Chupacabra 44

Chupacabra 44

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Sep 13, 2020
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This article is lengthy and lacks some references for some of its claims that I would have preferred to see, but I think information like this is empowering for patients to better comprehend what's involved between physicians and pharmaceutical companies. These unscrupulous activities are in no way unique to Gabapentin and its "marketing" efforts. It's just that I'm back on Gabapentin. Hence, I'm reading more about it.

I was unfamiliar with the publication Vice, so I dug into its history, and it has an extremely checkered past, but I decided to post anyway. There is plenty of quoted content, and unless this stuff was pulled out of thin air, it's worth the read. I speculate that if I were so inclined that I could find the original source of most the author's statements.

Even if you are not on Gabapentin, but on different pharmaceuticals, I would suggest reading the article to understand that your physician my very well not have your best interest at heart. Money talks.

@Sherri

 
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Wow. Great read, thanks for sharing.
 
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"Gabapentin"? These medicine names are getting more Lovecraftian every generation.
 
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I was physically addicted to this drug after taking it for nerve pain. It was ineffectual so I was quickly bumped to the maximum dose of 3600mg daily without being warned of its addictive effects. After they messed up my prescriptions I went cold turkey; even when I managed to get it again and tried to taper off it was the most awful experience of my life. I was extremely ill for months and they did nothing to support me...
Same with Tramadol; decent painkiller but with a hidden SSRI side that they don't talk about and that you generally aren't aware of until you experience the side effects and/or research it yourself...
Now I never take anything without extensive research first!!
 
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Chupacabra 44

Chupacabra 44

If boredom were a CTB method, I would be long gone
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I ask two questions whenever any physician wants to put me on a specific medication:

1) Is the med weight neutral? Being fit is one of the few positive things I have in my f**ked up life. Thus, I won't let any medication I take make me over weight or obese.

2) Can I take it prn (as needed, as opposed to every day)? This affords me the flexibility to trial and error to limit the toxic intake of my medications. I strive to juggle the least amount of toxicity with the maximum amount of benefit.

If the answer is "no" to either of the above questions, then I ask what my options are where both my concerns are met. Sometimes, like with my thyroid, there is no option, so I take Synthroid every day.

@Sheri. Gabapentin can be taken prn, as confirmed by my former psychiatrist. Let me read your Gabapentin thread to see what you have to say over there. I'll comment either here or there as to my experience on it currently.

@Sheri, one thing I'll observe is that you seem to be given plenty of medications. Some physicians are conservative and stingy with meds and others hand meds out like candy. There is no guidebook from med school to govern each physician's approach - each uses their discretion, but keep in mind they oftentimes receive perks and kick backs from the pharmaceutical reps, as illustrated in the above article. You seem to potentially have a physician(s) who falls into the latter category, and they are treating this stuff like candy, especially the doctor giving you Zyprexa exclusively for insomnia.

My most recent psychiatrist fell into the "candy" category, and he tried to add a bunch of additional meds each time I saw him, and I said, "no" to him every time. Dude was a quack, and I no longer see him.

As soon as any physician tries to give me another med to offset side effects from one of my existing meds, it's a huge red flag in my book. I always decline this option, and if warranted that is when I seek out a new physician.
I was physically addicted to this drug after taking it for nerve pain. It was ineffectual so I was quickly bumped to the maximum dose of 3600mg daily without being warned of its addictive effects. After they messed up my prescriptions I went cold turkey; even when I managed to get it again and tried to taper off it was the most awful experience of my life. I was extremely ill for months and they did nothing to support me...
Same with Tramadol; decent painkiller but with a hidden SSRI side that they don't talk about and that you generally aren't aware of until you experience the side effects and/or research it yourself...
Now I never take anything without extensive research first!!

I'm sorry to read your story. It's unfortunate, but stories like these are extremely common with all these meds used to treat, at least in part, psychiatric conditions.

The medical community turns a blind eye to these issues. In fact, when they do acknowledge "potential" (haha) withdrawal issues, the industry sugar coats its nomenclature and calls it "discontinuance syndrome". F**king joke.

The community hides behind lack of evidence regarding withdrawal for any of these meds. Golly, why is there lack of evidence? Because, the pharmaceutical companies are not going to fund anything that jeopardizes their cash cow(s). Anyone think any pharmaceutical company is going to fund a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study to investigate withdrawal symptoms from their medications? Never in a million years. Hence, the "lack of evidence".

The internet is full of people suffering from withdrawal from all these psych meds. This is all the "evidence" I need to form my own conclusions. Thus, I'm extremely cautious with my decisions regarding what meds I decide to take, and I would never blindly trust any doctor to put me on any medication.

Everyone should do their own research. It does not take much to learn from other's experience through Google or from this forum.

My endocrinologist recently was yelling at me, because I researched and opted not to go on statins given my personal variables. (Talk about an over prescribed, shakey/scammy medication surrounded with flawed research, which makes billions of dollars annually). He screamed at me in pure frustration for me to "stop being my own doctor". Haha. That is not going to happen.

I read the mathematically probabilites of having a cardiovascular event in the next ten years based on my coronary calcium score. The research shows the reduction of risk with statins is mathematically insignificant, for my situation, in my opinion, especially when considering the common side effects.

In an effort to get me on statins, my endo told me that he blindly listens to his own medical specialists and does exactly what each tells him, and I thought "well, that's your problem, and I'm smarter than that, because I do my own research and read the studies".
 
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I heard that pharmaceutical companies make virtually no profit in countries like the UK and other European nations that have legal restrictions on pricing. So they top up by charging extra in the US,where most people use private insurance companies.
But Americans spend $43 billion a year on alternative health,that largely relies on the placebo effect.
Most people aren't even aware that chiropracters are not real doctors and their practices actually cause strokes and death.
Homeopathy is just very dilute medication and naturopaths are out to sell you as many useless supplements as possible(expensive piss).
 
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I only skimmed the article, but I've read similar things about gabapentin before. I can't seem to remember specifically where I read about it, unfortunately. Pfizer was actually brought to court on RICO charges for the way it marketed gabapentin, which gives you a sense of just how egregious their methods must have been.
 
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To anyone who has taken Gababentin. Do you feel any type of high from it? Does it make you tired and/or cause relaxation?
 
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I took it for a while for nerve pain alongside opioids - zombies me out rather than got me high. Slept a lot.
High doses for a long time lead to a helluva time coming off it - withdrawal was a real bitch! Full on sweats, vomiting, in and out of consciousness… on the whole not fun.
Wish I'd've researched it before ever taking it tbh, not worth it in my opinion, better stuff out there.
Good luck!
 
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