Any point in testing N from D?

[anothernameless]

Testing N from D seems like an extra hoop to jump through, does testing it really matter, they are considered pretty reliable at this point, right?

Also, how long should sealed N from D last for?

 

[The Lonely]

This product is totally free from any quality guarantee…
No one guarantees anything about it…

 

[Snake of Eden]

Testing N from D seems like an extra hoop to jump through, does testing it really matter, they are considered pretty reliable at this point, right?

Also, how long should sealed N from D last for?

Yes they proven reliable too far. I think two years they would last

 

[HopelessFight]

At this point I don't see any use in testing anymore. As long as you receive the same sealed bottles as everyone else, I wouldn't worry. For testing, you need to open the bottle, potentionally reducing shelve life. With the amount of proof we have D is legit, that sounds like a waste. Testing might remain useful if you couldn't properly store the product though.

When you order from D, you can ask him the expiration date. My bottles (ordered in april) have mid 2024 as an expiration date, so 3 years actually.

 

[donewrong]

At this point I don't see any use in testing anymore. As long as you receive the same sealed bottles as everyone else, I wouldn't worry. For testing, you need to open the bottle, potentionally reducing shelve life. With the amount of proof we have D is legit, that sounds like a waste. Testing might remain useful if you couldn't properly store the product though.

When you order from D, you can ask him the expiration date. My bottles (ordered in april) have mid 2024 as an expiration date, so 3 years actually.

Did he provide you any evidence about the reality of the expiry date ?

In fact, there are Exit members who complain to have received way outdated N bottles in original packaging proving it, despite the initial sale speech of the said provider who promised expiry dates far ahead





The problem appears to be recurring when D makes the random mistake to ship without a concealing effort, which by the way, is very dangerous regarding legal risk during importation.

I mean, as long as the bottles arrive with fake or no label on the other hand, it becomes impossible to verify whether or not one has been cheated with sweet talk during the ordering process.

Overall, it's off-putting, as we don't even know under which conditions the bottles were stored during many years before shipped expired to the end client

Has anyone received a genuine packaging showing a still valid expiry date ? I was not able to gather such testimonial yet

 

[Auto Immunity After]

The PPeH states that although 2 years is the standard expiry if it is kept sealed, it can last for many years.

 

[The Lonely]

Did he provide you any evidence about the reality of the expiry date ?

In fact, there are Exit members who complain to have received way outdated N bottles in original packaging proving it, despite the initial sale speech of the said provider who promised expiry dates far ahead
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The problem appears to be recurring when D makes the random mistake to ship without a concealing effort, which by the way, is very dangerous regarding legal risk during importation.

I mean, as long as the bottles arrive with fake or no label on the other hand, it becomes impossible to verify whether or not one has been cheated with sweet talk during the ordering process.

Overall, it's off-putting, as we don't even know under which conditions the bottles were stored during many years before shipped expired to the end client

Has anyone received a genuine packaging showing a still valid expiry date ? I was not able to gather such testimonial yet

Ok…

You just got here like yesterday…. So take it easy…

This package actually is totally strange for me so far…

 

[HopelessFight]

Did he provide you any evidence about the reality of the expiry date ?

In fact, there are Exit members who complain to have received way outdated N bottles in original packaging proving it, despite the initial sale speech of the said provider who promised expiry dates far ahead
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The problem appears to be recurring when D makes the random mistake to ship without a concealing effort, which by the way, is very dangerous regarding legal risk during importation.

I mean, as long as the bottles arrive with fake or no label on the other hand, it becomes impossible to verify whether or not one has been cheated with sweet talk during the ordering process.

Overall, it's off-putting, as we don't even know under which conditions the bottles were stored during many years before shipped expired to the end client

Has anyone received a genuine packaging showing a still valid expiry date ? I was not able to gather such testimonial yet

Oh wow, I was not aware of this at all and this is really troublesome. He sent me photos of the packaging and original labels. It seems to be a different brand than the one shown in the photo above.

Are there are more of these testimonies and photos on the Exit forum?

 

[upthedownescalatorr]

I've read that N is supposed to remain effective for a decade after expiry if stored correctly. But still concerning nevertheless.
Another thing I've noticed is the N in that link appears to be dolethal which is no longer available, perhaps explaining the expiry.

 

[HopelessFight]

I have looked at my own bottles (they also still have the original label under the fake cosmetic one) and on first sight it doesn't look like it had been tampered with. I have been sent photo's of the original packacking also showing me the same expiration date as on my bottles. I didn't compare the batch number though and I don't have the photo's anymore.

It's impossible to know for sure. While it's true N is supposed to last longer than it's expiration date, you have no idea under what conditions it had been stored. So if you plan to store it long-term, it might still be worth considering a test.

I also wonder why he would make the mistake of replacing the labels with ones from other bottles while sending the original box with the old expiration date on it. That would make it seem a bit too obvious.

This extract from the screenshot above indeed seem to be from Dolethal, which he doesn't sell anymore. Looking at the number of N bottles he's selling right now, they simply cannot all come from old batches: he must be having access to new ones. I personally wouldn't worry too much about this yet.

Does someone here have access to the Exit forums and can tell us if there are more reports about this? @RainAndSadness, you have access to these forums I think?

 

[Auto Immunity After]

The 2 bottles I received ONLY has the fake label on them, there is no "real" label under the fake label, it just has one label. There is no expiry date anywhere on the bottle.

 

[sully]

The 2 bottles I received ONLY has the fake label on them, there is no "real" label under the fake label, it just has one label. There is no expiry date anywhere on the bottle.

Did you ask him to send proof?

 

[HopelessFight]

The 2 bottles I received ONLY has the fake label on them, there is no "real" label under the fake label, it just has one label. There is no expiry date anywhere on the bottle.

D removes the real label these days, which is also why I'm posting this in public now.

 

[Auto Immunity After]

So i just emailed D asking to verigy expiry and confirm he did remove the orig label.............I will let you know if I hear back from him

 

[The Lonely]

Did he provide you any evidence about the reality of the expiry date ?

In fact, there are Exit members who complain to have received way outdated N bottles in original packaging proving it, despite the initial sale speech of the said provider who promised expiry dates far ahead
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The problem appears to be recurring when D makes the random mistake to ship without a concealing effort, which by the way, is very dangerous regarding legal risk during importation.

I mean, as long as the bottles arrive with fake or no label on the other hand, it becomes impossible to verify whether or not one has been cheated with sweet talk during the ordering process.

Overall, it's off-putting, as we don't even know under which conditions the bottles were stored during many years before shipped expired to the end client

Has anyone received a genuine packaging showing a still valid expiry date ? I was not able to gather such testimonial yet

Here: This match with the Dolethal package colors and red frag Brand's design…
This version of "Nembutal" is not available for now

 

[Auto Immunity After]

Ok…

You just got here like yesterday…. So take it easy…

This package actually is totally strange for me so far…

Did he provide you any evidence about the reality of the expiry date ?

In fact, there are Exit members who complain to have received way outdated N bottles in original packaging proving it, despite the initial sale speech of the said provider who promised expiry dates far ahead
View attachment 72047


View attachment 72048

The problem appears to be recurring when D makes the random mistake to ship without a concealing effort, which by the way, is very dangerous regarding legal risk during importation.

I mean, as long as the bottles arrive with fake or no label on the other hand, it becomes impossible to verify whether or not one has been cheated with sweet talk during the ordering process.

Overall, it's off-putting, as we don't even know under which conditions the bottles were stored during many years before shipped expired to the end client

Has anyone received a genuine packaging showing a still valid expiry date ? I was not able to gather such testimonial yet

Did he provide you any evidence about the reality of the expiry date ?

In fact, there are Exit members who complain to have received way outdated N bottles in original packaging proving it, despite the initial sale speech of the said provider who promised expiry dates far ahead
View attachment 72047


View attachment 72048

The problem appears to be recurring when D makes the random mistake to ship without a concealing effort, which by the way, is very dangerous regarding legal risk during importation.

I mean, as long as the bottles arrive with fake or no label on the other hand, it becomes impossible to verify whether or not one has been cheated with sweet talk during the ordering process.

Overall, it's off-putting, as we don't even know under which conditions the bottles were stored during many years before shipped expired to the end client

Has anyone received a genuine packaging showing a still valid expiry date ? I was not able to gather such testimonial yet

You refer to D as a "sweet talking" salesman ...........We are talking about a guy who is ilegally selling poison. He does not contact anyone......He has no sales pitch, he is not standing on a street corner selling this out of his trunk.......people contact him asking for the product.. Clearly you have not had any contact with D because if you did, you wouldn't refer to him the way you do. I could not care less about expiry dates, if it is stored properly it will be good for up to 20 years and the proof are the members who have ctb using his products and it was witnessed and recorded that they did indeed die, and it was a peaceful death . You seem to be trying to convince members that if the expiry is not proven then D is a scammer and its all a big scam. Tell that to those who ctb very successfully using D's product, expired or not.

 

[donewrong]

Actually, I did contact D to ask for verified photos of the expiry mention, next to a note with my email and date, in order to accredit he would not use stock or generic photo. From there, he stopped to communicate !

I'm not making up facts by Exit members who caught him unbothered to lie between the talk of the sale and the product delivered in just a matter of days. Read it again, he even admitted he did deliver something entirely off to his claim, but only after he was put to face contradiction. Call it a low IQ move, if you prefer it over the term dishonest. This illustration was Dolethal (as described by the hints) when he was also selling shitload of it. What's different ?

So to sum it up, we have a seller who sends items without packaging, without labels, more often than not. This same seller has been caught misleading purchases of a few, not being concerned about it, careless to ship bottles not corresponding to his communications.
Up to you to deduct if it inspires a stellar trust and if the likelihood of getting what you ask for is certain.

Maybe these observations are irrelevant to you. However, I know for a fact, subconsciously if I was aware my bottles were outdated, it would rather push me to consume sooner than to wait for the new moon of the next leap year. That's cognitive dissonance, for real, between the theory and the practice
Some get it for peace of mind that can stay intact for a while. Personally, when there's money put on the table, I dislike the idea to gamble at this stage
The reported behaviour just tarnishes that D's reputation is always flawless. It's uncertain, when simply, there is no way to verify it!

 

[Auto Immunity After]

Actually, I did contact D to ask for verified photos of the expiry mention, next to a note with my email and date, in order to accredit he would not use stock or generic photo. From there, he stopped to communicate !

I'm not making up facts by Exit members who caught him unbothered to lie between the talk of the sale and the product delivered in just a matter of days. Read it again, he even admitted he did deliver something entirely off to his claim, but only after he was put to face contradiction. Call it a low IQ move, if you prefer it over the term dishonest. This illustration was Dolethal (as described by the hints) when he was also selling shitload of it. What's different ?

So to sum it up, we have a seller who sends items without packaging, without labels, more often than not. This same seller has been caught misleading purchases of a few, not being concerned about it, careless to ship bottles not corresponding to his communications.
Up to you to deduct if it inspires a stellar trust and if the likelihood of getting what you ask for is certain.

Maybe these observations are irrelevant to you. However, I know for a fact, subconsciously if I was aware my bottles were outdated, it would rather push me to consume sooner than to wait for the new moon of the next leap year. That's cognitive dissonance, for real, between the theory and the practice
Some get it for peace of mind that can stay intact for a while. Personally, when there's money put on the table, I dislike the idea to gamble at this stage
The reported behaviour just tarnishes that D's reputation is always flawless. It's uncertain, when simply, there is no way to verify it!

So in all probablity the guy is a member of a drug cartel in Mexico...........And you want him to answer to your accusations of expiry dates? I totally believe you when you say the dates dont match. I dont care..........its potency will last long enough for any member to do what they want when they want. IF you want dates, go somewhere else.................oh wait........there is nowhere else which is why he does not give a crap about batch dates.

 

[The Lonely]

Actually, I did contact D to ask for verified photos of the expiry mention, next to a note with my email and date, in order to accredit he would not use stock or generic photo. From there, he stopped to communicate !

I'm not making up facts by Exit members who caught him unbothered to lie between the talk of the sale and the product delivered in just a matter of days. Read it again, he even admitted he did deliver something entirely off to his claim, but only after he was put to face contradiction. Call it a low IQ move, if you prefer it over the term dishonest. This illustration was Dolethal (as described by the hints) when he was also selling shitload of it. What's different ?

So to sum it up, we have a seller who sends items without packaging, without labels, more often than not. This same seller has been caught misleading purchases of a few, not being concerned about it, careless to ship bottles not corresponding to his communications.
Up to you to deduct if it inspires a stellar trust and if the likelihood of getting what you ask for is certain.

Maybe these observations are irrelevant to you. However, I know for a fact, subconsciously if I was aware my bottles were outdated, it would rather push me to consume sooner than to wait for the new moon of the next leap year. That's cognitive dissonance, for real, between the theory and the practice
Some get it for peace of mind that can stay intact for a while. Personally, when there's money put on the table, I dislike the idea to gamble at this stage
The reported behaviour just tarnishes that D's reputation is always flawless. It's uncertain, when simply, there is no way to verify it!

We are not in position to Demand since there are few sellers….

yeah… The guy really stops responding when people bother him…

About the Product I didn't get why PPH updated that sellers are sending Pisabental… (Pisabental = a Brand name Pentobarbital) When in fact D already said his product is from another Lab… (Pentobarbital by Aranda).

 

[donewrong]

Similarly, PPH mentions a production to expiry time period of 2 years, not 3+. But inflation is everywhere

 

[Alwaysbadtime]

I don't know...but jezzus I can't imagine making it to xmas.

I think folks gotta just believe....or drive off a cliff.

 

[donewrong]

So in all probablity the guy is a member of a drug cartel in Mexico...........And you want him to answer to your accusations of expiry dates? I totally believe you when you say the dates dont match. I dont care..........its potency will last long enough for any member to do what they want when they want. IF you want dates, go somewhere else.................oh wait........there is nowhere else which is why he does not give a crap about batch dates.

Actually, N powder sources are found on the darknet but the options do not seem explored before contending for competition. Dates are missing but quantities are far generous to compensate

 

[HopelessFight]

@The Lonely where did you get the left photo from? This is exactly the batch number I have.

 

[Jumping_realms]

Actually, N powder sources are found on the darknet but the options do not seem explored before contending for competition. Dates are missing but quantities are far generous to compensate

What if that was an old Chinese powder batch synthesized from 2015? There's really not much difference in the drug trade with these types of issues. Sealed bottles would always be better over synthesized powders in clandestine labs, in my opinion. Without sending it off for testing, you don't truly know the compound the powder even is. In bottles, it would be one hard feat to seal bottles in any remotely close way similar to factory, if you know what you are looking at.

If someone acquired 2 bottles within the past 3 years and it's sealed N, and someone planned on using them before 2030, at 2 full bottles, I'd bet they would STILL result in death with losing very little potency, if it's sealed and bottled N(assuming it was properly stored).

 

[slyna]

Agreed, plenty of what ifs when not taking things for granted at face value.
So, it's a m

Remove pictures please. The police gets info from that shit

 

[HopelessFight]

I have no idea what specific point you're trying to make now, but I would remove these photo's of the actual bottles...

 

[Pmostek]

Nice pictures thank you

 

[Auto Immunity After]

Actually, N powder sources are found on the darknet but the options do not seem explored before contending for competition. Dates are missing but quantities are far generous to compensate

ok so lets look at both sources:

1. "D". He has been a supplier of N for years. Some members have had it tested, it was N. Some members passed away using it. Some members have first hand accounts of how potent it is and then there is the youtube videos you can watch of the final moments of people drinking N and going unconsious in approx 2 min and having a peaceful death. NOW, it appears D is not being truthful about expiry dates, providing incorrect dates or no date on the bottle at all. Below is a tweet from Dr. Philip Nitschke of Peaceful PIll on May 3, 2017

May 2, 2017

Replying to
@philipnitschke
and
@PeacefulPill
Is there an expiry date to these drugs or do they last for years if they remain unopened?



Philip Nitschke
@philipnitschke
·
May 3, 2017

Stored properly, Dolethal (and #euthanasiaNembutal in general) shelf life >20yrs -
@PeacefulPill
Ch 18 'Testing & Storage'

So for anyone who is worried that you either have no expiry date or you don's believe it's correct, we are buying poison in a bottle from a drug trafficker in Mexico. I am sure he sells old stock, new stock, expired stock. The expiry is >20 years if stored properly...... so store it properly. And if you still have it in 20 years and you want to ctb, you may need to reorder but your good for years and the bottles do contain N.

2. There is a site on the darknet I wont say their name but PPeH August 2021 have details and PPeH says the following: From March to September 2020, "X" operated in the White House Market on the dark web. Their WHM record reveals they had between 50 and 60 sales and were involved in 18 disputes (of which all werel lost). They also received 28 positive reviews with an overall customer rating of 92.8% their current market status is 'banned' After the banning 'X" sold 25gm packs of sodium pentobarbital powder from their own dark web site. The reported cost was US$760, Bitcoin or Monero/ XMRwas accepted as payment . As of Novermber 2020, "X" page stated 'product temporarily unavailable.

So everyone can draw their own conclusions if you looking for N.

 

[Koppite]

I've heard of N from A but D I've not heard of D. Is everything I need to know in latest (March 2021) PPEH in 'resources'? Or are there more specific threads that would be of use?
Supplementary question: is D the best bet to buy N these days? I'm a bit out of the loop.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Snake of Eden]

I've heard of N from A but D I've not heard of D. Is everything I need to know in latest (March 2021) PPEH in 'resources'? Or are there more specific threads that would be of use?
Supplementary question: is D the best bet to buy N these days? I'm a bit out of the loop.
Thanks in advance.

D is B inn PPEH