Razor67
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- Apr 11, 2022
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I hear you. Would like to meet the "architect" and have a few questions… being pretty blunt probably in my comments, to say the least"I request a rollback." (return my late partner)
It would be incredibly cruel for a simulation. I'd like to punch whomever was in charge.
what do you think?
Little bit crazy ideas maybe. It was Created by us and created to see where we went wrong as maybe we destroyed ourselves with nukes or something else and a small group that survived created a simulation of the world from the start to see if they could have prevented this and probably also use time travel or by another highly advanced civilization creating many simulations to see multiple results and getting data for there own benefit. A type 3 or maybe even 4 civilization that would be able to travel everywhere and basically control the universe. Use black holes and millions of starts to harvest energy. Almost like a god like civilization. That had a head start of us in maybe hundreds of millions of years. Pretty sci-fi scenariosWith the word "simulation", you probably mean a man-made computer simulation, or something similar, right..?
Well, I believe that our consciousness exists on its own, and then our senses are creating some kind of biological "simulation" - meaning that whatever we experience could be faulty, depending on whether we interpret our surroundings correctly, or not. Perhaps I'm straying from the subject, but in short, I'm guessing that we are living in a "simulation" that is the result of external stimuli.
You could compare the above to a video game - the only thing that really exists is the computer code (the consciousness), which then is manifested as a digital world that the computer user can see (the world that we experience with our senses).
Wow super interesting read and take on this. Thanks for expending my take on this!This world is definitely fluid and illusory, not to say also controlled and programmed/programmable, but I take issue with the idea of a simulation because it draws too much from the understading of reality 'the simulation' itself is providing. Whatever this hell realm is, it cannot be adequately comprehended using what is now normally understood as a technological phenomenon. I highly doubt things are as simple as 'aliens or us from the future simulating reality for unknown purposes with computers and tech humans could understand'. This all reeks of materialism, and the whole appeal of the 'simulation hypothesis' actually comes from way back, from Gnosticism or Hinduism, belief systems that incorporated metaphysics into the mix, and wouldn't reduce the idea to something materialists can accept.
The basic concept behind all this questioning the realness of reality is that there must be something infinte opposing the finite, something that will never cease to be as opposed to the individual that ages and dies. When one materialistically assumes the 'realer reality' is just some place like this where other beings devised technology and will also die and be forgotten the only thing you are doing is moving the goalpost further. 'Base reality' cannot be a place where finitude or individuality exists. Though I guess there might be more illusory and less illusory realms until then.
So even if we really are simulated by someone you have to ask why do they exist and if they are in base reality. Also, the idea of simulation applies more IMO to the Matrix, like voting for Donald Trump/Joe Biden or getting a booster shot, or even things like the food chain (Nature), but our feelings and desires are very real. So the scenery might be a simulation, but not all the actors. Like Schopenhauer taught, our desires are the only thing that is real. Our desire to exist created the world itself according to him and it makes sense.
For me occultism, psychology and metaphysics are needed, along with some of the solid framework scientific materialism has undoubtedly endowed us with, to actually confront this gigantic subject of 'the world not being fully real'.
Little bit crazy ideas maybe. It was Created by us and created to see where we went wrong as maybe we destroyed ourselves with nukes or something else and a small group that survived created a simulation of the world from the start to see if they could have prevented this and probably also use time travel or by another highly advanced civilization creating many simulations to see multiple results and getting data for there own benefit. A type 3 or maybe even 4 civilization that would be able to travel everywhere and basically control the universe. Use black holes and millions of starts to harvest energy. Almost like a god like civilization. That had a head start of us in maybe hundreds of millions of years. Pretty sci-fi scenarios
If reality is a simulation, then what is it simulating?
I think this might be how a reincarnation is related to a previous life: the player discards a character when it dies, and starts a new one. The new character does not know the old one directly, but its freewill is affected by the player's experience of the previous character. Freewill is actually the player's freewill.I feel like a Sims character whose owner got bored with and discarded not long after creating
Was just talking about this with someone the other night from this site. I said when I CTB I'm gonna find out who's in charge and shut it down and unplug everyone if there's a way. I've had some creepy stuff happen to me in my life that leads me to believe there's something not right with our reality. I can't say for sure if it is but I could be. And I definitely think there's an afterlife as well but it's nothing like what we'd think."I request a rollback." (return my late partner)
It would be incredibly cruel for a simulation. I'd like to punch whomever was in charge.
Is it because the real world is even worse that they have created a simulated world for entertainment, like watching a movie? But because of many limits: cpu, screen size, rounding off errors, author's ability... The outcome is disastrous in many ways. Maybe it's also a flop in the real world.It doesn't matter
If we live in a simulation, the gods, designers don't care about us
If it's just evolution and the forces of nature giving rise to complex molecular configurations (us),
those forces don't care about us
We lose either way
So why should you care
you're gonna die and cease to exist anyway,
even
worse if we live in a simulation you might live forever as a slave
the programmers will put your consciousness in a bug the next time you respawn.
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Probably not. I think this is level 1. Surely no mind would be so stupid, or evil, as to run a program this pointlessly terrible...surely?
it wouldn't be a waste of resources if our universe was procedually generated like in No Man's Sky.pretty much this, and no civilization that advanced would waste the enormous amount of computation to run something like that.
Roko's BasiliskIs it because the real world is even worse that they have created a simulated world for entertainment, like watching a movie? But because of many limits: cpu, screen size, rounding off errors, author's ability... The outcome is disastrous in many ways. Maybe it's also a flop in the real world.
Why would the mind be stupid?Probably not. I think this is level 1. Surely no mind would be so stupid, or evil, as to run a program this pointlessly terrible...surely?