in the first seconds of the process when I still conscious, if the branch is close enough. So it seems like it's better to do it after an exaltation

 

[Praestat_Mori]

If you've not read this guide:

Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert

This thread is ONLY for those who 1) must do partial/full suspension hanging, and 2) can only resort to using a tree. I was a professional tree climber and trimmer for 5 years, i trimmed/felled trees away from powerlines all over Wyoming, Utah and Idaho. Just thought id give my best insights...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[ctbsd24]

I've not had such an experience in my hanging practice. Once I'm putting sufficient pressure on the carotids, I start to feel weak, tingly, and numb in my extremities. I couldn't imagine attempting a pullup at that point. It basically becomes like a full body paralysis for me. If I was doing a full suspension for real, I imagine I'd swing there helplessly until I passed out.

 

[qw3rty259]

I couldn't imagine attempting a pullup at that point. It basically becomes like a full body paralysis for me.

That's an interesting insight. Thanks for sharing.

Once you're unconscious you cannot control your body reactions anymore.

Btw are you saying that those involuntary convulsions/tingling people who hang themselves have throughout the process are happening while a person is unconscious?

 

[ctbsd24]

I couldn't give you a definitive answer. Based on what I've read in the various hanging threads on this site, consciousness does not last a very long time. It's a matter of seconds. But please do not construe anything I've said as advice, encouragement, etc. I'm just answering based on what I've read as well as my own experience.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yes- it's possible. I chatted with someone here who failed hanging because they grabbed either the rope or the branch subconsciously and pulled themselves up. I don't know if they talked about it on the main forum though.

 

[ctbsd24]

Yes- it's possible. I chatted with someone here who failed hanging because they grabbed either the rope or the branch subconsciously and pulled themselves up. I don't know if they talked about it on the main forum though.

I've never heard of such a thing, but I guess anything is possible. I may end up cuffing my ankles and wrists behind my back to avoid that outcome.

 

[Worndown]

If you are making a serious attempt, try to bind your hands. Quality is not that important since all you need to do is slow your reaction time a few seconds until you pass out.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I've never heard of such a thing, but I guess anything is possible. I may end up cuffing my ankles and wrists behind my back to avoid that outcome.

They must have been strong. I can't even do one pull up! Maybe SI makes us strong though.

I suppose they did restrain the hands when they executed people via hanging. Still, they weren't exactly going willingly!

I don't actually know much about it to be honest. My knots are rubbish. If I got the noose right, you can bet I'd tie the wrong knot to the tree. Do you know how likely it is the neck will break in full suspension? I suppose that's the ideal. I wish I wasn't so squemish about hurting myself.