Any point in testing N from D?

[Auto Immunity After]

I've heard of N from A but D I've not heard of D. Is everything I need to know in latest (March 2021) PPEH in 'resources'? Or are there more specific threads that would be of use?
Supplementary question: is D the best bet to buy N these days? I'm a bit out of the loop.
Thanks in advance.

So D is "B" in the PPeH. Seller "AV" is not responding to messages so not selling at this time. You need to email "B". use the protonmail.com address in the PPeh.

 

[donewrong]

A is responding to emails and is listed in the current version of the PPeH ...as of august, constantly changing

Hydra and Dark0de have powder ads, no lonqer Whm

My whole post was deleted although the photos of The Lonely are much more evocative ? Have fun staying partly informed

 

[Johnjohn1]

I've read that N is supposed to remain effective for a decade after expiry if stored correctly. But still concerning nevertheless.
Another thing I've noticed is the N in that link appears to be dolethal which is no longer available, perhaps explaining the expiry.

Can this be stored in the refrigerator?

 

[upthedownescalatorr]

Can this be stored in the refrigerator?

It's supposed to be stored at room temperature below 25c but as long as you're not freezing it I don't think it would make too much of a difference. I'm personally not too worried about how conditions might affect the integrity of the product. Yes misleading customers over expiry isn't a good look but N is a seller's market and it's not like you can report them to the FDA. I'd feel much safer using sealed bottles that might have expired last year than N decanted into plastic bottles as some have reported A to have done in the past. Also remember that it's produced to be used on animals in a clinical setting so the dates and guidelines are there for vets to know that they're going to get the desired effects from carefully measured doses. The LD50 for N is around 4g iirc so even if your product has degraded a bit it's highly unlikely that consuming 200ml isn't going to work.

 

[Auto Immunity After]

Taken from PPeH August 2021 version: "The Storage of Liquid Nembutal Veterinary liquid comes ins ealed, sterile glass 100m! bottles. It is best not to disturb the seal on the bottle until it is needed Do not break the seal or decant the liquid into another container as this will expose the drug to the air. Store the original bottles in a cool dark place. Refrigeration is fine, but do not freeze as the bottle can break The liquid should be clear and colourless. Any coloration or precipitation of the liquid means that further testing and assay will be required"

So cool dark place does not have to mean you have to refridgerate, you can store it anywhere dark and room temperature is fine too.

 

[Pmostek]

Can someone pm email to D please ... ppeh files are not available anymore. And I dont have much time. Kind Regards

 

[peacefulhorizons]

A is responding to emails and is listed in the current version of the PPeH ...as of august, constantly changing

Hydra and Dark0de have powder ads, no lonqer Whm

My whole post was deleted although the photos of The Lonely are much more evocative ? Have fun staying partly informed

Dark0de's listing looks like a definite scam. Haven't looked at the one on Hydra because it's down at the moment. Nothing on Dread about N sources as of late either.

 

[Moonlight]

When you order from D, you can ask him the expiration date. My bottles (ordered in april) have mid 2024 as an expiration date, so 3 years actually.

Interesting. I've ordered at the end of April and he told me an earlier expiration date.

 

[sully]

ok so lets look at both sources:

1. "D". He has been a supplier of N for years. Some members have had it tested, it was N. Some members passed away using it. Some members have first hand accounts of how potent it is and then there is the youtube videos you can watch of the final moments of people drinking N and going unconsious in approx 2 min and having a peaceful death. NOW, it appears D is not being truthful about expiry dates, providing incorrect dates or no date on the bottle at all. Below is a tweet from Dr. Philip Nitschke of Peaceful PIll on May 3, 2017

May 2, 2017

Replying to
@philipnitschke
and
@PeacefulPill
Is there an expiry date to these drugs or do they last for years if they remain unopened?

Philip Nitschke
@philipnitschke
·
May 3, 2017

Stored properly, Dolethal (and #euthanasiaNembutal in general) shelf life >20yrs -
@PeacefulPill
Ch 18 'Testing & Storage'

So for anyone who is worried that you either have no expiry date or you don's believe it's correct, we are buying poison in a bottle from a drug trafficker in Mexico. I am sure he sells old stock, new stock, expired stock. The expiry is >20 years if stored properly...... so store it properly. And if you still have it in 20 years and you want to ctb, you may need to reorder but your good for years and the bottles do contain N.

2. There is a site on the darknet I wont say their name but PPeH August 2021 have details and PPeH says the following: From March to September 2020, "X" operated in the White House Market on the dark web. Their WHM record reveals they had between 50 and 60 sales and were involved in 18 disputes (of which all werel lost). They also received 28 positive reviews with an overall customer rating of 92.8% their current market status is 'banned' After the banning 'X" sold 25gm packs of sodium pentobarbital powder from their own dark web site. The reported cost was US$760, Bitcoin or Monero/ XMRwas accepted as payment . As of Novermber 2020, "X" page stated 'product temporarily unavailable.

So everyone can draw their own conclusions if you looking for N.

did you ask him info about expiry dates? I asked but I doubt he´ll answer me

So D is "B" in the PPeH. Seller "AV" is not responding to messages so not selling at this time. You need to email "B". use the protonmail.com address in the PPeh.

he responded to me and pretty quick.

 

[HopelessFight]

Interesting. I've ordered at the end of April and he told me an earlier expiration date.

Which expiration date did he tell you? I assume you don't have the original labels anymore?

 

[sully]

Hello, everyone. I asked D yesterday about expiry date of my bottles. He responded today that it´s January 2024. O course it maybe not true. I don´t think that there is any real label underneath the fake one, it doesn´t seem so. I can´t check it because I dont want to remove a fake label in case anyone will see the bottles. So, that´s what I got.

 

[Tats31]

At this point I don't see any use in testing anymore. As long as you receive the same sealed bottles as everyone else, I wouldn't worry. For testing, you need to open the bottle, potentionally reducing shelve life. With the amount of proof we have D is legit, that sounds like a waste. Testing might remain useful if you couldn't properly store the product though.

When you order from D, you can ask him the expiration date. My bottles (ordered in april) have mid 2024 as an expiration date, so 3 years actually.

What does this cost and how much would I need

 

[GoingMyOwnWay]

What is the usual response time from D? I sent an e-mail to the ctemplar address from the March version of the PPeh that can be found in the resource section here. I sent my e-mail to his ctemplar address from my proton mail account, will that be an issue?

 

[316]

What is the usual response time from D? I sent an e-mail to the ctemplar address from the March version of the PPeh that can be found in the resource section here. I sent my e-mail to his ctemplar address from my proton mail account, will that be an issue?

As far as I know he isn't using the ctemplar address anymore. Use the protonmail one from the PPH. You will likely get a response within a couple of hours

 

[Auto Immunity After]

did you ask him info about expiry dates? I asked but I doubt he´ll answer me

he responded to me and pretty quick.

I did remove the fake label, there was not real label underneath, just the take label with no expiry date.

 

[sully]

I did remove the fake label, there was not real label underneath, just the take label with no expiry date.

he replied to me that expiry date of my bottles is janyary 2024. But its just his words

 

[Auto Immunity After]

he replied to me that expiry date of my bottles is janyary 2024. But its just his words

yes that's my point nobody can verify if the expiry dates he is emailing as accurate. So people may need to make their decision of weather to buy or not from D based on other evidence regarding the efficacy of the product.

 

[donewrong]

Dark0de's listing looks like a definite scam. Haven't looked at the one on Hydra because it's down at the moment. Nothing on Dread about N sources as of late either.

After review, I tend to agree with you, one seller has gone and the remaining one has no review. He's also idle on vacation anyway. Exit members have yet tconfirm an actual new deivery. They have been queried fr feedback before

 

[Sue]

Can someone pm me email addresses for N please

 

[Koppite]

I wouldn't normally ask for this but with the PPEH resources currently unavailable, what other options are there than to ask for the N email addresses via pm?

 

[Moonlight]

Which expiration date did he tell you? I assume you don't have the original labels anymore?

January 2024 just like @anaboleyn (when did you order?) has been told:

he replied to me that expiry date of my bottles is janyary 2024. But its just his words

Strange... Why would he mention different expiration dates? Maybe he has different batches. But why would he sell the newer ones first?

I don't know if the original labels are still on the bottle? I don't want to break the camouflage...

 

[316]

I received my N from D! I didnt even ask for an expiration date mainly because I don't intend to keep it for years, more like weeks or a few months at most. Either way there's no guarantee that the date you are told is correct

I don't know how true this is but I heard that A might be back in business. At one point he was reported to have been decanting the N into other bottles which would reduce the date anyway

Without the original bottles having the original label intact there's no way to be sure, and for obvious reasons no seller will ship with the original labels

What I really wanted was powdered N but it seems there's no supplier at the moment, at least none without pot luck on the dark web

 

[veronique]

As far as I know he isn't using the ctemplar address anymore. Use the protonmail one from the PPH. You will likely get a response within a couple of hours

Is it possible that you email me kindly B email address? The PPH files are not accessible any longer from the Wiki resources section. I got A proton email address from when I try to contact him (the files were available some days ago, may be it is my computer that is the problem?) and he is not writing back. Thank you in advance and I apologise to ask this but I do not have many time left. Thank you

 

[Death is beautiful]

ok so lets look at both sources:

1. "D". He has been a supplier of N for years. Some members have had it tested, it was N. Some members passed away using it. Some members have first hand accounts of how potent it is and then there is the youtube videos you can watch of the final moments of people drinking N and going unconsious in approx 2 min and having a peaceful death. NOW, it appears D is not being truthful about expiry dates, providing incorrect dates or no date on the bottle at all. Below is a tweet from Dr. Philip Nitschke of Peaceful PIll on May 3, 2017

May 2, 2017

Replying to
@philipnitschke
and
@PeacefulPill
Есть ли у этих препаратов срок годности или их хватит на годы, если они не открываются?

Филип Ничке
@philipnitschke
·
3 мая 2017 г.

При правильном хранении, Долетал (и # эвтаназия нембутал в целом) срок годности> 20 лет -
@PeacefulPill
Глава 18 «Тестирование и хранение»

Итак, для всех, кто обеспокоен тем, что у вас либо нет срока годности, либо вы не верите, что он правильный, мы покупаем яд в бутылке у торговца наркотиками в Мексике. Я уверен, что он продает старые акции, новые акции, просроченные акции. Срок годности> 20 лет при правильном хранении ... поэтому храните его надлежащим образом. И если он у вас все еще есть через 20 лет, и вы хотите получить ctb, вам, возможно, придется перезаказать его, но ваш товар в течение многих лет, а бутылки содержат N.

2. В даркнете есть сайт, я не буду называть их имя, но PPeH в августе 2021 года содержит подробности, а PPeH сообщает следующее: с марта по сентябрь 2020 года «X» работал на рынке Белого дома в темной сети. Их запись WHM показывает, что у них было от 50 до 60 продаж и они участвовали в 18 спорах (из которых все были проиграны). Они также получили 28 положительных отзывов с общим рейтингом клиентов 92,8%. Их текущий статус на рынке "запрещен". После запрета "X" продала 25-граммовые упаковки порошка пентобарбитала натрия на их собственном темном веб-сайте. Сообщенная стоимость составила 760 долларов США, биткойн. или Monero / XMR были приняты в качестве оплаты. По состоянию на ноябрь 2020 года на странице «X» указано, что продукт временно недоступен.

Так что каждый может сделать свои выводы, если вы ищете N.

D told me that the expiration date of the nembutal he sold was January 2024, which is 2.5 years. This is true? How long can it keep at room temperature

 

[veronique]

I received my N from D! I didnt even ask for an expiration date mainly because I don't intend to keep it for years, more like weeks or a few months at most. Either way there's no guarantee that the date you are told is correct

I don't know how true this is but I heard that A might be back in business. At one point he was reported to have been decanting the N into other bottles which would reduce the date anyway

Without the original bottles having the original label intact there's no way to be sure, and for obvious reasons no seller will ship with the original labels

What I really wanted was powdered N but it seems there's no supplier at the moment, at least none without pot luck on the dark web

i send an email to A and he did not respond. I asked someone on the forum to "PM" me B address email. if somebody can help me with his address because i do not have many time it would really really help me.

 

[The Lonely]

Hello, everyone. I asked D yesterday about expiry date of my bottles. He responded today that it´s January 2024. O course it maybe not true. I don´t think that there is any real label underneath the fake one, it doesn´t seem so. I can´t check it because I dont want to remove a fake label in case anyone will see the bottles. So, that´s what I got.

January = Enero in Spanish.
Which match with the picture I posted before in this thread and @HopelessFight mentioned as being the same Bach number… she had..

Seriously guys it is too much coincidence that all these are from the very same lot…
All expiring dates are: "Enero 2024" = "January 2024"!!

My theory is that even the sellers don't have any knowledge about expiring date, whatsoever…

This is produced in a not regulated factory….
Or
The bottles leave the lab before labeling them. (Best option).

*** Also @Frank1998 expiring date is january 2024…

This sellers just have one picture about how the label was "supposed to be" and are using as "reference"… that's my guess

If anyone has the original label bottle please share.

*** @Moonlight has a different date.

 

[Death is beautiful]

January = Enero in Spanish.
Which match with the picture I posted before in this thread and @HopelessFight mentioned as being the same Bach number… she had..

Seriously guys it is too much coincidence that all these are from the very same lot…
All expiring dates are: "Enero 2024" = "January 2024"!!

My theory is that even the sellers don't have any knowledge about expiring date, whatsoever…

This is produced in a not regulated factory….
Or
The bottles leave the lab before labeling them. (Best option).

*** Also @Frank1998 expiring date is january 2024…

This sellers just have one picture about how the label was "supposed to be" and are using as "reference"… that's my guess

If anyone has the original label bottle please share.

*** @Moonlight has a different date.

What does all this mean? You're scaring me .. What's wrong with D's reputation?

 

[Auto Immunity After]

D told me that the expiration date of the nembutal he sold was January 2024, which is 2.5 years. This is true? How long can it keep at room temperature

Nembutal has a long shelf life if not opened. The shelf life is more like 20 years than 2.5.......this is stated in the PPeH. I doubt D knows the expriy date, or the batch numbers as his recent information about these has been questionalable to say the least. As I said before, D is most likely asociated with an organized crime cartel in Mexico. His acccess to this unlimited supply of Nembutol resources would indicate this. Having said that, who else do you expect to buy this from? He has made statements about expriy dates and batch numbers which when members compared proved to be misleading. One thing has held true for any member who has drank N from D..they have had a peaceful journey when recorded or witnessed by another member. Some members have tested N. All accounts are that this is real N. So what D sells is real. The expiry is years and years......his batch numbers dont make sense , who cares? You are illegally purchasing poison in a bottle from Mexico and your worried about batch dates? really?

 

[Death is beautiful]

Nembutal has a long shelf life if not opened. The shelf life is more like 20 years than 2.5.......this is stated in the PPeH. I doubt D knows the expriy date, or the batch numbers as his recent information about these has been questionalable to say the least. As I said before, D is most likely asociated with an organized crime cartel in Mexico. His acccess to this unlimited supply of Nembutol resources would indicate this. Having said that, who else do you expect to buy this from? He has made statements about expriy dates and batch numbers which when members compared proved to be misleading. One thing has held true for any member who has drank N from D..they have had a peaceful journey when recorded or witnessed by another member. Some members have tested N. All accounts are that this is real N. So what D sells is real. The expiry is years and years......his batch numbers dont make sense , who cares? You are illegally purchasing poison in a bottle from Mexico and your worried about batch dates? really?

and so D does not know the expiration date N do I understand correctly? This means it can be stored for over 2.5 years. Honestly, I only care about the expiration date

 

[The Lonely]

Nembutal has a long shelf life if not opened. The shelf life is more like 20 years than 2.5.......this is stated in the PPeH. I doubt D knows the expriy date, or the batch numbers as his recent information about these has been questionalable to say the least. As I said before, D is most likely asociated with an organized crime cartel in Mexico. His acccess to this unlimited supply of Nembutol resources would indicate this. Having said that, who else do you expect to buy this from? He has made statements about expriy dates and batch numbers which when members compared proved to be misleading. One thing has held true for any member who has drank N from D..they have had a peaceful journey when recorded or witnessed by another member. Some members have tested N. All accounts are that this is real N. So what D sells is real. The expiry is years and years......his batch numbers dont make sense , who cares? You are illegally purchasing poison in a bottle from Mexico and your worried about batch dates? really?

This is not the pure Nembutal made by a brand name lab sold back in the 50's !!

The theory of N lasting 20 years goes downhill since we assume the product is from unknown source. Period.

Said that…

Even Nitsche mentions the need to Potentiate 'an old N' people may have stored at home (here he talks about a legit product that pretty old people may have stored for ages at their homes). Like N prescribed by a doctor which people still have.

And he mentions the need to Potentiate product from 'uncertain origin'.