Are there.. good methods?

[kvorumese]

Hanging is incredibly scary, I'll never overcome SI.
Going under a train is even scarier and can traumatize somebody.
Jumping seems fine but at the same time it's crazy unpredictable.
Drowning sounds excruciating.
I do not have access to a gun.
N is not accessible and SN is probably hard to get (I'm in Russia, if you know of any good SN source I'd appreciate if you could share).
Highly technical methods are just very high risk.

At this point it seems like the best way for me to go is to get drafted, wait until I get a gun and blow my brains out. Is there really nothing better than this? I've been a lurker on SS for a while, I've been posting on here for a couple months, I thought I was aware of everything I had to be aware of, but I'm not.

 

[Eudaimonic]

I feel you. I wish there were more reliable and reasonably peaceful methods.

 

[Idideverythingwrong]

Months and months ago I joined this forum hoping that someone would post an innovative and accessible method. While day by day everything gets worse and I just suffer a little more.
I guess this is the point where people make decisions like hanging themselves, total despair, absolute madness.
I can't stay here anymore, no one can imagine what I am suffering.

 

[Jadeith]

N is not accessible and SN is probably hard to get (I'm in Russia

N can be replaced with helium (baloon party sets), Argon (welding supplies), propane (stinks worse than shit but it worked in the past aka putting head into the oven) or CO (different mechanism but still obtainable via old engines and stoves)
SN is easily available in Poland. Maybe finding someone from there could help?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

N can be replaced with helium (baloon party sets)

Balloon Helium contains 20% Oxygen nowadays! That won't work.

However, pure He is ok - if one can acquire it.

 

[danny10]

My number 1 method is SN. As a plan B, I have full suspension hanging. SN seems to be the way everyone chooses nowadays.

 

[kasper?]

But Sn is completely legal in Russia. And it can be bought in literally any online store. (I know, because I ordered it myself 2 weeks ago, but I haven't tested it yet).

 

[kvorumese]

But Sn is completely legal in Russia. And it can be bought in literally any online store. (I know, because I ordered it myself 2 weeks ago, but I haven't tested it yet).

Wait, actually? I've never really bothered to research that, I will do that later. Thanks!

 

[kasper?]

Wait, actually? I've never really bothered to research that, I will do that later. Thanks!

You can write to me about it if you want. I'll answer all your questions. (by online stores I meant wb / ozon, which are popular in our country. and in general Sn is sold everywhere)

 

[Intoxicated]

Drowning sounds excruciating.

But a possible vomiting from nitrite poisoning doesn't sound excruciating? ))

SN is probably hard to get (I'm in Russia, if you know of any good SN source I'd appreciate if you could share).

It's available on marketplaces. In Moscow, 100g of 98%+ NaNO2 can be purchased for 253 or 258 rubles right now and delivered by January 27. With delivery to other cities, the price and the delivery times may differ. The most difficult part is finding other substances recommended in popular SN protocols. Without those auxiliary medications, nitrite poisoning becomes worse in terms of reliability and discomfort than the reference SN methods, so even an experience of drowning may be better, assuming you don't use any sedatives for it as well.

 

[whyidon'tknow]

I don't think there is a "perfect" ctb method. They all have their own challenges. It really depends on how much, money, time, and resources you have. You can only really make the perfect ctb attempt for you. The reality is there is going to be discomfort and pain to some degree.

Sending you love and kindness

 

[FuneralCry]

To me it just feels so cruel and horrible how the option to just peacefully cease existing is denied, I wish I had Nembutal to bring me permanent relief from all the suffering, I wish there's the option to just simply cease existing and never suffer ever again. It brings me so much pain how I cannot just have the option to free myself from this existence in peace with no risks of trying to die going wrong and leading to way worse torture and agony, it's so terrifying to me how trying to die can go wrong, I see so much cruelty in how we exist in this reality where suffering is seen as to force and prolong no matter what with no acceptance towards the personal choice to cease existing even know this existence was imposed. But anyway I wish you the best, I hope you find peace.

 

[Intoxicated]

The reality is there is going to be discomfort and pain to some degree.

There are discomfort-free methods. For example, gas asphyxiation (with noble gases, nitrogen, nitrous oxide, HFCs, etc) and carbon monoxide poisoning with high concentrations of CO produced using some of the lab methods (e.g., sodium formate + orthophosphoric acid). Drowning with prior gas asphyxiation (which renders unconsciousness) belongs to the category of potentially discomfort-free methods.

 

[goredpet]

i feel like every method is a give and take. nothing available is going to be perfect unfortunately

 

[whyidon'tknow]

There are discomfort-free methods. For example, gas asphyxiation (with noble gases, nitrogen, nitrous oxide, HFCs, etc) and carbon monoxide poisoning with high concentrations of CO produced using some of the lab methods (e.g., sodium formate + orthophosphoric acid). Drowning with prior gas asphyxiation (which renders unconsciousness) belongs to the category of potentially discomfort-free methods.

Yes that's true. I meant more in the sense of a psychological/emotional pain

Maybe I'm off base and some people are able to ctb without any of that kind of pain but it seems uncommon imo

 

[Monique696]

Isn't the charcoal method also pain free ? It involves quite a bit of planning but as far as comfort goes its quite alright. I am thinking of doing it in my bathroom but it's difficult. It takes a long time as far as I've seen best overnight.
What are your thoughts on it ? Any advice?

 

[Richard Langford]

Morphine, Amitriptyline and Propranolol - Metoclopramide could added as well

 

[Baisley]

Morphine, Amitriptyline and Propranolol - Metoclopramide could added as well

I think this stuff can be hard to obtain though.

 

[Richard Langford]

I think this stuff can be hard to obtain though.

You could say that.

 

[purelydaft]

Isn't the charcoal method also pain free ? It involves quite a bit of planning but as far as comfort goes its quite alright. I am thinking of doing it in my bathroom but it's difficult. It takes a long time as far as I've seen best overnight.
What are your thoughts on it ? Any advice?

Depends on the concentration in the air. I've seen a few reports of headaches and nausea.

Carbon monoxide poisoning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ctb_warrior]

Isn't the charcoal method also pain free ? It involves quite a bit of planning but as far as comfort goes its quite alright. I am thinking of doing it in my bathroom but it's difficult. It takes a long time as far as I've seen best overnight.
What are your thoughts on it ? Any advice?

Lately, i have been thinking of charcoal method as well .
The only catch is, how much charcoal is enough for a bathroom and the CO meter for 10000ppm is quite costly..

 

[atre]

Isn't the charcoal method also pain free ? It involves quite a bit of planning but as far as comfort goes its quite alright. I am thinking of doing it in my bathroom but it's difficult. It takes a long time as far as I've seen best overnight.
What are your thoughts on it ? Any advice?

1. If the concentration is low, it becomes relatively more painful (by painful I mean having a bad headache and throwing up/nausea before losing consciousness).
2. The only advice I can give is having a CO measurer of high quality. It is assuring to make sure that the gas is actually forming and not leaking out the room. And you can check if your room is tiny enough to have higher concentrations. The higher the concentration the quicker you can fall unconscious, and the less likely to have nausea. The usually suggested CO amount is 10.000 PPM, but I've heard it is very difficult to reach that amount by coals. If I were to go by that method, I would at least make sure it is not a tiny concentration like 1-2000ppm.
3. I'm not sure but if you cannot reach high enough concentrations, it may be helpful to have sleep medications to fall asleep before the unpleasant symptoms arise. Feel free to correct me anyone, if I'm wrong about medication use in charcoal method.

 

[Secrets1]

Partial suspension hanging

Not scary, can back out, can trial & error to find the sweet spot where you simply get dizzy and pass out in 10-15 seconds. I almost ctb accidentally playing around with that. It's fast, painless. Less daunting than taking N from my experience.

 

[BreakBone2BreakBond]

Join the War, cut the sleeves off your khakis, rock a head band and Leeroy Jenkins that shit.

 

[parasite_eve]

It is a little technical but actually seems straightforward if you get right tank + adapter + scba from research like:

GasMonkey Setup [Nitrogen SCBA]

🐵 GasMonkey Setup 🐵 [Nitrogen SCBA] Positive Pressure Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus **images have been edited to ensure anonymity** Front view Side view Back view Pressure gauge Lung Demand Valve and Mask Bluetooth pulse oximeter Cylinder attachment Cylinder's connection...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Infographic explainer:

https://i.ibb.co/T4L9TgZ/scba.jpg

 

[Intoxicated]

Yes that's true. I meant more in the sense of a psychological/emotional pain

N2O can reduce emotional pain. According to this research, it can help even when treatment with conventional antidepressants has no desirable effect. As I tested N2O on myself, I can confirm that inhalation of laughing gas can significantly improve the mood for hours. Its effect is somewhat similar to alcohol, except that it lets you feel good being sober and able to concentrate on something. Unfortunately, its side effects (vitamin B12 deficiency and hypoxia-induced damage) don't allow frequent application.

Although nitrous oxide can reduce anxiety, this effect is not achieved immediately. When you inhale it for the first time, its effects may seem scary and provoke the sense of fear. Euphoria is achieved only after 1 - 2 minutes (or sometimes longer).

When air in the lungs is almost completely displaced by N2O, drifting into unconsciousness happens without any physical discomfort. Although I heard ringing in the ears, it wasn't disturbing. When you're very close to complete fainting, it feels like the whole body is under the effect of an anesthetic like lidocaine.

 

[yukiovos]

Partial suspension hanging

Not scary, can back out, can trial & error to find the sweet spot where you simply get dizzy and pass out in 10-15 seconds. I almost ctb accidentally playing around with that. It's fast, painless. Less daunting than taking N from my experience.

when u say u accidentally almost ctb with partial what does that mean? i passed out from partial hanging and survived i want to know what u felt if u did pass out.

 

[NegevChina]

All methods have there advantages and disadvantages, risk of failure. No method is perfect, sometimes I think dying is harder than living.
The most peaceful ones and reliable ones are SN and Inert gas. But SN is hard to obtain and Inert gas requires preparations and obtaining much more items. Jumping is simple but unpredictable, Train is almost impossible to overcome SI, drowning is horrible suffering, Gun hard to obtain in most places. There is a list of most methods, statistics including there ranking in reliability and suffering time, for some reason it does not include SN and Inert gas:
https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods/

 

[kvorumese]

All methods have there advantages and disadvantages, risk of failure. No method is perfect, sometimes I think dying is harder than living.
The most peaceful ones and reliable ones are SN and Inert gas. But SN is hard to obtain and Inert gas requires preparations and obtaining much more items. Jumping is simple but unpredictable, Train is almost impossible to overcome SI, drowning is horrible suffering, Gun hard to obtain in most places. There is a list of most methods, statistics including there ranking in reliability and suffering time, for some reason it does not include SN and Inert gas:
https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods/

I've read through that page many times, and honestly it just makes the situation even more gloomy lol. Apparently SN is hilariously easy to obtain in my country so it seems like I'll be considering going with that...

 

[kasper?]

Hanging is incredibly scary, I'll never overcome SI.
Going under a train is even scarier and can traumatize somebody.
Jumping seems fine but at the same time it's crazy unpredictable.
Drowning sounds excruciating.
I do not have access to a gun.
N is not accessible and SN is probably hard to get (I'm in Russia, if you know of any good SN source I'd appreciate if you could share).
Highly technical methods are just very high risk.

At this point it seems like the best way for me to go is to get drafted, wait until I get a gun and blow my brains out. Is there really nothing better than this? I've been a lurker on SS for a while, I've been posting on here for a couple months, I thought I was aware of everything I had to be aware of, but I'm not.

For some reason I can't reply in a private message, but to make a long story short, the answer to the question from there is positive