Beautiful, athletic, ivy league, suicided.

[ocheeva]

Do you guys know the story of Madison Holleran? A girl with a seemingly perfect life who killed herself back in 2014. Jumping.

I wonder, does anyone here have a "seemingly perfect life" and want to ctb?

 

[allym101]

I wouldn't say my life is perfect however physically I've been granted everything that could've given me a great life. I come from a pretty well off family, I have supportive loving parents, I'm smart but I'm also relatively attractive, and I can get along with people when I put in the effort. It just comes down to it emotionally I guess. I'm my own worst enemy in this world. No one has pushed me to feel the way I feel but me. It's a little to complicated to put in words but I don't think this body was made for me. I feel like my mind and body are two completely different beings, I'm just gonna put an end to it all together.

 

[GoBack]

There is no perfect life. And if there was, as soon as you achieve that perfect life is when something will happen and turn it all to crap again

 

[plough22]

People look in and see house car job friends, ok looking, but I'm really messed up in my head and all caused by someone else who was close to me. Piece of advice, when someone goes out to destroy you, they can, look at the worst they can do and plan for it. I want to die, but I want to die right. I am planning my process and timing.
Rant over: dependent on ones life and circumstances. Looks, what you have obtained does not matter.

 

[I screwed up]

Yes I had kindof perfect life .. Till I went and screwed it all up ... Hence my user name

 

[mathieu]

Mental illness doesn't discriminate.

 

[Painless_end]

Didn't know her till now. Apparently she jumped.

Sorry for her family, but I am envious of her finding a place and actually going through with it. She's free now.

 

[Oblivion]

reminds me of the song "man of the world"

 

[ceelo]

Do you guys know the story of Madison Holleran? A girl with a seemingly perfect life who killed herself back in 2014. Jumping.

I wonder, does anyone here have a "seemingly perfect life" and want to ctb?

yep i did have until random illness robbed it all from me.

 

[262653]

I had a classmate. Smart, athletic and pretty. No, he wasn't suicidal, but he was my role model and the major reason I started working out.
Imagine this Madison being someone others look up for as an example, and then she kills herself. What a mindfuck, lol.

 

[Amnesty]

Yes. Pratically everyone still likes me despite screwing everyone over and making their lives miserable by being difficult to deal with. :\

 

[S7W5115A9H0]

I think the main problem is that people are just looking at the surface and thus, assume that if someone looks happy and successful, they are also happy. But if you have achieved all what you wanted but you realise that these achievement don't make you happy but just put more pressure on you, then your seemingly perfect life is just a farce. Society tells us to always improve and get better, earn more, improve education and so on in order to be happy. And you just spend so much time believing that all your efforts will pay off and as soon as you have achieved most of the goals you just realise that with improving and getting better also expectations rise and people start more and more to see your efforts as normal and expect you to always maintain or even further increase the effort. So there is no limit and you will never achieve your perfect life. This can be damn depressing. Moreover, there is so much pressure and nobody understands why you might feel down or depressed because you have "such a perfect life" in their eyes. But sometimes just a calm life travelling around without pressure and expectations would be a better life. People looking at my Instagram and in general on my life would think I had a perfect life. And just measuring it by "success" and "achievements" valued by society, that's true. I was a successful professional athlete in my teens, I am about to finish my master with good grades from a good university and have already a great job. Everybody is telling me the world is open to me. But I still feel restless and have lost connection to myself. I am my worst enemy and I am stuck in a vicious circle of perfectionism and never being enough, self-hate and not understanding why I have deserved where I am right now.

 

[Fedrea]

Good looks, physical health and affluence can obviously go along way towards making somebody happy, but a person's sense of self is everything. I'd rather be a poor woman in chronic pain living in a council house happy with herself than a beautiful rich woman struggling with her sense of self

 

[Justinian]

Good looks, physical health and affluence can obviously go along way towards making somebody happy, but a person's sense of self is everything. I'd rather be a poor woman in chronic pain living in a council house happy with herself than a beautiful rich woman struggling with her sense of self

That's true. I envy people who have so much less than me but are so much happier. Not sure about chronic pain though.

 

[Élégie]

"Her seemingly perfect life"... well, it obviously wasn't that perfect. No one knows what really goes on behind closed doors...

 

[AcornUnderground]

I think that this is a very sad case, only because her mental anguish was acute. With no history of mental illness prior to this very abrupt change in her life - moving away from home to college, a difficult school and the pressure of the track team - with her history of perfectionism she may have just not known how to cope. I believe she could have had a very good chance at recovery.

 

[Fedrea]

That's true. I envy people who have so much less than me but are so much happier. Not sure about chronic pain though.

It depends on the level of chronic pain. I had a constant headache for two years at the same time as having moderate depression. It was much much much better than having severe depression. I suppose I was lucky that the headache went away. Chronic pain can obviously vary from mild to severe.

 

[voltage268]

Good article about her encapsulating a lot of what's been said here

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[LastFlowers]

No, I don't have any of those things and I have no interest in playing up the deaths of those who did, or talking about them. They had enough in life, I would rather not waste my breath on them in death, but rather the people who went without-who we usually never hear about in comparison. She was never without the things she had so obviously she could not appreciate them in the same way, and found something else to thread misery or impulse from. Which is possible for everyone. Like I've said before on this forum, we are all the victims of our own stories. Even if someone has everything else we needed and wanted to live a fulfilling and comfortable life, they will find a way to spin it into something dreary from their perspective. And that can lead to an outcome like this.

Good looks, physical health and affluence can obviously go along way towards making somebody happy, but a person's sense of self is everything. I'd rather be a poor woman in chronic pain living in a council house happy with herself than a beautiful rich woman struggling with her sense of self

I wouldn't. Considering most people struggle with a sense of self anyway. And the odds of the poor woman you speak of being happy with herself vs the the well-off woman, are extremely low..there would have to be other factors at play on both sides.

 

[pian]

Suicide stories like these hit different. It's easier to empathize with the "ugly" and unemployed guy's suicide, than the high achieving girl's suicide. At least for me. Both are sad, but it's harder to understand her story. She fit society's superficial requirements for success and happiness, but I guess even she had her own demons.

It's just all so depressing. If even people like her can be suicidal, then what's the point of fighting it at all?

I used to be pretty high functioning, but I still felt like shit all the time. Success doesn't equal happiness. Happiness comes before success and it's just so damn unobtainable.

 

[ceelo]

She was probably a perfectionist, no matter how high you climb its never good enough and you endlessly berate yourself creating ridiculous impossible standards to live by, i did this to. Theres a big difference between perfectionism and striving for excellence, the first is poisonous and the latter is healthy.

 

[BridgeJumper]

People are trying to tell me that I have a perfect life because Im healthy, I have money, food, family and a roof over my head.
But my family is heartless towards me, and Im not healthy! My physical health makes me want to kill myself but nobody believes its that bad since I dont have cancer or shit and they cant see my pain. And Ive been depressed since I was a kid.

My point is that, people can have secrets I guess?
I have a friend who is the most cheerful, funny and supportive person I have ever met - but in reality shes been raped 2 times, has severe depression and ptsd, and cries herself to sleep everyday.

 

[Whatsthepointanyway]

Do you guys know the story of Madison Holleran? A girl with a seemingly perfect life who killed herself back in 2014. Jumping.

I wonder, does anyone here have a "seemingly perfect life" and want to ctb?

I think societal expectations are a big driver of depression and suicide. Suicide rates increase in developed countries, the theory being that if you have the 'perfect' life and you're still unhappy, you feel nothing can possibly ever make you content.

When people stop trying to live up to those expectations it's liberating. I left a responsible job in London to run away to Mexico. It definitely helped for a while. Unfortunately I've had some horrible events in my life lately that have driven me down. But I do think that accepting you don't have to live by society's expectations really helps you find contentment

 

[Fedrea]

No, I don't have any of those things and I have no interest in playing up the deaths of those who did, or talking about them. They had enough in life, I would rather not waste my breath on them in death, but rather the people who went without-who we usually never hear about in comparison. She was never without the things she had so obviously she could not appreciate them in the same way, and found something else to thread misery or impulse from. Which is possible for everyone. Like I've said before on this forum, we are all the victims of our own stories. Even if someone has everything else we needed and wanted to live a fulfilling and comfortable life, they will find a way to spin it into something dreary from their perspective. And that can lead to an outcome like this.

I wouldn't. Considering most people struggle with a sense of self anyway. And the odds of the poor woman you speak of being happy with herself vs the the well-off woman, are extremely low..there would have to be other factors at play on both sides.

I disagree. I have been that person with multiple chronic physical health problems but a decent sense of self.

 

[itsamadworld]

I think societal expectations are a big driver of depression and suicide. Suicide rates increase in developed countries, the theory being that if you have the 'perfect' life and you're still unhappy, you feel nothing can possibly ever make you content.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. I think expectations put on people to be someone they are not, can lead to depression and increased suicide. Some people have personalities that are meant for a fast paced, competitive, socially complex, success driven societies of the developed world. They are like the men and women on the reality show called "shark-tank", Alpha personalities, entrepreneurs, people centered, and extroverted. In the developed world, if you are a sensitive person, more introverted, more in tune with nature, and require more time to process the environment (which would have served one better in a less fast-paced, simpler society with this type of personality)- it is going to be difficult for that latter to live in such a fast paced society, which puts demands on everyone to be a leader-type person. Societal expectations that are placed on people, some personalities are going do better in the developed world....but many others will not fair so well.....

 

[Sail_to_Infinity]

Ruslana Korshunova was a beautiful model with one of the most perspective face in the buisness at the beginning of her career, posing for the biggest designers around the world, earning tousands of dolars before her 18'. She also jumped :/ As somebody mentioned above - mental illness doesn't discriminate like people does :)

 

[jrums]

I know this story as the girl lived near where I live. It's sad for sure but the only reason we know her story is because she was an attractive young girl. Period. Makes for a good story. An ugly guy with a tragic life nobody seems to give a fuck about. Just how it is in our superficial society.

 

[itsamadworld]

I know this story as the girl lived near where I live. It's sad for sure but the only reason we know her story is because she was an attractive young girl. Period. Makes for a good story. An ugly guy with a tragic life nobody seems to give a fuck about. Just how it is in our superficial society.

I agree with you. Unfortunately the world in general is superficial AF. And there's too many people on this planet, not enough understanding to go around, not enough resources or the lack of knowledge how to distribute them fairly, human sexuality favors certain traits, humans are very controlling over EVERYTHING on this planet including other humans,; certain personality traits, looks, races, classes, religions, societies, family origins are preferred, rewarded and favored over others; almost every pleasure has a consequence, 'mother 'nature is always trying to kill us, and 'she' doesn't like to be controlled either, Rampant materialism has destroyed not only the planet, but has lead to a souless society and negated emotional needs, more people, more problems and more people to expirience Mental Illness, and then there is religion and the government, they don't like to give out any freedoms or liberties at all unless it benefits themselves......etc... :) But there's always HOPE! lol....That's what I SHOULD tell you! lol Because people hate negativity....it upsets mommy and daddy govt.....haha....Hope is sure dope!

Ruslana Korshunova was a beautiful model with one of the most perspective face in the buisness at the beginning of her career, posing for the biggest designers around the world, earning tousands of dolars before her 18'. She also jumped :/ As somebody mentioned above - mental illness doesn't discriminate like people does :)

I think certain societies create people like this. Too high pressure, high performance driven...and certain minds are not "wired" to handle it. Life can feel like a prison for certain individuals. I wonder if some people would have done better in a previous era? For instance, I think some would have fared better pre-technology, and others to not be born at all. For instance , some of the people modern medicine keep alive today. Like a baby with a deformed face, missing 3 of 4 limbs! And modern medicine calls that A MIRACLE ! Well, I call that TORTURE! Maybe the world would be better to close up the gap a little bit... But today's world is so hyper Pro-life, that for people with disabilities, chronic illness/pain, chronic depression and anxiety, mental illnesses in general, deformities- we are told to LOVE THIS WORLD OR ELSE they will make it harder on us... Just the control, and the prevailing attitude way of this world, this dystopia is upsetting to me. BUt I am told that I am a bad person for feeling this way.