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toomuchgrief

a grieving mother
Sep 15, 2019
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In my religion, we believe that how your life is this life is based on what you did in your last life. Example, last life you were an evil person, this life you paying it back your bad deeds.

My baby died in Jan 2019 when he was 1.5 years old to terminal illness. Since the death of my son, I lost the will to live. EVERY.single.day is I bawl and cry, yes, I literally cry every day for the last 11 months since my son died. I'm planing my death, I want to have the same anniversary date of death as my son, so I will CTB in Jan 2020. Same month, same date that my baby died.

I must be a very evil person in my last life, therefore this life I suffer the pain of losing my own child, and I will plunge at least 1,500 feet to my death (yes, I need to reach terminal velocity to be sure). If my life ending is like this, I can't be a good person in my last life. Perhaps this is my ending, to pay back for my bad deeds in my last life.

I just hope once I took the plunge, it will be over. I don't want to wake up in coma, bedridden and forever lost all body movements and still be alive. I hope that is not what the higher being have in store for me. God, or whatever higher being please don't play me like this. Picture what physical consequences of your body you will be in if you plunge 1,500 feet and survive.

Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Sometimes life is just so unfair you know, babies, toddlers, children who have to die, but then serial killers out there without getting caught, or bad people out there still having a good life.

There probably isn't anything on the other side, nor reincarnation, probably just like a lottery machine, chances, some win lottery some don't, some have bad life some don't, some lost a child some don't.
 
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Thereisalwaysachoice

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Nov 16, 2019
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I personally do not. I completely respect your religious views and your cultural outlook but me personally, I will not take blame for something a past me did that I do not even really know about. If I was going to do something awful the me I know would do anything to prevent myself from doing terrible things. Again I'm not taking blame for the sins of my ancestors, previous incarnations, or original sin as found in the story of adam and eve. I am responsible for what I have done to people in this life.
 
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cowbain

teach me empathy
Jul 16, 2019
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I hope you can heal from your trauma x sending love and light your way <3✨

When I was younger I use to have dreams of a prairie that had a tiny house with flowers and vegetation all throughout the land, and there would be a little girl running because she was being chased by a man. I don't know which person I am in that situation. I was raped during my childhood so I often wonder if what happened to me in this life was karma because I was an awful person (the man) in a past life. I actually had this same conversation with someone last night and it resulted in awkward silence on their end. I think it's hard for others to fathom having this mindset. For people that have it It's difficult to not blame yourself when awful shit happens, and in general, but that just goes to show how good of a person you are. I can tell you are an amazing mother.
 
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TimeToBiteTheDust

Visionary
Nov 7, 2019
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No. I'm suffering because I'm stupid and I made wrong decisions. It's not about reincarnation or luck.
 
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Deltrus

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Mar 20, 2019
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I think Karma is a toxic superstitious concept. The new paradigm is not eye for an eye, it is rehabilitation of bad into good. It is obvious we don't know how to be perfectly good, so why should we be punished? It is like getting kids to do a test on stuff that wasn't taught to them. If some god or system knew perfectly what was good, why would it not teach us? A lifetime of suffering does not teach many people, instead they grow more hateful and evil.

Of course, this is the human perspective, maybe things in the spiritual realm would have a different perspective, and they see things we cannot. Maybe suffering is good for us in the long run, purifies and develops the soul or some shit. But if that were the case, maybe we chose to have lives of suffering rather than were forced into them by Karma.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

Enlightened
May 31, 2018
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I respect that others believe in reincarnation. I can't wrap my mind around it, though, even if I envy the peace the idea brings to many. Do most living things have "bad intents" and acquire negative karma? Most of life seems to suffer tremendously. Most living things live and die brutally. Are non-humans exempt from the karma-reincarnation dynamic? If so, then I still can't account for the increasing empirical evidence that what we've for millennia assumed to be free will, that we actually have undetermined moral choices, may not be true--in at least some important circumstances. So if life circumstances make certain types of moral choices far more likely, then at least some karma is determined by something other than intent.

Just my own thoughts, but it seems to me suffering is a very likely (conscious) life outcome--even for the most successful animals. It's just tragic being an animal that regularly experiences pain beyond its ability to cope sufficiently.
 
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Dreamwithinadream

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Sep 21, 2019
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I've thought about reincarnation. I sometimes wonder if I did something horrible in a previous life. I consider myself a pretty good person but my health is terrible and I am suffering immensely. Who knows. Maybe I'll be better off if there's a next life's
 
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BlueWidow

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Oct 6, 2019
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I personally do not. I completely respect your religious views and your cultural outlook but me personally, I will not take blame for something a past me did that I do not even really know about. If I was going to do something awful the me I know would do anything to prevent myself from doing terrible things. Again I'm not taking blame for the sins of my ancestors, previous incarnations, or original sin as found in the story of adam and eve. I am responsible for what I have done to people in this life.
I agree with your comments. I've had thoughts throughout my life, such as wondering if I was being punished for something I did in some other life or some other time. It doesn't really make sense though because, if that's the case, I don't remember what it was that I did. Therefore, how can I learn anything from being punished for something that I don't remember that I did? It doesn't make any sense. I think it's more about luck or chance, I just had the miserable luck of being born in a very crappy family where everybody seems to die young, and since I'm the youngest, I've had to sit and watch everyone else suffer and die. It's just random bad luck, I guess. I wish I could attach some meaning to it, but I don't think there is any meaning. It's just bad luck. :meh:

I had a friend who used to claim that people chose the things that happened to them in this life before they got here. Why the hell would anyone in their right mind choose any of the stuff that has happened to any of the people on this board?! I think that's completely ridiculous! Supposedly, the harder your life is, the greater your reward or the higher your rank when you become a "Celestial Being". Whatever. :meh:
 
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Reyki6667

Student
Oct 11, 2019
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No.
Where can you get any sort of repentance/redemption or punishment of something you are not even aware off? Totally illogical and fruitless.
add to that the death of some child's on the womb or after the delivery or any sort of lethal illness resulting of the death of a less than 5 year old child.
it clearly doesn't add up.
 
I’vehadenough

I’vehadenough

Elementalist
Sep 15, 2018
847
No, otherwise I would've been Adolf Hitler for all the torture I have encountered. Everything is random chance and coincidence. Statistics has proved this
 
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Hel

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Mar 30, 2019
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Not exactly but sometimes I think that I already killed myself and this is my hell. I'm agnostic but I believe that, if Hell existed, it wouldn't be a place of fire and full of demons, but an illusion of a life, the worst life that the person could live. And this could be mine. That would explain why I feel so trapped and I can't kill myself (Not brave enough / no perfect pethod for me). Maybe I already did it and this is my punishment, because the things which I'm living could only be explained with that.
 
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JimFord99

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Aug 18, 2019
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No. I'm suffering because I'm stupid and I made wrong decisions. It's not about reincarnation or luck.
Me too, TimeToBiteTheDust, me too. Now payback time approaches fast. Once it is over for me I worry about afterlife, if there is one.
No, otherwise I would've been Adolf Hitler for all the torture I have encountered. Everything is random chance and coincidence. Statistics has proved this
The torture you encountered is not something bad you have done, it is something bad done to you :hug:
 
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heheb27595

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Nov 20, 2019
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Religions are all deceit, political all deceit.

It's just pure luck (or bad luck). Odds are against us.
Even if next life is better, anything bad can happen, no such thing as guarantee good life.
 
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I’vehadenough

Elementalist
Sep 15, 2018
847
Reincarnation is just a scam devised by the rich to keep people from rebelling against them it's a way for the rich to keep power. If you look at it from a religious view point, people who have done something wrong in a past life are poor now, so people justify that as an excuse to treat them like shit and they are not allowed to get ahead.
 
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Shamana

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May 31, 2019
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In my religion, we believe that how your life is this life is based on what you did in your last life. Example, last life you were an evil person, this life you paying it back your bad deeds.

My baby died in Jan 2019 when he was 1.5 years old to terminal illness. Since the death of my son, I lost the will to live. EVERY.single.day is I bawl and cry, yes, I literally cry every day for the last 11 months since my son died. I'm planing my death, I want to have the same anniversary date of death as my son, so I will CTB in Jan 2020. Same month, same date that my baby died.

I must be a very evil person in my last life, therefore this life I suffer the pain of losing my own child, and I will plunge at least 1,500 feet to my death (yes, I need to reach terminal velocity to be sure). If my life ending is like this, I can't be a good person in my last life. Perhaps this is my ending, to pay back for my bad deeds in my last life.

I just hope once I took the plunge, it will be over. I don't want to wake up in coma, bedridden and forever lost all body movements and still be alive. I hope that is not what the higher being have in store for me. God, or whatever higher being please don't play me like this. Picture what physical consequences of your body you will be in if you plunge 1,500 feet and survive.

Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Sometimes life is just so unfair you know, babies, toddlers, children who have to die, but then serial killers out there without getting caught, or bad people out there still having a good life.

There probably isn't anything on the other side, nor reincarnation, probably just like a lottery machine, chances, some win lottery some don't, some have bad life some don't, some lost a child some don't.

What is your religion? Hindu? Buddhist?
 
heheb27595

heheb27595

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Nov 20, 2019
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Exactly, to keep the rich rich and poor poor. Like a pyramid.
This world is a big scam and am in the bottom, no way to get higher.
 
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Shamana

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May 31, 2019
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Karma mainly is just your intentions, thoughts, words and actions.
 
I’vehadenough

I’vehadenough

Elementalist
Sep 15, 2018
847
Napoleon said that religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich
 
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Shamana

Warlock
May 31, 2019
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Karma is not perfect.

Karma is not about perfection or imperfections. Its literally about our intentions, thoughts, words and actions and the results of these.
 
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heheb27595

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You can get hit by a thunder and whatever your intention or past actions, would not matter. Or get cancer.
 
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Shamana

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May 31, 2019
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You can get hit by a thunder and whatever your intention or past actions, would not matter. Or get cancer.

Karma is not about everything. Its about our actions and its consequences. The reasons for shitty weather is most likely not about you.
 
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pole

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Sep 18, 2018
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In my religion, we believe that how your life is this life is based on what you did in your last life. Example, last life you were an evil person, this life you paying it back your bad deeds.

My baby died in Jan 2019 when he was 1.5 years old to terminal illness. Since the death of my son, I lost the will to live. EVERY.single.day is I bawl and cry, yes, I literally cry every day for the last 11 months since my son died. I'm planing my death, I want to have the same anniversary date of death as my son, so I will CTB in Jan 2020. Same month, same date that my baby died.

I must be a very evil person in my last life, therefore this life I suffer the pain of losing my own child, and I will plunge at least 1,500 feet to my death (yes, I need to reach terminal velocity to be sure). If my life ending is like this, I can't be a good person in my last life. Perhaps this is my ending, to pay back for my bad deeds in my last life.

I just hope once I took the plunge, it will be over. I don't want to wake up in coma, bedridden and forever lost all body movements and still be alive. I hope that is not what the higher being have in store for me. God, or whatever higher being please don't play me like this. Picture what physical consequences of your body you will be in if you plunge 1,500 feet and survive.

Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Sometimes life is just so unfair you know, babies, toddlers, children who have to die, but then serial killers out there without getting caught, or bad people out there still having a good life.

There probably isn't anything on the other side, nor reincarnation, probably just like a lottery machine, chances, some win lottery some don't, some have bad life some don't, some lost a child some don't.
really sorry to hear that you've lost you're child. that's extremely heartbreaking, so sorry :(

i often times feel like im being punished in this life for the wrongdoings and actions of my past life, and just another life i lived before this. comes through in certain feelings and dreams at times, like a puzzle. i guess everyone has a different take on the subject, depending on how superstitious they are.
 
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Shamana

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May 31, 2019
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In my religion, we believe that how your life is this life is based on what you did in your last life. Example, last life you were an evil person, this life you paying it back your bad deeds.

My baby died in Jan 2019 when he was 1.5 years old to terminal illness. Since the death of my son, I lost the will to live. EVERY.single.day is I bawl and cry, yes, I literally cry every day for the last 11 months since my son died. I'm planing my death, I want to have the same anniversary date of death as my son, so I will CTB in Jan 2020. Same month, same date that my baby died.

I must be a very evil person in my last life, therefore this life I suffer the pain of losing my own child, and I will plunge at least 1,500 feet to my death (yes, I need to reach terminal velocity to be sure). If my life ending is like this, I can't be a good person in my last life. Perhaps this is my ending, to pay back for my bad deeds in my last life.

I just hope once I took the plunge, it will be over. I don't want to wake up in coma, bedridden and forever lost all body movements and still be alive. I hope that is not what the higher being have in store for me. God, or whatever higher being please don't play me like this. Picture what physical consequences of your body you will be in if you plunge 1,500 feet and survive.

Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Sometimes life is just so unfair you know, babies, toddlers, children who have to die, but then serial killers out there without getting caught, or bad people out there still having a good life.

There probably isn't anything on the other side, nor reincarnation, probably just like a lottery machine, chances, some win lottery some don't, some have bad life some don't, some lost a child some don't.

I remember a story about the buddha where a couple of grieving parents came to the buddha to ask him to bring their child back to life. He said, he could do it if they could find family in their village who had not lost a loved one and they were unable to do that. Suffering is a harsh inescaple fact of life and experincing loss does not make a bad person.
 
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Misanthrope

Mage
Oct 23, 2018
557
No. No evidence of it. All I see is indifferent causality at work. Alongside interesting neurochemical models of near-death experiences that go towards explaining what may well be happening. I have no faith in anything beyond the material and fully expect to become thoughtless ash. The benefits of indifferent causality to me is that nothing is consciously trying to teach me a lesson through heartbreak and life's tortures.

I wish I had some comfort to give. All I can say is you are not evil for random circumstances occurring. Illness exists and no amount of faith or will can change that playing out. So ultimately you are not responsible. You likely did your best within these difficult circumstances. You loved your child, you did that for them despite sickness. That is more than many get. That to me is the opposite of evil. So if this is all some sort of lesson, seems like a lesson maybe learned.
 
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Nov 20, 2019
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No. No evidence of it. All I see is indifferent causality at work. Alongside interesting neurochemical models of near-death experiences that go towards explaining what may well be happening. I have no faith in anything beyond the material and fully expect to become thoughtless ash. The benefits of indifferent causality to me is that nothing is consciously trying to teach me a lesson through heartbreak and life's tortures.

I wish I had some comfort to give. All I can say is you are not evil for random circumstances occurring. Illness exists and no amount of faith or will can change that playing out. So ultimately you are not responsible. You likely did your best within these difficult circumstances. You loved your child, you did that for them despite sickness. That is more than many get. That to me is the opposite of evil. So if this is all some sort of lesson, seems like a lesson maybe learned.
Near death experience, I have that everytime I sleep, It is called a dream.
 
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Sweet emotion

Enlightened
Sep 14, 2019
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In my religion, we believe that how your life is this life is based on what you did in your last life. Example, last life you were an evil person, this life you paying it back your bad deeds.

My baby died in Jan 2019 when he was 1.5 years old to terminal illness. Since the death of my son, I lost the will to live. EVERY.single.day is I bawl and cry, yes, I literally cry every day for the last 11 months since my son died. I'm planing my death, I want to have the same anniversary date of death as my son, so I will CTB in Jan 2020. Same month, same date that my baby died.

I must be a very evil person in my last life, therefore this life I suffer the pain of losing my own child, and I will plunge at least 1,500 feet to my death (yes, I need to reach terminal velocity to be sure). If my life ending is like this, I can't be a good person in my last life. Perhaps this is my ending, to pay back for my bad deeds in my last life.

I just hope once I took the plunge, it will be over. I don't want to wake up in coma, bedridden and forever lost all body movements and still be alive. I hope that is not what the higher being have in store for me. God, or whatever higher being please don't play me like this. Picture what physical consequences of your body you will be in if you plunge 1,500 feet and survive.

Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Sometimes life is just so unfair you know, babies, toddlers, children who have to die, but then serial killers out there without getting caught, or bad people out there still having a good life.

There probably isn't anything on the other side, nor reincarnation, probably just like a lottery machine, chances, some win lottery some don't, some have bad life some don't, some lost a child some don't.
Do you really believe that or is your religion forcing you to believe it?
 
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Shamana

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May 31, 2019
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In my religion, we believe that how your life is this life is based on what you did in your last life. Example, last life you were an evil person, this life you paying it back your bad deeds.

My baby died in Jan 2019 when he was 1.5 years old to terminal illness. Since the death of my son, I lost the will to live. EVERY.single.day is I bawl and cry, yes, I literally cry every day for the last 11 months since my son died. I'm planing my death, I want to have the same anniversary date of death as my son, so I will CTB in Jan 2020. Same month, same date that my baby died.

I must be a very evil person in my last life, therefore this life I suffer the pain of losing my own child, and I will plunge at least 1,500 feet to my death (yes, I need to reach terminal velocity to be sure). If my life ending is like this, I can't be a good person in my last life. Perhaps this is my ending, to pay back for my bad deeds in my last life.

I just hope once I took the plunge, it will be over. I don't want to wake up in coma, bedridden and forever lost all body movements and still be alive. I hope that is not what the higher being have in store for me. God, or whatever higher being please don't play me like this. Picture what physical consequences of your body you will be in if you plunge 1,500 feet and survive.

Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Sometimes life is just so unfair you know, babies, toddlers, children who have to die, but then serial killers out there without getting caught, or bad people out there still having a good life.

There probably isn't anything on the other side, nor reincarnation, probably just like a lottery machine, chances, some win lottery some don't, some have bad life some don't, some lost a child some don't.

Losing a child is not on you. Its on the laws of nature.
 
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