Can you give yourself a terminal disease?

[Sunlight99]

I don't mean like smoking in hopes you'll get lung cancer one day. I mean something you could do to get a terminal disease within a few years

 

[Chinaski]

If that's your plan, you might as well just...wait.

 

[Volatile]

You can give yourself HIV, Hepatitis through dirty needles.

 

[bbq1]

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[Sunlight99]

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It's always eat sugary foods, don't exercise, smoke cigarretes. I want something more precise and will lead to results sooner.

 

[Chinaski]

I want something more precise and will lead to results sooner.

In whuch case, you'll need a more hands on method

 

[Sayo]

Radiation poisoning / certain doses of other carcinogens? That's legitimately the only thing I can think of that meets your definition.

Cancer is a shit way to go and there are a lot of us here with progressive diseases that aren't progressing fast enough. Depending on where you live, your circumstances, and your willpower, refusing treatment may not be an option (legally) either. I get that some people might want this method to avoid traditional suicide / to have a 'guarantee', but it's torturing yourself unnecessarily if you want to make it look accidental and making yourself wait and suffer in the second case. I don't recommend.

 

[mattwitt]

You can give yourself HIV, Hepatitis through dirty needles.

Or through dirty sex

 

[I’vehadenough]

Radiation poisoning / certain doses of other carcinogens? That's legitimately the only thing I can think of that meets your definition.

Cancer is a shit way to go and there are a lot of us here with progressive diseases that aren't progressing fast enough. Depending on where you live, your circumstances, and your willpower, refusing treatment may not be an option (legally) either. I get that some people might want this method to avoid traditional suicide / to have a 'guarantee', but it's torturing yourself unnecessarily if you want to make it look accidental and making yourself wait and suffer in the second case. I don't recommend.

Why

 

[I’vehadenough]

Why

Is it more painful than suicide?

 

[Sayo]

Why

Why to which part, sorry? I'm gonna assume why I don't recommend, if you wanted something else from me please be more specific.

Anecdote: I've personally experienced being weeks out from death from a brain tumour. I didn't even have headaches or seizures (though I've since had seizures, migraines, limb weakness, and other things from my other tumours, which are now removed before they could come remotely close to killing me), can't imagine tacking that onto it. Protracted symptoms built up over years and the severe ones over six months, I was vomiting every time I moved my head, it would take me two hours to change from lying down to standing up because of the vomiting, dizziness, and tinnitus. I lost half my hearing. I was exhausted, jaundiced, falling in the shower constantly, couldn't hold myself up or walk without losing my balance. I would have eventually gone into a coma and died, probably after a great amount of further discomfort or cognitive change.

I thought about refusing treatment and dying that way, actually, since I'd done a lot of the work, but I was a minor with existing mental illness history, I had basically no chance of successfully taking it to court to be deemed competent to refuse treatment and the surgery was scheduled for two weeks after the diagnosis.

Having been through a sample of this, and knowing what slow death from cancer (even without treatment) is for anyone else, I just cannot recommend it to anyone who could choose, or convince themselves to choose, a more reliable, more peaceful death without the slow torment of waiting. It is all the worst things about suicide - guaranteed damage to your body no matter what you end up choosing, but no guaranteed death, as you may end up changing your mind or capitulating to your body's survival instinct and getting treatment (or being forced into it in many jurisdictions). I understand why someone would choose a 'suboptimal' means of suicide by these metrics to die in the way that feels right to them (artistically, emotionally, spiritually, morally, etc.), but I can't recommend this one and this is my explanation of why.

There is no person who could give themselves a terminal illness who couldn't pursue a different method - I feel like a lot of these threads are created not because the OP wants to die of a terminal illness for any special reason but out of misconceptions about other methods, or feelings that they are somehow more out of reach.

Or if it is that you would not like to die so soon, use the time to enjoy your life as best you can and research a backup plan to give yourself peace of mind.

edit: I saw your second post. Yes, it's probably more painful than most suicides, especially considering the timespan, and it takes a long time, which requires continuous overcoming of the survival instinct as it can be treated at most points (causing your pain to be extended). One thing is you can get painkillers, but most people get theirs through a doctor. There is a lot of nausea / physical pain in the body.

At some point, pain becomes worthwhile to prevent long, drawn out suffering. But there are more peaceful methods discussed on this forum which would probably take less time to arrange, even for people with serious logistical issues. (I am a person with serious logistical issues, I'm not saying that callously)

 

[Jerryman]

Why to which part, sorry? I'm gonna assume why I don't recommend, if you wanted something else from me please be more specific.

Anecdote: I've personally experienced being weeks out from death from a brain tumour. I didn't even have headaches or seizures (though I've since had seizures, migraines, limb weakness, and other things from my other tumours, which are now removed before they could come remotely close to killing me), can't imagine tacking that onto it. Protracted symptoms built up over years and the severe ones over six months, I was vomiting every time I moved my head, it would take me two hours to change from lying down to standing up because of the vomiting, dizziness, and tinnitus. I lost half my hearing. I was exhausted, jaundiced, falling in the shower constantly, couldn't hold myself up or walk without losing my balance. I would have eventually gone into a coma and died, probably after a great amount of further discomfort or cognitive change.

I thought about refusing treatment and dying that way, actually, since I'd done a lot of the work, but I was a minor with existing mental illness history, I had basically no chance of successfully taking it to court to be deemed competent to refuse treatment and the surgery was scheduled for two weeks after the diagnosis.

Having been through a sample of this, and knowing what slow death from cancer (even without treatment) is for anyone else, I just cannot recommend it to anyone who could choose, or convince themselves to choose, a more reliable, more peaceful death without the slow torment of waiting. It is all the worst things about suicide - guaranteed damage to your body no matter what you end up choosing, but no guaranteed death, as you may end up changing your mind or capitulating to your body's survival instinct and getting treatment (or being forced into it in many jurisdictions). I understand why someone would choose a 'suboptimal' means of suicide by these metrics to die in the way that feels right to them (artistically, emotionally, spiritually, morally, etc.), but I can't recommend this one and this is my explanation of why.

There is no person who could give themselves a terminal illness who couldn't pursue a different method - I feel like a lot of these threads are created not because the OP wants to die of a terminal illness for any special reason but out of misconceptions about other methods, or feelings that they are somehow more out of reach.

Or if it is that you would not like to die so soon, use the time to enjoy your life as best you can and research a backup plan to give yourself peace of mind.

edit: I saw your second post. Yes, it's probably more painful than most suicides, especially considering the timespan, and it takes a long time, which requires continuous overcoming of the survival instinct as it can be treated at most points (causing your pain to be extended). One thing is you can get painkillers, but most people get theirs through a doctor. There is a lot of nausea / physical pain in the body.

At some point, pain becomes worthwhile to prevent long, drawn out suffering. But there are more peaceful methods discussed on this forum which would probably take less time to arrange, even for people with serious logistical issues. (I am a person with serious logistical issues, I'm not saying that callously)

Being drawn out doesn't bother me too much as long as the end is in sight, I doubt they can force treatment on you but I'd want the pain relief of which you wouldn't have to worry about addiction. The end being in sight is to me a relief in itself.

 

[Sayo]

Being drawn out doesn't bother me too much as long as the end is in sight, I doubt they can force treatment on you but I'd want the pain relief of which you wouldn't have to worry about addiction. The end being in sight is to me a relief in itself.

I respect that your valuation is very different from mine in that regard - I value immediacy (upon suicidal action) as a means to 'the end', but I can totally appreciate that others might evaluate that differently.

Forced treatment - depends where you live. I imagine it'd be far less of an issue even in America than it is here. I like to get others to think about that, because I find many people don't know their situation in regard to that, and I guess I have a chip on my shoulder about it as an issue. :p

 

[throwaway123]

No, it's difficult.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Why to which part, sorry? I'm gonna assume why I don't recommend, if you wanted something else from me please be more specific.

Anecdote: I've personally experienced being weeks out from death from a brain tumour. I didn't even have headaches or seizures (though I've since had seizures, migraines, limb weakness, and other things from my other tumours, which are now removed before they could come remotely close to killing me), can't imagine tacking that onto it. Protracted symptoms built up over years and the severe ones over six months, I was vomiting every time I moved my head, it would take me two hours to change from lying down to standing up because of the vomiting, dizziness, and tinnitus. I lost half my hearing. I was exhausted, jaundiced, falling in the shower constantly, couldn't hold myself up or walk without losing my balance. I would have eventually gone into a coma and died, probably after a great amount of further discomfort or cognitive change.

I thought about refusing treatment and dying that way, actually, since I'd done a lot of the work, but I was a minor with existing mental illness history, I had basically no chance of successfully taking it to court to be deemed competent to refuse treatment and the surgery was scheduled for two weeks after the diagnosis.

Having been through a sample of this, and knowing what slow death from cancer (even without treatment) is for anyone else, I just cannot recommend it to anyone who could choose, or convince themselves to choose, a more reliable, more peaceful death without the slow torment of waiting. It is all the worst things about suicide - guaranteed damage to your body no matter what you end up choosing, but no guaranteed death, as you may end up changing your mind or capitulating to your body's survival instinct and getting treatment (or being forced into it in many jurisdictions). I understand why someone would choose a 'suboptimal' means of suicide by these metrics to die in the way that feels right to them (artistically, emotionally, spiritually, morally, etc.), but I can't recommend this one and this is my explanation of why.

There is no person who could give themselves a terminal illness who couldn't pursue a different method - I feel like a lot of these threads are created not because the OP wants to die of a terminal illness for any special reason but out of misconceptions about other methods, or feelings that they are somehow more out of reach.

Or if it is that you would not like to die so soon, use the time to enjoy your life as best you can and research a backup plan to give yourself peace of mind.

edit: I saw your second post. Yes, it's probably more painful than most suicides, especially considering the timespan, and it takes a long time, which requires continuous overcoming of the survival instinct as it can be treated at most points (causing your pain to be extended). One thing is you can get painkillers, but most people get theirs through a doctor. There is a lot of nausea / physical pain in the body.

At some point, pain becomes worthwhile to prevent long, drawn out suffering. But there are more peaceful methods discussed on this forum which would probably take less time to arrange, even for people with serious logistical issues. (I am a person with serious logistical issues, I'm not saying that callously)

Thanks for your insight. I'm afraid of suicide Bc of brain damage if I survive and I can't tske pills, so even if I did get an illness, I couldn't treat it

 

[lostinthedream]

as a diabetic i wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy... amputations, organ failure, then finally a stroke or heart attack..

 

[I’vehadenough]

as a diabetic i wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy... amputations, organ failure, then finally a stroke or heart attack..

Do you feel like it's better to commit suicide?

 

[lostinthedream]

Do you feel like it's better to commit suicide?

For everyone that answer is different. I have no significant other or children.. I have packed lightly for this life's journey.. I feel for everyone that's a deeply personal decision. I know the idea of terminal disease and being in a downward spiral in my personal case perhaps is going to be better to CTB.

 

[Alexa]

HIV would be the best way to go about that, some people have a fetish for giving others hiv, so, there you go.

 

[I’vehadenough]

For everyone that answer is different. I have no significant other or children.. I have packed lightly for this life's journey.. I feel for everyone that's a deeply personal decision. I know the idea of terminal disease and being in a downward spiral in my personal case perhaps is going to be better to CTB.

How old are you? I have none of that either

 

[PatKat]

I don't mean like smoking in hopes you'll get lung cancer one day. I mean something you could do to get a terminal disease within a few years

Sadly I have researched this i have smoked 17 years and my risk of lung cancer has only increased .02% :/

 

[CantGoOn]

You can give yourself HIV, Hepatitis through dirty needles.

Out of curiosity where would one find these dirty needles, as in stash of them? Dirty streets or trash can at blood work place I suppose..

 

[Volatile]

Out of curiosity where would one find these dirty needles, as in stash of them? Dirty streets or trash can at blood work place I suppose..

Share needles with junkies. You'll contract something.

 

[lostinthedream]

How old are you? I have none of that either

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