Anyone has a 'greenlight' from Swiss VAD

[eashanm]

Hello,

I'm thinking of applying to a Switzerland VAD because of my ongoing health problems and current suffering. Anyone else also applying to Pegasos, Dignitas or Lifecircle? Any companionship is welcome. Maybe we can do an Euthnasia together?

Even if you don't have the means to apply to a Swiss VAD, but have a valid case that may get accepted, message me. I'd love to talk to you more. Maybe I can pay for your VAD and we can go through it together.

Cheers,
Eashan

 

[downndone2]

I looked into it and was interested for sure. Just couldn't spend the money. Ibwas also afraid of needing the additional mental clearance too. I do have a long list ofbmedicak problems though. This would be the essential way to ho

 

[eashanm]

I looked into it and was interested for sure. Just couldn't spend the money. Ibwas also afraid of needing the additional mental clearance too. I do have a long list ofbmedicak problems though. This would be the essential way to ho

If I may ask, how old are you?

 

[downndone2]

45
And the list of health problems I have is long.. diabetes, neuropathy, heart problems to name a few.

 

[RUPA]

I exchanged emails with them, the guy named Damian. They require medical records, which I lack of because I had given up everything including any type of treatments long time ago. I've gone through severe traumatic events, life long depressive symptoms that literally disabled me, numerous undiagnosed physical symptoms seemingly medically unexplainable. Also, there is a requirement of mental evaluation, which costs extra.

 

[qwerty1969]

Damian rejected my application too.

 

[EndlessX]

Damian rejected my application too.

Damian is a cunt I have had experience with him he won't even answer your questions he is so fucking rude

 

[eashanm]

And the list of health problems I have is long.. diabetes, neuropathy, heart problems to name a few.

You can certainly be considered on the VAD

 

[downndone2]

You can certainly be considered on the VAD

Yes, I believe so. I just don't know if they'll make me go through the additional screening process with the mental health

 

[eashanm]

Yes, I believe so. I just don't know if they'll make me go through the additional screening process with the mental health

Okay, let me know if you wanna proceed ahead with a Swiss VAD sometime in the future

 

[downndone2]

Okay, let me know if you wanna proceed ahead with a Swiss VAD sometime in the future

I would certainly be interested

 

[NickiStix]

I exchanged emails with them, the guy named Damian. They require medical records, which I lack of because I had given up everything including any type of treatments long time ago. I've gone through severe traumatic events, life long depressive symptoms that literally disabled me, numerous undiagnosed physical symptoms seemingly medically unexplainable. Also, there is a requirement of mental evaluation, which costs extra.

I thought they only require three medical records?

Damian rejected my application too.

Is Damian the one who reviews the applications? I thought it was the doctors. Can I ask what medical conditions you applied with and how old you are?

Yes, I believe so. I just don't know if they'll make me go through the additional screening process with the mental health

From what it says in their website (and my messages to them), if you have any mental health conditions you need to be evaluated by one of their mental health professions for being sound of mind.

 

[qwerty1969]

I thought they only require three medical records?



Is Damian the one who reviews the applications? I thought it was the doctors. Can I ask what medical conditions you applied with and how old you are?


From what it says in their website (and my messages to them), if you have any mental health conditions you need to be evaluated by one of their mental health professions for being sound of mind.

Damian maybe a doctor as it's nothing more than a name. I am 53 years old and this Damian has deemed that my medical problems can be bettered via psychiatric treatment and that is what I should pursue. I don't agree with his conclusion.

 

[RUPA]

I thought they only require three medical records?



Is Damian the one who reviews the applications? I thought it was the doctors. Can I ask what medical conditions you applied with and how old you are?


From what it says in their website (and my messages to them), if you have any mental health conditions you need to be evaluated by one of their mental health professions for being sound of mind.

sorry, i do not understand what three medical records are?
he just told me to send medical records upon my brief description about my life stories, circumstances and life long depression

Damian maybe a doctor as it's nothing more than a name. I am 53 years old and this Damian has deemed that my medical problems can be bettered via psychiatric treatment and that is what I should pursue. I don't agree with his conclusion.

His last name is Flowers. Damian Flowers. I don't think he is a doctor. Can I ask what basis you applied for VAD at Pegasos on? I thought 50 was the magic number for getting approved for VAD. :(

just found that DF is international relations director it says, probably he is the one who deals with foreigners wanting VAD

 

[Teardrop2021]

sorry, i do not understand what three medical records are?
he just told me to send medical records upon my brief description about my life stories, circumstances and life long depression

His last name is Flowers. Damian Flowers. I don't think he is a doctor. Can I ask what basis you applied for VAD at Pegasos on? I thought 50 was the magic number for getting approved for VAD. :(

just found that DF is international relations director it says, probably he is the one who deals with foreigners wanting VAD

I thought 50 was the magic number too. I'm going to be 48 this year and I'm carefully collecting my medical records to show the things I've tried (for depression). It's the one thing giving me hope. I don't know what I'll do if I get rejected.

 

[NickiStix]

You don't have to be 50 to get into Pegasos. You have to have physical ailments that make your quality of living poor. If you have mental health issues then you need a psychiatric assessment to ensure you're of sound mind.

Under Who can apply for VAD:

FAQs – Pegasos Swiss Association

pegasos-association.com

 

[Teardrop2021]

You don't have to be 50 to get into Pegasos. You have to have physical ailments that make your quality of living poor. If you have mental health issues then you need a psychiatric assessment to ensure you're of sound mind.

Under Who can apply for VAD:

FAQs – Pegasos Swiss Association

pegasos-association.com

I know you don't have to be 50, but I thought the burden of proof was much higher for young people, and that it was easier to get approved when you were over 50. I've read articles about people over 50 being accepted for things like insomnia and arthritis and just being "tired of living." I just wish I could have the peace of mind of knowing it was an option.

 

[lemmein]

I know you don't have to be 50, but I thought the burden of proof was much higher for young people, and that it was easier to get approved when you were over 50. I've read articles about people over 50 being accepted for things like insomnia and arthritis and just being "tired of living." I just wish I could have the peace of mind of knowing it was an option.

If you're under 50 and have a chronic physical condition, you don't have to prove you've tried every treatment under the sun. In fact, Pegasos is flexible in its definition of "unbearable" suffering. The language on their website says something like (and I'm paraphrasing), "Who's a doctor to tell you what's unbearable? Only you can judge what's unbearable for you."

Now, if you're under 50 and are applying ONLY based on mental illness, you'll be rejected immediately. But here's what I'm wondering: If you have mental illness but also have a chronic physical condition, do you even have to mention the mental illness? As long as your medical records don't mention anything about it, how would they even know?

Hello,

I'm thinking of applying to a Switzerland VAD because of my ongoing health problems and current suffering. Anyone else also applying to Pegasos, Dignitas or Lifecircle? Any companionship is welcome. Maybe we can do an Euthnasia together?

Even if you don't have the means to apply to a Swiss VAD, but have a valid case that may get accepted, message me. I'd love to talk to you more. Maybe I can pay for your VAD and we can go through it together.

Cheers,
Eashan

Hi Eashan. I applied and got a provisional green light. I'm now waiting for them to give me a date for my VAD. Fingers crossed. Have you applied yet? Assuming it's not against the rules, feel free to PM me.

 

[downndone2]

I thought they only require three medical records?



Is Damian the one who reviews the applications? I thought it was the doctors. Can I ask what medical conditions you applied with and how old you are?


From what it says in their website (and my messages to them), if you have any mental health conditions you need to be evaluated by one of their mental health professions for being sound of mind.

That's what I discovered. You also have to pay more and it is longer wait. Plus, I'm sure they require you to come there for the MH clearance.
I've got a lot of physical and depression/anxiety issues listed as well

 

[eashanm]

feel free to PM me

Hello, can't PM you just yet as you've just joined the site. Comment on a few posts and then I should be able to.

 

[lemmein]

Hello, can't PM you just yet as you've just joined the site. Comment on a few posts and then I should be able to.

Oh, I see. Well, have you already applied at Pegasos?

 

[eashanm]

Hi Eashan. I applied and got a provisional green light. I'm now waiting for them to give me a date for my VAD. Fingers crossed. Have you applied yet? Assuming it's not against the rules, feel free to PM me.

No, I've not applied yet. I'm looking to go to Switzerland in the summer. Can I apply now for 4 months in advance?

What's the difference between green light and provisional green light that you have?

 

[lemmein]

No, I've not applied yet. I'm looking to go to Switzerland in the summer. Can I apply now for 4 months in advance?

What's the difference between green light and provisional green light that you have?

Not sure really of the difference (if any). I haven't yet been given a VAD date, so as far as I'm concerned, it's not a done deal. I've heard the term "provisional green light," and I figure that applies to me. I may be wrong.

Yes, you can apply for 4 months in advance. However, they're swamped with requests. The sooner you apply, the better chance you'll have of getting a VAD date of your choosing. I'm hoping to do mine right after the summer tourist season ends as I hate crowds (and prices are higher). I want my last few days on earth to be as tranquil as possible, and to say that crowds totally piss me off would be a gross understatement.

 

[Source Energy]

Hello,

I'm thinking of applying to a Switzerland VAD because of my ongoing health problems and current suffering. Anyone else also applying to Pegasos, Dignitas or Lifecircle? Any companionship is welcome. Maybe we can do an Euthnasia together?

Even if you don't have the means to apply to a Swiss VAD, but have a valid case that may get accepted, message me. I'd love to talk to you more. Maybe I can pay for your VAD and we can go through it together.

Cheers,
Eashan

From what I knew, Dignitas does not accept just anyone like that. And you have to be a resident. Idk about the other ones. Do you know which accept able bodied, undiagnosed, middle aged people? Please share the tip

 

[lemmein]

From what I knew, Dignitas does not accept just anyone like that. And you have to be a resident. Idk about the other ones. Do you know which accept able bodied, undiagnosed, middle aged people? Please share the tip

Dignitas does not require you to be a Swiss resident. There's a book called "In Love: A Memoir of Love and Loss" written by an American, Amy Bloom. In it, she chronicles the process of applying for VAD for her husband who has early dementia. They applied at Dignitas, and she describes all the details from the moment he decided he wanted to do it, to the appointment at Dignitas. I highly recommend this book.

 

[eashanm]

Okay, I've decided I'll do CTB within the next 1.5 years

 

[NambaSutra]

For the psychiatric eval what are they looking for "sound mind"? If I can solve logic puzzles or know basic facts about the world? If I'm not hallucinating? What if I've tried practically every med out there and had many years of psychotherapy also?

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

there is no telling.

For the psychiatric eval what are they looking for "sound mind"? If I can solve logic puzzles or know basic facts about the world? If I'm not hallucinating? What if I've tried practically every med out there and had many years of psychotherapy also?.

spend 100 bucks to ask a question. spend 5k to start an application. they admit to be be slow. fly out there for an eval. can still be rejected. have to fly there again for the procedure. no thank you. otherwise sounds fine. n is out there. curse these guys for keeping to themselves
they'd make some good $ off me. i'd take all their services. id me after death (i find this stupid but it adds probably 1k to my bill). assistance getting there - will they want to fly first class hotels? i have no idea. and they can still reject.

 

[bluebirds]

there is no telling.

spend 100 bucks to ask a question. spend 5k to start an application. they admit to be be slow. fly out there for an eval. can still be rejected. have to fly there again for the procedure. no thank you. otherwise sounds fine. n is out there. curse these guys for keeping to themselves
they'd make some good $ off me. i'd take all their services. id me after death (i find this stupid but it adds probably 1k to my bill). assistance getting there - will they want to fly first class hotels? i have no idea. and they can still reject.

Fly there and still be rejected ? omg ! How come? Is that what pegasos does?

This is so dangerous specially if someone sold all they have and flew there as last resort.

Reject why ? why would they even reject?

 

[doneforlife]

Fly there and still be rejected ? omg ! How come? Is that what pegasos does?

This is so dangerous specially if someone sold all they have and flew there as last resort.

Reject why ? why would they even reject?

Yeah , seems this is the process. There is no guarantee of getting greenlighted.

If you're under 50 and have a chronic physical condition, you don't have to prove you've tried every treatment under the sun. In fact, Pegasos is flexible in its definition of "unbearable" suffering. The language on their website says something like (and I'm paraphrasing), "Who's a doctor to tell you what's unbearable? Only you can judge what's unbearable for you."

Now, if you're under 50 and are applying ONLY based on mental illness, you'll be rejected immediately. But here's what I'm wondering: If you have mental illness but also have a chronic physical condition, do you even have to mention the mental illness? As long as your medical records don't mention anything about it, how would they even know?

Hi Eashan. I applied and got a provisional green light. I'm now waiting for them to give me a date for my VAD. Fingers crossed. Have you applied yet? Assuming it's not against the rules, feel free to PM me.

Is it Dignitas or Pegasos or some other association where you got a provisional green light?