I think everyone's idea of beauty is subjective. I could probably find so much beauty in just average looking people, but so many other people would call them ugly. I think it really changes as you get older, and as you grow as a person. When I was younger, I was super strict with very high standards of what was beautiful. I wanted to be beautiful so badly, I was beautiful (before my drug addiction), I could have used a nose job maybe but I used makeup to make myself beautiful (I prefer myself without makeup tbh), I have been told by hundreds of people that I am beautiful, but these people just have a completely different view of what is beautiful. I would be considered average, in my opinion by conventional standards, someone once told me I was prettier than the kardashians! I just about laughed in his face, clearly he was blind and senile, and there's a big difference between photos/video and meeting a live person infront of you so I can kind of understand where he's coming from, plus he was about to have sex so there's that (I was a sex worker), sexual arousal makes ANYONE look beautiful, believe me, you could be the fattest, greasiest looking person, and there will be people out there that will think you're the most beautiful thing ever. I have seen it myself in my years of sex work. You wouldn't believe the things I've heard and seen, and for women who are wanting attraction from men, this is what I'm talking about. A lot of these men are real men, with families and wives and beautiful girlfriends that text them constantly asking where they are, a lot of them are extremely attractive, I've had clients who were so good looking I would be so intimidated to see them, I absolutely had to wear makeup and fix my hair before I saw them because I was so insecure because a lot of good looking people are very superficial (the sex wasn't good or better with them, it was the same dry sex that I had with all my clients lol, I don't get aroused by strangers, I need emotional connection). So the clients are not all old, wrinkly perverted men, they are ALL men from all different backgrounds, men that plenty of women would die for. Every man has his own personal taste, and there are so many different types of them. There is conventionally attractive, but there are plenty of "conventionally attractive" people that aren't considered attractive by many people, everyone is different. There are men who prefer fat women, big beautiful women, BBW. And there are women who prefer average guys, a lot of women like "bad dangerous guys", no matter how "ugly" and fat he is by conventional standards, as long as he's powerful in some other way, it turns them on.
I'm not photogenic at all, I look like a mutant in candid pictures, but I can take good selfies if I tried, but it wouldn't portray the real me. But I think no matter what you look like, for those of you who are average like me and under average, there will always be people who will find you beautiful, some will think you're the most beautiful person they have ever seen, I have met people like that who thought that about me, they wanted to marry me on the spot (they're pathetic imo). I don't know if it has something to do with age, I know when you're younger, there is so much pressure, or it depends on your environment, your workplace, maybe you have a type of job where it pays to be better looking, or you are around people who are better looking than you, maybe your siblings or your kids are better looking than you and you wished you could be like that. I read a comment here about wishing to be a queen with dozens of guys, clearly that is something a kid would say. There's also social media, social media is horrible. Seriously the selfies, I used to take selfies on a webcam and digital camera before the smartphones existed. I know that you can manipulate the camera and make yourself look completely different, there's also photoshop, and filters.
Trust me, beauty doesn't last. Beauty is also hard work for a lot of people, you think these people are just naturally gorgeous? Not all of them, it's extremely rare to find a true natural beauty where they don't need to do a thing to themselves, no makeup, they could turn heads in a potato sack (why would you want that attention is beyond me, it's scary to have that creep predator attention trust me I've been there, I used to get cat called on the streets when I was 15 in sweat pants walking home from school). The celebrities and people that have been posted in this thread, they probably spend hours on beauty routines, and working out, spa treatments, makeup, hair salon treatments, nails, freaking plastic surgery, botox, eyelash extensions, permanent makeup, the fucking list goes on. Why would you want that life!!? It's insecure. Time goes by so fast, before you know it, you'll start getting wrinkles and losing hair, so if you're wanting to CTB because you think you're ugly, and that's the only thing in your life that sucks, meaning, everything else in your life is good like you have a stable mind, and stable life, please don't waste it. But I'm not going to sit here and tell you what to do, I'm an advocate for less population, but I wouldn't want someone to kill themselves because they thought they were ugly, it won't change anything and it won't help anything, all I'm saying is, there is SO MUCH more to life than looks. I say that as an ugly person now, I am super creepy looking now from the drug abuse, and the scars of pimple picking on my face, people would be terrified to look like me LOL, I look normal under dim lighting hah, but as soon as the lights turn bright, I'm super ugly and my mom hates it so much she constantly harrasses me to improve my looks. My teeth are ruined from smoking cigarettes and abusing it, from smoking heroin for 11 years, I barely shower or wash my face so I have dead skin layered, my hair is thin and greasy, I was born with thin hair my mom has thin ass hair, everyone in my ethnicity is supposed to have thick luscious hair and huge boobs, I grew up with the flattest chest, as a highschooler and young woman, it was infuriating, now it's not flat anymore because I gained weight, but now I wish it was, I hate boobs. I hate feeling sexual in any way, I hate being the subject of sexual desire, and attraction, I just want to be ignored and blend in.
Its not the good looks... Its what good looks can get you, and if one does not have good looks how that impacts and shapes ones life. Anybody who isn't willing to admit that many people have natural born advantages is intellectually dishionest. Being born beautiful is an asset just like being born rich or in a wealthy 1st world country. Of course it doesnt gurantee--- but only an idiot would say how one looks has no bearing whatsoever on ones life (not saying you are saying that)....
Why is such a basic obsevation so hard for people? lol
No you're absolutely right and I agree, BUT, is the lack of beauty REALLY the only reason someone would want to die? Really? Come on, there is clearly more to it then that. And I'm sorry but good looks doesn't always get you positive things, good looks gets unwanted attention, sexual harassment, judgement, jealousy, abuse, etc. Someone in this thread already said that but I really need to reiterate that, it seems hard for people to understand. People who are born good looking, don't automatically come with a brain to match. Maybe they're asexual, and aromantic, and sex repulsed, and totally against and uncomfortable with any type of sexual attention, there are plenty of good looking people out there like that. Good looks won't make you a multi-millionaire CEO, look at Mark Zuckerberg, and Bill Gates, and all the rich people, barely any of them are good looking by conventional standards. Look at Mark Zuckerberg's wife. Good looks may get you ahead in some spaces of life, but a lot of people are envious and downright hateful of good looking people, so they wouldn't want them around, it makes them feel worse about themselves. The only places I can see where good looks will really get you ahead is in the entertainment and sex industry, and maybe the customer service industry like if you're a real estate agent or something. Literally in no other industry does looks matter, in my opinion, I'm probably forgetting something you can correct me on it. Not in the medical field, financial, industrial, science and research, technology, ecology, etc. There are pro's and con's to it, it's probably much easier to be good looking as a young person, that's probably where it matters the most, like in school - but I've known gorgeous girls in school that were total fuck ups because they got raped and abused as kids, and turned to drugs and cigarettes and nobody cared about them, they were "trashy" and "slutty", even while being drop dead gorgeous. There's this girl who has always been gorgeous, everyone always said it's such a shame she was born into such a horrible life of abuse and poverty, because she's such a "pretty girl", like her face and her body is 10/10 natural beauty, she could put so many celebrities to shame, but she dropped out of highschool, ended up on heroin and crack, and became a prostitute. She was having anal sex with her clients for $200 and less, doing risky painful sexual acts for nothing, she became anorexic, I feel so sorry for her because of the anal sex thing ugh, that's the worst. She actually gained some weight back, and I saw her photos again online (she shows her face in her ads), and she's still sooo pretty! Even after all the years of drug abuse and sex abuse, she's such a pretty girl, it's sad, and her life is horrific.
