Discussion Anyone saw this interview regarding this website?

[Jean4]

Hate to tell them. This site is keeping some of us alive. This site is the only reason I did not CTB on Saturday.

Pro lifers. You don't want me to die? Leave the site alone. You take away this site Pro Lifers. Know that YOU are the reason I am dead.

Hope that helps Pro Lifers. Have a wonderful day.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

Found this recently

 

[Livingvsdying25]

Wow.. I have words but I dunno what to say...

 

[Broken Chimera]

I know they tried to get her "help", but that help rarely does anything for people who are suicidal. One of her problems was work and the only way she saw to escape was to end it. I see a lot of blaming going on with the mother, but after being here for a few months I can say that no one I came across has ever encouraged suicide. In fact most of us encourage others to try to get help.

But after all of the things the parents did, Shawn still chose suicide. I'm wondering if she never came here and she jumped off of a building/bridge, shot herself or jumped in front of a train, would her mom still be playing the blame game? She doesn't understand that no one forced her daughter to do anything. She got the stuff herself and she chose to end her life because she couldn't take it anymore.

Another thing that bothered me. They lived in the same house, wtf are you doing texting her instead of actually checking in on her? The communication in the family was probably minimal at best. She probably felt like she couldn't be heard and probably contributed to her decision. And another thing, where was her father in all of this? You think that might have had something to do with her suffering? And during that interview, I heard a lot about the families pain, but did they ever once mention Shawn's pain, what drove her to that in the first place? And who's "preying" on who here? A lot of us here are hurt about members who decided to ctb.

What I'm getting at is she's blaming a website for what happened when there were many things that were going on long before she came here. Mental illness doesn't happen overnight. I hope the family can heal but going on a smear campaign on the only safe space people who are suffering have left isn't gonna fix anything. Sorry if this came out wrong but I had to give my 2 cents.

 

[TheDevilsAngel]

They are wrong about this site... Its helps people imo we all found this site because we don't want to be here.... People just don't understand

 

[Tempeste]

Several times in just the few days I've been a member, I've watch people here offer complete compassion no matter what path a poster took. New members clearly distraught and in shock were given a shoulder and told to please be gentle with themselves, take some time and sort out their feelings before rushing into a permanent decision.

You will never find this from a hotline or an emergency room or a psych ward. It's all about forcing the person the exist, circumstances be damned.

Here I've seen alternatives offered. Options for dealing with what's really wrong. There's even a recovery section where they can openly talk and share without reprisals or loss of liberty.

This site is amazing and so are it's members.

 

[a.h]

I know they tried to get her "help", but that help rarely does anything for people who are suicidal. One of her problems was work and the only way she saw to escape was to end it. I see a lot of blaming going on with the mother, but after being here for a few months I can say that no one I came across has ever encouraged suicide. In fact most of us encourage others to try to get help.

But after all of the things the parents did, Shawn still chose suicide. I'm wondering if she never came here and she jumped off of a building/bridge, shot herself or jumped in front of a train, would her mom still be playing the blame game? She doesn't understand that no one forced her daughter to do anything. She got the stuff herself and she chose to end her life because she couldn't take it anymore.

Another thing that bothered me. They lived in the same house, wtf are you doing texting her instead of actually checking in on her? The communication in the family was probably minimal at best. She probably felt like she couldn't be heard and probably contributed to her decision. And another thing, where was her father in all of this? You think that might have had something to do with her suffering? And during that interview, I heard a lot about the families pain, but did they ever once mention Shawn's pain, what drove her to that in the first place? And who's "preying" on who here? A lot of us here are hurt about members who decided to ctb.

What I'm getting at is she's blaming a website for what happened when there were many things that were going on long before she came here. Mental illness doesn't happen overnight. I hope the family can heal but going on a smear campaign on the only safe space people who are suffering have left isn't gonna fix anything. Sorry if this came out wrong but I had to give my 2 cents.

Shawn had to move out of her mom's house (she didn't want to live there or was told to move out) and work, also when living there, even she was burned out and depressed. She said her reason for ending life and it was work. In other country she could have lived in apartment and have money for food etc. without working until she felt better.

I think that news should tell what she said as her reason since they had her texts shown for long time in here and not lies of her relatives but I guess they just wanted readers by writing something offensive even they know it's not true. They think they can write any lies if they add "her mother says" etc.
Her stepfather telling that mods here are surely involved in suicide drug sale here to profit etc. is a big crime where I live and most, if not all, countries. Police checked the site and found nothing illegal here which they know also but kept telling horrible lies they made up in public media, in television interview etc.

Shawn, her mother and other relative were equally part of this "community" as anybody else. They all wrote several messages here sharing their own thoughts just like others have done.

Someone posted earlier Shawn's mother's thoughts in her Facebook page. She tells that people who talk about their issues and consider suicide and don't do it are cowards. Did she get mad and told Shatto too that she was coward when she talked about her depression and wishes to end the pain but didn't kill herself in those last years of her life? ;(

"they are mad because you are making change. You have brought awareness to their private world. A world in which they could talk the talk, but were too afraid to walk the walk. Unfortunately, for Shawn, she wasn't like these cowards. When she spoke, she meant it. I wish she had more than 8 posts in there, but she wasn't there to watch like the rest of them are "

I feel bad for whatever it was that Shatto had to deal in her last years but I am sure she is in better place now. She didn't blame or bully anyone and I am sure she wouldn't have wanted her memory end up tarnished in media.

 

[Jean4]

Shawn had to move out of her mom's house (she didn't want to live there or was told to move out) and work, also when living there, even she was burned out and depressed. She said her reason for ending life and it was work. In other country she could have lived in apartment and have money for food etc. without working until she felt better.

I think that news should tell what she said as her reason since they had her texts shown for long time in here and not lies of her relatives but I guess they just wanted readers by writing something offensive even they know it's not true. They think they can write any lies if they add "her mother says" etc.
Her stepfather telling that mods here are surely involved in suicide drug sale here to profit etc. is a big crime where I live and most, if not all, countries. Police checked the site and found nothing illegal here which they know also but kept telling horrible lies they made up in public media, in television interview etc.

Shawn, her mother and other relative were equally part of this "community" as anybody else. They all wrote several messages here sharing their own thoughts just like others have done.

Someone posted earlier Shawn's mother's thoughts in her Facebook page. She tells that people who talk about their issues and consider suicide and don't do it are cowards. Did she get mad and told Shatto too that she was coward when she talked about her depression and wishes to end the pain but didn't kill herself in those last years of her life? ;(

"they are mad because you are making change. You have brought awareness to their private world. A world in which they could talk the talk, but were too afraid to walk the walk. Unfortunately, for Shawn, she wasn't like these cowards. When she spoke, she meant it. I wish she had more than 8 posts in there, but she wasn't there to watch like the rest of them are "

I feel bad for whatever it was that Shatto had to deal in her last years but I am sure she is in better place now.She didn't blame or bully anyone and I am sure she wouldn't have wanted her memory end up tarnished in media.

I was shown the mother's bullying posts on Facebook, and have been told about the step father contacting members.

I find Facebook wars extremely childish. Which is why I really don't use Facebook personally.

I am glad the mother has the time to bully, suicidal people with mental illnesses. She is exhibiting the very same behavior which brought some of the members here.

I was honestly, totally unaware of this story until the attacks.

I didn't know Shawn personally. I am sure she was a beautiful person... like everyone here, who was dealt a bad hand in life.

If this in indeed true 'Shawn had to move out of her mom's house (she didn't want to live there or was told to move out) and work, also when living there, even she was burned out and depressed' I do understand how she was feeling.

Shawn had to move out of her home. While I don't know the mother, I have seen the bullying behavior of suicidal, mentally ill people on her Facebook page.

I agree with what was said. Shawn was like so many people here. As it was stated 'She didn't blame or bully anyone and I am sure she wouldn't have wanted her memory end up tarnished in media.'

Again. She was like so many here. I believe she didn't blame or bully people. I also agree she didn't want to be the center of attention and have all this media coverage. The same as so many members here who do not want to leave a goodbye thread and just wants to fade into oblivion.

No. I didn't know Shawn. I also never would have known her had it not been with all the craziness surrounding this case.

Shawn was our family member. I will honor and respect her for this, despite not knowing her. I am sure she was special and wonderful like everyone here.

I am glad Shawn is out of her pain. The pain everyone here understands, and only if you are in that kind of pain could you possibly understand her pain.

I am glad she is finally out of her pain. I don't know her wishes. I don't know if she wanted to fade into oblivion. I don't know if she wanted to be remembered fondly.

As all the readers here are aware. Everyone wants to be remembered differently.

One thing is for sure. I highly doubt she would want to be the center of attention and her death is causing so much media attention. Think about it. Would any of us here, even if we wanted to be remembered in this way and have others being attacked because she chose, as an adult, to end her life. A life she was never asked to happen.

I pray she is at peace. A peace she obviously didn't have in this one (Which again. We can all relate to.)

Even though I didn't know you Shawn. I am sorry your life brought you to this. I am glad you are out of pain. I wish your death wasn't being exploited for the wrong reasons.

I hear the horror stories that the people here have had with the mental health system. Wouldn't it be great to take all that energy and help fix the mental health system?

Or better yet. How about doing a story how the mental health system deals with suicidal people and what can be done to fix it.

But I guess a hard hitting story about something important doesn't sell. Attacking a forum does.

 

[a.h]

I was shown the mother's bullying posts on Facebook, and have been told about the step father contacting members.

I find Facebook wars extremely childish. Which is why I really don't use Facebook personally.

I am glad the mother has the time to bully, suicidal people with mental illnesses. She is exhibiting the very same behavior which brought some of the members here.

I was honestly, totally unaware of this story until the attacks.

I didn't know Shawn personally. I am sure she was a beautiful person... like everyone here, who was dealt a bad hand in life.

If this in indeed true 'Shawn had to move out of her mom's house (she didn't want to live there or was told to move out) and work, also when living there, even she was burned out and depressed' I do understand how she was feeling.

Shawn had to move out of her home. While I don't know the mother, I have seen the bullying behavior of suicidal, mentally ill people on her Facebook page.

I agree with what was said. Shawn was like so many people here. As it was stated 'She didn't blame or bully anyone and I am sure she wouldn't have wanted her memory end up tarnished in media.'

Again. She was like so many here. I believe she didn't blame or bully people. I also agree she didn't want to be the center of attention and have all this media coverage. The same as so many members here who do not want to leave a goodbye thread and just wants to fade into oblivion.

No. I didn't know Shawn. I also never would have known her had it not been with all the craziness surrounding this case.

Shawn was our family member. I will honor and respect her for this, despite not knowing her. I am sure she was special and wonderful like everyone here.

I am glad Shawn is out of her pain. The pain everyone here understands, and only if you are in that kind of pain could you possibly understand her pain.

I am glad she is finally out of her pain. I don't know her wishes. I don't know if she wanted to fade into oblivion. I don't know if she wanted to be remembered fondly.

As all the readers here are aware. Everyone wants to be remembered differently.

One thing is for sure. I highly doubt she would want to be the center of attention and her death is causing so much media attention. Think about it. Would any of us here, even if we wanted to be remembered in this way and have others being attacked because she chose, as an adult, to end her life. A life she was never asked to happen.

I pray she is at peace. A peace she obviously didn't have in this one (Which again. We can all relate to.)

Even though I didn't know you Shawn. I am sorry your life brought you to this. I am glad you are out of pain. I wish your death wasn't being exploited for the wrong reasons.

I hear the horror stories that the people here have had with the mental health system. Wouldn't it be great to take all that energy and help fix the mental health system?

Or better yet. How about doing a story how the mental health system deals with suicidal people and what can be done to fix it.

But I guess a hard hitting story about something important doesn't sell. Attacking a forum does.

One person was Shawns mother who have told in interviews of Shawn moving out. She said that Shawn was doing great, moving out, working and how she had studied in University too. Shawn said she have had depression for years, had to drop out from school because of that and had to work. The fact that she said she was so tired of working she chose to end her life is just sad. How can she have energy to work if she don't have energy to study.

The truth is that many do suicide every year because of money problems. If they have serious health problems too even more so.
If governments want to lessen suicides then economic safety net will do that for sure. Enough for them to get small flat, food and necessities for living until they are healthy enough to work. Most people who get ill while working full time over a year have that. But people get also ill while studying or when starting a new job or have very bad work contracts.
It is legally not parents responsibility to support their adult children and some may feel that they can't ask help too for any reason.

I honestly think that nobody can't be blamed for suicide if the case was not due to bullying or destroying someones life otherwise to the point of suicide.
But as long as Shawn's family keep accusing others for heinous crimes they will get same kind of feedback to themselves. They can't blame strangers for not telling Shawn what they thought should be told to her. If someone would be to blame (I don't think that it's right to blame anyone) then surely it would be someone who is part of her life.

Relatives of deceased ones often blame themselves and wish they had said something. That is normal. Hate/blaming (God, oneself or others) stage is also part of the grieving process.

Shawns relatives try to forgive yourself for whatever you feel should have been said to Shawn. That is surely what Shawn would wish you to do. Nobody here have wished you bad things neither even after some of you have told terrible lies in all media of them. Maybe it would be good for you to choose life and do what your therapists recommend for your well-being. I am happy you have found the value of this community after all. One year as a member is a lot longer time than many others stay here. I hope you agree that it's time to leave the blame game about Shawn's choice. At least you have done it here which is good for everyone. :) I wish you everything good in life.

 

[Jean4]

One person was Shawns mother who have told in interviews of Shawn moving out. She said that Shawn was doing great, moving out, working and how she had studied in University too. Shawn said she have had depression for years, had to drop out from school because of that and had to work. The fact that she said she was so tired of working she chose to end her life is just sad. How can she have energy to work if she don't have energy to study.

The truth is that many do suicide every year because of money problems. If they have serious health problems too even more so.
If governments want to lessen suicides then economic safety net will do that for sure. Enough for them to get small flat, food and necessities for living until they are healthy enough to work. Most people who get ill while working full time over a year have that. But people get also ill while studying or when starting a new job or have very bad work contracts.
It is legally not parents responsibility to support their adult children and some may feel that they can't ask help too for any reason.

I honestly think that nobody can't be blamed for suicide if the case was not due to bullying or destroying someones life otherwise to the point of suicide.
But as long as Shawn's family keep accusing others for heinous crimes they will get same kind of feedback to themselves. They can't blame strangers for not telling Shawn what they thought should be told to her. If someone would be to blame (I don't think that it's right to blame anyone) then surely it would be someone who is part of her life.

Relatives of deceased ones often blame themselves and wish they had said something. That is normal. Hate/blaming (God, oneself or others) stage is also part of the grieving process.

Shawns relatives try to forgive yourself for whatever you feel should have been said to Shawn. That is surely what Shawn would wish you to do. Nobody here have wished you bad things neither even after some of you have told terrible lies in all media of them. Maybe it would be good for you to choose life and do what your therapists recommend for your well-being. I am happy you have found the value of this community after all. One year as a member is a lot longer time than many others stay here. I hope you agree that it's time to leave the blame game about Shawn's choice. At least you have done it here which is good for everyone. :) I wish you everything good in life.

Nicely stated.