BRAIN ACTIVITY WHEN DYING/WHEN DEATH OCCURS?

[Efilismislife]

Anyone has/read any research of how people who use drug to depressed nervous system and die, is there any research/study detecting/recording if their brain can still shown activity during the dying part/death??

cause i found many researches shown the brain activity/consciousness still can be detected even after cardiac arrest when blood flow shutdown to the brain.

please cause its very important to know if our brain/consciousness really stops working after that or its not otherwise it is a scary thing if we can still feel/theres still brain activity

What Happens to Our Consciousness When We Die?

"Our consciousness, it seems, does not become annihilated just because we've crossed the threshold of death; it appears to keep functioning and not dissipate."

www.newsweek.com

many experience PTSD after resuscitated due to having awareness of their death

AWARE-AWAreness during REsuscitation-a prospective study - PubMed

CA survivors commonly experience a broad range of cognitive themes, with 2% exhibiting full awareness. This supports other recent studies that have indicated consciousness may be present despite clinically undetectable consciousness. This together with fearful experiences may contribute to PTSD...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Fakereality]

those are just various neurons sparkling off, during the dying process our consciousness is the first thing which goes off you go back to the state you were in before you were born it's simple as that your brain or whatever is left behind becomes dead meat, the thing is our body is not just made of our consciousness there are various other organisms us with their own will and stuff which inhabit our body the prime example of that is the brain itself it's an organism which stitches stuff and info together and creates you in the process but during the dying process the brain stop receiving info and inputs and lose many neurons which already goes in self destruct mode at the first sign of oxygen deprivation so what's left is a machine slowly losing heat and dying off its not you.

 

[Efilismislife]

Have your read and watch the study result? Cause that contradicts the research and evidences where many patients who clinically dead but after being able to be resuscitated can tell what happens after their cardiac arrest accours and some experience PTSD.

AWARE-AWAreness during REsuscitation-a prospective study - PubMed

CA survivors commonly experience a broad range of cognitive themes, with 2% exhibiting full awareness. This supports other recent studies that have indicated consciousness may be present despite clinically undetectable consciousness. This together with fearful experiences may contribute to PTSD...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

and also the brain activity still can record/detect consciousness.

those are just various neurons sparkling off, during the dying process our consciousness is the first thing which goes off you go back to the state you were in before you were born it's simple as that your brain or whatever is left behind becomes dead meat, the thing is our body is not just made of our consciousness there are various other organisms us with their own will and stuff which inhabit our body the prime example of that is the brain itself it's an organism which stitches stuff and info together and creates you in the process but during the dying process the brain stop receiving info and inputs and lose many neurons which already goes in self destruct mode at the first sign of oxygen deprivation so what's left is a machine slowly losing heat and dying off its not you.

It seems like destroying the brain competely in a second is the best way to go.

Otherwise the brain neurons can still work for a while until the process complete and every brain cells fully died

 

[Fakereality]

Have your read and watch the study result? Cause that contradicts the research and evidences where many patients who clinically dead but after being able to be resuscitated can tell what happens after their cardiac arrest accours and some experience PTSD.

AWARE-AWAreness during REsuscitation-a prospective study - PubMed

CA survivors commonly experience a broad range of cognitive themes, with 2% exhibiting full awareness. This supports other recent studies that have indicated consciousness may be present despite clinically undetectable consciousness. This together with fearful experiences may contribute to PTSD...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

and also the brain activity still can record/detect consciousness.



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News Channels love nothing more than sensionalizing things they are rarely about spreading the exact truth.
And brain like all other organs has the ability to heal itself so it's possible that if a person has been in some accident or like a failed suicide attempt brain could somehow salvage the consciousness back into existence by restructing itself though that still leaves the person with brain dramage and stuff and it's a rare occurrence all together you need to be timely after the neurons starts their suicide because of oxygen deprivation the window to bring consciousness back into existence becomes very very small its that's why if brain lose oxygen and blood supply it can survive upto 3 minutes without major brain damage because neurons hadn't gone into suicide mode but after those 3 minutes pass it becomes a hard to win lottery your brain will lose it's ability to bring you back with each neuron it loses.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Who cares? What matters is if we actually affect any possible "afterlife" by CingTB, and very few people will ever reach any knowledge about if that is the case. And those who do might be deluded in some sense and then spread that shit to others. So far I've heard a bunch of claims that go in all sorts of directions, and what makes most sense to me is that suicide won't really have a difference unless one were planning on reaching spiritual enlightenment instead of killing themselves (super-fucking-likely).

 

[Alwaysbadtime]

People have enough problems to not have to worry about this. Yes, this information is scary...but I think it's counterproductive to entertain this notion.

 

[watchingthewheels]

I heard that you can still feel pain even after you've been buried 6 feet under, and after your brain has turned to mush and your body has been consumed by worms...scary, if true!

;)

 

[Someonewhotypes]

IDK if this might interest you, but I remembered reading about a lady who suffered cardiac arrest due to being submerged in frozen water.
The article says she wasn't breathing, pupils dilated, no pulse, but she woke up after some days and made an almost full recovery.

Anna Bågenholm - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sure, this is only one case. There have been others who wake up after being kept alive by machines.
But thing is...can we say she was dead when they rescued her and she showed no signs of life initially?
If she was dead, then she wouldn't have woken up afterwards.
But I think that our limits for when we pronounce people dead have constantly been moved as medicine has advanced.
So what we might now say is a dead human, we might say it was a coma in the future or something.
I don't think there is an exact point at which we can say someone is dead. Maybe there's still brain activity which we can't detect.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

those are just various neurons sparkling off, during the dying process our consciousness is the first thing which goes off you go back to the state you were in before you were born it's simple as that your brain or whatever is left behind becomes dead meat, the thing is our body is not just made of our consciousness there are various other organisms us with their own will and stuff which inhabit our body the prime example of that is the brain itself it's an organism which stitches stuff and info together and creates you in the process but during the dying process the brain stop receiving info and inputs and lose many neurons which already goes in self destruct mode at the first sign of oxygen deprivation so what's left is a machine slowly losing heat and dying off its not you.

If the neuroscientists admit they don't understand what this means, why would the lay have any better insights? There's nothing "simple" about this--at least not to me. Science often turns out to be far weirder than we would have imagined. And human perceptions of the natural world often turn out to be wrong. At the least, the question of what happens to consciousness at or after death remains important and valid. It could have implications, for example, for what we do with bodies just after medical teams determine they've died.

Hope I wasn't offensive. It's just that to me this is a fascinating area of research that, I'd think, would be immensely important to those of us considering ending our lives.

It seems like destroying the brain competely in a second is the best way to go.

Otherwise the brain neurons can still work for a while until the process complete and every brain cells fully died

My thoughts, too. This is one reason I continue to lean towards a very powerful shotgun...

 

[demuic]

Have your read and watch the study result? Cause that contradicts the research and evidences where many patients who clinically dead but after being able to be resuscitated can tell what happens after their cardiac arrest accours and some experience PTSD.

AWARE-AWAreness during REsuscitation-a prospective study - PubMed

CA survivors commonly experience a broad range of cognitive themes, with 2% exhibiting full awareness. This supports other recent studies that have indicated consciousness may be present despite clinically undetectable consciousness. This together with fearful experiences may contribute to PTSD...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

and also the brain activity still can record/detect consciousness.



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It seems like destroying the brain competely in a second is the best way to go.

Otherwise the brain neurons can still work for a while until the process complete and every brain cells fully died

It's all nothing but speculation. "Studies" like that tend to be flawed and biased as they're clearly just trying to paint a picture of what they already believe is true.

This study has clearly been sensationalized and I don't see any evidence for the claim that consciousness continues after death.

If they are able to be revived then they are not dead yet whether anyone would like to put the word "clinical" in front of it or not. Once you're actually dead, you're dead forever.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

It's all nothing but speculation. "Studies" like that tend to be flawed and biased as they're clearly just trying to paint a picture of what they already believe is true.

A few ideas I hope don't offend anyone. All empiricism is subject to bias. Especially at forefront research, we often don't have guideposts for what constitutes reliability. This comes as a discipline, like neuroscience or particle physics, matures. I don't see a good reason to dismiss this novel research as speculative--at least no more substantive a reason than those much of psychological research rests on. Dr. Parnia and his research teams around the world are very careful to point out they're making claims only about their clinical findings. And other biomedical teams that have reviewed Parnia's team's research (like Dr. Jerry Nolan, Editor in Chief of Resuscitation Journal) find the research important for its implications for patient resuscitation.

If they are able to be revived then they are not dead yet whether anyone would like to put the word "clinical" in front of it or not. Once you're actually dead, you're dead forever.

I agree that what "dead" means evolves with our understanding of physiology and our technology. It's research like Parnia's that's advancing our understanding of death. Like you, I also feel (true) death is irreversible. But the researchers aren't claiming otherwise. They're claiming that the brain doesn't die all at once as had previously been believed, and that among some patients who satisfy the current clinical criteria of death, there is evidence of awareness after the heart has stopped beating. Regardless of the popular media's sensationalism, these assertions aren't un-scientific. They push the boundary of when death occurs--like new technology continues to push the boundary of what "cancer-free" means.

I'm not trying to upset anyone, but for me, it's important that some kind of consciousness, awareness might persist for even minutes after I'd think I'm dead. I might choose a different means, for example, or want my body to be in a different environment while I'm dying.

None of us has to care about any of this, but dismissing the published studies as just speculation, I think, hampers the development of the neuroscience into what brain-death is. Here's to a peaceful end for all who want it.

 

[Jumping_realms]

Not buying it because that's not what happened to me at all.

Death doesn't hurt, being brought back does, though.