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This topic has been debated a lot across the forums, and I really haven't found a perfectly clear solution to it.
For a lot of us, the fear of pain is one of biggest factor of preventing CTB, and reason for taking benzo is to alleviate this factor by sedating us w/ peaceful death.
However, there are some conflicting answers regarding this:
Anyways -back to benzos
To a lot of us, benzo to this dosage/effect would not be something we are familiar with since we are either benzo-naive or just dosing for therapy. Could someone more familiar with benzo interactions in personal fashion help out?
Benzo/BZD/benzodiazepine conversion calc:
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For a lot of us, the fear of pain is one of biggest factor of preventing CTB, and reason for taking benzo is to alleviate this factor by sedating us w/ peaceful death.
However, there are some conflicting answers regarding this:
- PPH suggests taking benzo AFTER SN, with 20x30mg Oxazepam tablets (or other equivalent), crushed and mixed with water
- PPH reports that 10-12 minute is onset of unconsciousness after SN
- purpose in PPH is to speed the loss of consciousness taken w/ agent
- Users who have reportedly taken SN w/o sedating agents reports feeling the pain/discomfort effects kick in 5-10minutes after consuming SN, and 10-20minutes afterwards both in/out of consciousness.
- Anecdotally, other users have been afraid of SI/pain kicking in before benzos kick in and have been taking it 30min-1hr before SN and some have reported failuredue to benzo effect kicking in before being able to take SN
- reason for failure: Sedation effect way before ability to take SN
Anyways -back to benzos
- Under normal circumstances, the onset (if taken immediate release/tablets) of regular dose of benzo is 1-2 hrs, with time to peak in blood varying from 1-4hours depending on benzo taken.
- But our aim is different: this is only if we are taking regular therapeutic dose
- Our aim is not therapeutic effect, instead sedating us to point SI/pain would affect us less.
- people are mistakenly taking loading dose as regular onset dose- primary cause of failure to even take SN in first place.
- We are taking a much bigger loading dose(10-20x regular dose, meaning higher levels of drug in blood lot faster), meaning we would need to balance it out with its effect w/ SN
- Question: how long would spacing needed to offset the effect of SN pain/discomfort?
- PPH recommendation is taken w/ SN to speed effect, but this isn't ideal for some of us as we would be in discomfort
- What would be ideal time spaced between between SN & Benzo to maximize peacefulness?
- Question: how long would spacing needed to offset the effect of SN pain/discomfort?
To a lot of us, benzo to this dosage/effect would not be something we are familiar with since we are either benzo-naive or just dosing for therapy. Could someone more familiar with benzo interactions in personal fashion help out?
Benzo/BZD/benzodiazepine conversion calc:
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Benzodiazepine Conversion Calculator
The benzodiazepine conversion calculator adjusts doses between converting oral benzodiazepines.
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