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noname223
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- Aug 18, 2020
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I would say yes. But there are also a lot of soldiers who are monsters.
But it is too easy to say that one army is the good one. And one army the bad ones.
Though, I would say I have high respect for the vast majority of Ukrainian soldiers. Especially, the ones who volunteer and don't belong to the azow batailion.
I recenty wached a discussion on Switzerland TV. (as video on Youtube)
Two participants were hawks against Russia, and experts in their field. There was also a younger participant an influencer who tries to be an intellectual. And he got cooked in the debate.
One could say the conditions the TV producers determined also determined the outcome of the debate. This young influencer was stunned at one moment and was speechless because he didn't have an argument.
Tbf I am more on the side of the Russia hawks. But I think the producers of the show did not want a fair debate. I heard real intellectuals with similar talking points but who could argue way better. The influencer is very popular though on the left and among younger people. I never heard of him but a friend did.
Some talking points were: the German system/democracy isn't worth dying for, living under occupation isn't that bad especially compared to dying (a Russia hawk asked about the frequent rapings under Russian occupation), he more or less portrayed Selensky as war-mongerer (which is popular on the internet but I think that's extremely distorted and even Orwellian)
I would not want to fight in a war. I had psychosis it is close to impossible that they will force me. Friends of me debate leaving the country for various reasons. But I don't like how disrespectful many young Germans talk about the German democracy. They take things for granted. They should spend 4 weeks in Russia or Ukraine to learn what unfreedom, oppression and war really means. There are stories of peoplw who left Germany and moved to Russia. And well these people were disillusioned pretty quickly...
But it is too easy to say that one army is the good one. And one army the bad ones.
Though, I would say I have high respect for the vast majority of Ukrainian soldiers. Especially, the ones who volunteer and don't belong to the azow batailion.
I recenty wached a discussion on Switzerland TV. (as video on Youtube)
Two participants were hawks against Russia, and experts in their field. There was also a younger participant an influencer who tries to be an intellectual. And he got cooked in the debate.
One could say the conditions the TV producers determined also determined the outcome of the debate. This young influencer was stunned at one moment and was speechless because he didn't have an argument.
Tbf I am more on the side of the Russia hawks. But I think the producers of the show did not want a fair debate. I heard real intellectuals with similar talking points but who could argue way better. The influencer is very popular though on the left and among younger people. I never heard of him but a friend did.
Some talking points were: the German system/democracy isn't worth dying for, living under occupation isn't that bad especially compared to dying (a Russia hawk asked about the frequent rapings under Russian occupation), he more or less portrayed Selensky as war-mongerer (which is popular on the internet but I think that's extremely distorted and even Orwellian)
I would not want to fight in a war. I had psychosis it is close to impossible that they will force me. Friends of me debate leaving the country for various reasons. But I don't like how disrespectful many young Germans talk about the German democracy. They take things for granted. They should spend 4 weeks in Russia or Ukraine to learn what unfreedom, oppression and war really means. There are stories of peoplw who left Germany and moved to Russia. And well these people were disillusioned pretty quickly...