Help calcium nitrate as sn alternative?

[aerilana]

i live in SE asia and there's like no way for me to get my hands on sodium nitrite, but i saw someone selling calcium nitrate and googled to check if it can be used for ctb and apparently it is fatal when ingested and will turn into nitrite once inside your body, but there's not much research about it available so im not really sure if it'll work as peaceful as sn.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00015126809435011

 

[deleteduser34a26]

ppl were just talking about potassium nitrite or something i think the new meta is going to be gobbling random nitrates/nitrites and praying

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

Not nitrate. It's not basically lethal. You need nitrite.

 

[deleteduser34a26]

i jsut checked and yeah the ld50 is like half of sodium nitrite so it seems viable, i might do this
i mean half as in half as potent not half the dose

 

[rozeske]

With the increase in restriction of sodium nitrite the PPH does mention other alternatives.
"Other nitrites also may offer significant end of life potential. These include calcium nitrite, barium nitrite and lithium nitrite
none of which are subject to any specific restriction".
I personally wouldn't trust in them. Not only is there not enough data on them like sn, there also been users that used similar dosage as sn and failed.

 

[aerilana]

found an sn source so i prob wont use this one as an alternative but i will prob just overdose

 

[yxmux]

Are you sure this isn't Google's AI fucking up? Nitrates are generally inert and are quite different from nitrites.

 

[gottacheckout]

Fucked up AI, nitrite is what a person would want not nitrate

 

[aerilana]

Are you sure this isn't Google's AI fucking up? Nitrates are generally inert and are quite different from nitrites.

Fucked up AI, nitrite is what a person would want not nitrate

i read articles about it and it sounds like it does the exact same thing as sn tho not as fast but once ingested it turns into nitrite inside your body.

ingestion: Abdominal pain. Blue lips, fingernails and skin. Confusion. Convulsions. Dizziness. Headache. Nausea. Unconsciousness.
Ingestion could cause effects on the blood. This may result in the formation of methaemoglobin.

ICSC 1037 - CALCIUM NITRATE

Calcium nitrate contains nitrate ions (NO₃⁻). When ingested, these nitrate ions can be converted to nitrite ions (NO₂⁻) in the body, primarily in the gastrointestinal tract. Nitrite ions have the ability to oxidize the iron in hemoglobin from the ferrous (Fe²⁺) to the ferric (Fe³⁺) state, forming methemoglobin. Methemoglobin is unable to bind and transport oxygen effectively, leading to a condition known as methemoglobinemia.

What are the health hazards associated with Calcium Nitrate? - Blog - Crown Champion

What are the health hazards associated with Calcium Nitrate?

www.crownchampion.com

this one is about the effect it has on animals once they ingested the chemical and it looks the exact same thing as what sn does to our body if we ingest it.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00015126809435011

as stated by someone here the ld50 of calcium nitrate is half of sn and there's other pdfs available online that convinces me it is plausible if you've ingested a large amount. i know it's risky so it prob won't be my method but trying to take your own life always has certain risks you just have to decide what method is worth it.

 

[Intoxicated]

as stated by someone here the ld50 of calcium nitrate is half of sn

What's the source? Specifically, relevant human data is what matters here, not LDs for rats or mice.

and there's other pdfs available online that convinces me it is plausible if you've ingested a large amount.

How large? Here's a case of poisoning by 75 g of sodium nitrate

A non-fatal intoxication with a high-dose sodium nitrate - PMC

A 67-year-old man accidentally ingested 75 g of sodium nitrate. He had instant gastrointestinal symptoms. On physical examination, he was respiratorily and haemodynamically stable and there were no signs of central or peripheral cyanosis. Repeated ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

4 hours after ingestion the man was still in a quite satisfactory condition. Calcium nitrate would probably produce a similar effect when taken in the same dosage.