Any other australians?

[g357]

It feels like australias going to absolute shit and is only going to get worse and worse forever as far as finding and affording rentals. Im terrified ill end up homeless one day on the streets, im terrified of not being safe one day. I can only imagine what would happen to me on the streets as a woman

My parents are still alive, I have friends, I have other family (although we are not close at all) for now i wont end up on the streets

What happens one day when I have no one?

Its all i can think about and ive been in crisis for a month about it. Its where the depression and suicidal ideation has started this fear. And I think its here to stay, I was quite mentally healthy before full of hope. Its all gone

I spend hours at a time, 5+ maybe googling reddit threads about australias future. About paracetemol overdoses. Trying to find a method that i can use when the time comes, trying to find peace knowing i can just choose to stick around, live my life, struggle through it and then when the time comes that I have no backup i can opt out rather than suffer on the streets. Because there is basically no resources for getting people off the streets and safe, no help. More and more homeless by the day

And there will be even less help in the future

Then one day when im old and my parents are gone (I cant kill myself and do that to them, I cant. It would destroy them especially my mother) I can do it. I can opt out rather than suffer

I can't fucking find anything. Apparently its impossible to die

Ive never dealt with suicidal ideation like this. Its all consuming

I realize this post is all over the place I just cant find the energy to fix it. I wish I was never born so fucking badly

 

[infinitelove]

Sydney here. Felt every word. Us aussies need a chat group or something for resources to share. Without getting the vendor banned by lurkers here stalking and targeting links shared. Happened to often in the past. Something will come up. Be patient and be meticulous with the information and plan of exit. Big hugs, many of us are in the same realisation esp living in Australia although most of the world is in shit. You will find a resource. Be patient and hold steady.

 

[g357]

Sydney here. Felt every word. Us aussies need a chat group or something for resources to share. Without getting the vendor banned by lurkers here stalking and targeting links shared. Happened to often in the past. Something will come up. Be patient and be meticulous with the information and plan of exit. Big hugs, many of us are in the same realisation esp living in Australia although most of the world is in shit. You will find a resource. Be patient and hold steady.

Im sorry that youre feeling it too

I agree, an Aussie chat would be great

When you say vendor do you mean a way to buy SN?

 

[clarity]

I'm from Australia. It's sad to see other Aussies on here, although somewhat comforting for me to know that I am not alone.

I had to move locations because of the rental crisis. I'm not currently working and can barely afford to rent in Sydney.

 

[infinitelove]

Sydney here. Felt every word. Us aussies need a chat group or something for resources to share. Without getting the vendor banned by lurkers here stalking and targeting links shared. Happened to often in the past. Something will come up. Be patient and be meticulous with the information and plan of exit. Big hugs, many of us are in the same realisation esp living in Australia although most of the world is in shit. You will find a resource. Be patient and

Im sorry that youre feeling it too

I agree, an Aussie chat would be great

When you say vendor do you mean a way to buy SN?

Yeah for SN, private sellers are usually shared around in dms only now just so they don't get harassed or abused by people against self exit. Alibaba was the last public place to order back around covid and now they've stopped selling there too.

 

[clarity]

From Brisbane here. I'm glad but also sad at the same time to see other Aussies on here. Times are definitely tough, I understand where you're coming from. Cost of living is becoming ridiculous and all these empty promises from government. The struggle to find methods which are actually peaceful and accessible is real too. I recently posted on here about finding an SN vendor who ships here but is international. Very difficult to find SN vendors from here if that is a method you are also interested in...

I find it so depressing that the government goes all these lengths to restrict all these methods from us and force suicidal people, lots with unbearable pain and no other choice with little to no treatment options, to go through more violent means which have higher likelihoods of permanent injury if you survive or of traumatising someone else. It's messed up and I'm sorry you are feeling this way too.

I agree that it's hard to find methods which are peaceful and accessible. It took me a long time to find a SN vendor myself.

I've given up on the hope of treatment. I've tried SSRIs, SNRIs, atypical antidepressants, antipsychotics etc. They all initially help lift your mood but your body gets used to it. I had hope with ketamine but cannot afford the psychiatric consultations. I started on a new antidepressant 3 months ago, currently at the maximum dose but it's still having no effect on me. I see my psychologist fortnightly and that's all I can afford as I ran out of the 10 Medicare rebated sessions a year ages ago.

 

[EmptyBottle]

Adelaide user here
I think I'd have to find some far rural place to get a reasonable price, and probably a fixer-upper or plot of land.
Unless a small apartment could be an option, tho idk how long that option will work.
Not a fan of the unbalanced negative-gearing or whatever-it-is that creates an incentive to excessively invest in property.

 

[itsgone2]

So sad to see this thread. American here. Australia always seemed a paradise. What happened? Although the us probably seemed a paradise before, and now we're a ruined mess.

 

[Shiitake]

It feels like australias going to absolute shit and is only going to get worse and worse forever as far as finding and affording rentals. Im terrified ill end up homeless one day on the streets, im terrified of not being safe one day. I can only imagine what would happen to me on the streets as a woman

My parents are still alive, I have friends, I have other family (although we are not close at all) for now i wont end up on the streets

What happens one day when I have no one?

Its all i can think about and ive been in crisis for a month about it. Its where the depression and suicidal ideation has started this fear. And I think its here to stay, I was quite mentally healthy before full of hope. Its all gone

I spend hours at a time, 5+ maybe googling reddit threads about australias future. About paracetemol overdoses. Trying to find a method that i can use when the time comes, trying to find peace knowing i can just choose to stick around, live my life, struggle through it and then when the time comes that I have no backup i can opt out rather than suffer on the streets. Because there is basically no resources for getting people off the streets and safe, no help. More and more homeless by the day

And there will be even less help in the future

Then one day when im old and my parents are gone (I cant kill myself and do that to them, I cant. It would destroy them especially my mother) I can do it. I can opt out rather than suffer

I can't fucking find anything. Apparently its impossible to die

Ive never dealt with suicidal ideation like this. Its all consuming

I realize this post is all over the place I just cant find the energy to fix it. I wish I was never born so fucking badly

talked to some caravan park australian and that place sounds miserable if ur poor, i think it may transform into italy, just be poor and happy and surf lol

 

[EmptyBottle]

So sad to see this thread. American here. Australia always seemed a paradise. What happened? Although the us probably seemed a paradise before, and now we're a ruined mess.

It's not yet dystopia (other stuff about Australia is reasonable for now), tho not sure why the world is getting messier.

 

[Natbee]

Brisbane here. Didn't think much other Australians were on here. I have not been on for a while. The world is getting worse and financial crisis is putting me in the ground I feel

I agree that it's hard to find methods which are peaceful and accessible. It took me a long time to find a SN vendor myself.

I've given up on the hope of treatment. I've tried SSRIs, SNRIs, atypical antidepressants, antipsychotics etc. They all initially help lift your mood but your body gets used to it. I had hope with ketamine but cannot afford the psychiatric consultations. I started on a new antidepressant 3 months ago, currently at the maximum dose but it's still having no effect on me. I see my psychologist fortnightly and that's all I can afford as I ran out of the 10 Medicare rebated sessions a year ages ago.

I am from Brisbane too

 

[peacecomingsoon]

Brisbane here. Didn't think much other Australians were on here. I have not been on for a while. The world is getting worse and financial crisis is putting me in the ground I feel

I am from Brisbane too

Same here. I haven't thought it seemed like there were too many other Aussies on here either, at least during the time I've been a member... Wish there was also a place for us Aussies to discuss things. Tricky to find places to discuss suicide-related topics uncensored and freely, especially in Australia.

 

[Bowerbird]

 

[nitrogenous]

Brisbane here. Didn't think much other Australians were on here. I have not been on for a while. The world is getting worse and financial crisis is putting me in the ground I feel

I am from Brisbane too

Hey, I'm from Brisbane too and I'm also struggling so much financially, my expenses are way more than my income... I've been thinking about ending it all since early last year but it's been so hard trying to find the vendors/resources and those who knows tend to gate keep them :(

 

[Natbee]

Hey, I'm from Brisbane too and I'm also struggling so much financially, my expenses are way more than my income... I've been thinking about ending it all since early last year but it's been so hard trying to find the vendors/resources and those who knows tend to gate keep them :(

Hey

I'm so sorry that you're in the same boat, it's a horrible place to be.

I've been dealing with Demons for so long I am honestly just tired and ready to go but something always happens and stops me. Are you South Brisbane or north? I'm on the north side.

 

[nitrogenous]

Hey

I'm so sorry that you're in the same boat, it's a horrible place to be.

I've been dealing with Demons for so long I am honestly just tired and ready to go but something always happens and stops me. Are you South Brisbane or north? I'm on the north side.

My area technically counts as the north side as well, what a coincidence!

 

[Spite]

Yeah, I don't like living here. Very geographically isolated and lonely with few prospects available. It's also absurdly hot here in summer and I hate it. I'd give almost anything to live somewhere else, like Canada or northern Europe where it's colder.

 

[Natbee]

My area technically counts as the north side as well, what a coincidence!

Small world. How are you going

Yeah, I don't like living here. Very geographically isolated and lonely with few prospects available. It's also absurdly hot here in summer and I hate it. I'd give almost anything to live somewhere else, like Canada or northern Europe where it's colder.

Yes Canada is a dream. I am south African and wow I hate this heat. The summers are the worst here agreed

 

[nitrogenous]

Small world. How are you going

Yes Canada is a dream. I am south African and wow I hate this heat. The summers are the worst here agreed

Not so well, but unfortunately the acute care team is unto me as my friend called them and told them about my plans etc... so it's gonna be increasingly hard for me to go when I feel I'm ready. I'm sorry you're feeling that way, I've also been having those moments where something just stopped me, I mean not all the times as I've had multiple attempts, but a lot of different people lately have just been calling 000 (the ambulance) without telling me and therefore I've been stuck in the emergency so many times only for them to discharge me after multiple hours of waiting. Honestly, they're making it worse as then I felt that I had no freedom or independence (they would put me under the mental health act or the EEA multiple times). It's very devastating. How are you going lately?

 

[peacecomingsoon]

Not so well, but unfortunately the acute care team is unto me as my friend called them and told them about my plans etc... so it's gonna be increasingly hard for me to go when I feel I'm ready. I'm sorry you're feeling that way, I've also been having those moments where something just stopped me, I mean not all the times as I've had multiple attempts, but a lot of different people lately have just been calling 000 (the ambulance) without telling me and therefore I've been stuck in the emergency so many times only for them to discharge me after multiple hours of waiting. Honestly, they're making it worse as then I felt that I had no freedom or independence (they would put me under the mental health act or the EEA multiple times). It's very devastating. How are you going lately?

I really feel for you. I can't put into words how frustrating it feels when put under EEA and waiting in the ED for hours, only to be discharged. It's so stressful. Can't imagine how you're feeling and totally understand the lack of independence and freedom too, as I've been in similar situations myself (also in Brissy). It really does feel horrible when being so closely monitored by the acute care teams and others around you, like you're not even a person anymore, just a risk to be contained. I'm really sorry you're going through all this and hope you can find more freedom and peace soon.

 

[itsgone2]

It feels like australias going to absolute shit and is only going to get worse and worse forever as far as finding and affording rentals. Im terrified ill end up homeless one day on the streets, im terrified of not being safe one day. I can only imagine what would happen to me on the streets as a woman

What happened to Australia? I live in the USA and even here Australia seemed like paradise. Now it seems I only hear negative things.

 

[Natbee]

Hey, I'm from Brisbane too and I'm also struggling so much financially, my expenses are way more than my income... I've been thinking about ending it all since early last year but it's been so hard trying to find the vendors/resources and those who knows tend to gate keep them :(

Yes agree it's hard finding people to help get the resources here

What happened to Australia? I live in the USA and even here Australia seemed like paradise. Now it seems I only hear negative things.

It is a paradise country but our mental health system here is so broken

Not so well, but unfortunately the acute care team is unto me as my friend called them and told them about my plans etc... so it's gonna be increasingly hard for me to go when I feel I'm ready. I'm sorry you're feeling that way, I've also been having those moments where something just stopped me, I mean not all the times as I've had multiple attempts, but a lot of different people lately have just been calling 000 (the ambulance) without telling me and therefore I've been stuck in the emergency so many times only for them to discharge me after multiple hours of waiting. Honestly, they're making it worse as then I felt that I had no freedom or independence (they would put me under the mental health act or the EEA multiple times). It's very devastating. How are you going lately?

So sorry you have not been well, I have been good for a while but recently with our financial stress it's made me more depressed and more stressed. I have also been stuck way to many times in the emergency department and it makes it worse, the nurses know me at my local hospital and it's embarrassed ended up just to be sent home

 

[nitrogenous]

I really feel for you. I can't put into words how frustrating it feels when put under EEA and waiting in the ED for hours, only to be discharged. It's so stressful. Can't imagine how you're feeling and totally understand the lack of independence and freedom too, as I've been in similar situations myself (also in Brissy). It really does feel horrible when being so closely monitored by the acute care teams and others around you, like you're not even a person anymore, just a risk to be contained. I'm really sorry you're going through all this and hope you can find more freedom and peace soon.

Yeah, I'm not kidding it's gotten to a point where if I don't pick up the ACT's call they're calling 000 immediately and I even have to go to them in person tomorrow :/ They really make it seem as if they're going to change my whole personality and view of life tomorrow, but I guess I'll see. Yeah, being put under the EEA and MHA is just the worst. One time Lifeline called 000 on me telling the paramedics I've overdosed when I hadn't, and obviously they put me under the EEA to bring me to the hospital and get my blood tested. Although even after they cleared my blood test, they still insisted on me having another blood test. It's just crazy. I'm sorry you've gone through similar settings. I just think that the act of people calling 000 and forcing me to go to the ED (I especially really hate the psychiatric ED, it's basically jail as I wasn't even allowed to have my phone or anything with me!) just to wait for hours with no independence and freedom doesn't make me any better, they really need a better system if they want things to be better.

Yes agree it's hard finding people to help get the resources here

It is a paradise country but our mental health system here is so broken

So sorry you have not been well, I have been good for a while but recently with our financial stress it's made me more depressed and more stressed. I have also been stuck way to many times in the emergency department and it makes it worse, the nurses know me at my local hospital and it's embarrassed ended up just to be sent home

I do think financial is such a big deal in terms of how it impacts people's mental health. My previous attempts have all been related to financials and it has always been so devastating knowing that there's not much we can do to fix the issue overnight and sending us to the ER also doesn't magically make us more financially stable. I'm sorry the fact that the nurses even know you know, it must be such a horrible feeling. Some of the MH people in the hospital have definitely known me, but fortunately normal ED nurse wise have been quite diverse for me and so I had less judgements as a "frequent flyer" (I really hate this term, but it's commonly used).

 

[crazyotterkelly]

me too ^_^ australia is slowly becoming a hellhole and i honestly can't just wait around until im homeless again. last time at least i had my car and two jobs. i will be on the streets next time

 

[MyLastTour]

Also Australian. I feel lucky with where my situation's at right now, but with where the world's headed I'm pretty worried. Could be worse I guess, still want to die here and wish I could have been elsewhere. I'm resigned to the fact I will never own property

 

[wine is fine but]

What happened to Australia? I live in the USA and even here Australia seemed like paradise. Now it seems I only hear negative things.

we have been totally leftarded, just like the rest of the western world

we have always been around 5 years behind the states when it comes to trends with crime etc., so at the very least we will be where the states were 5 years ago

victoria is cactus, due to our communist regime running it. the state is worse than just broke. we have been sold out to china with illegal practices by signing away the state to china for loans. we have had a federal referendum where our fearless leader tried to force horrible new laws onto us. it was voted down, yet it will still be coming into victoria, by our communist dictator even though the country and victoria both clearly voted no

our federal parliament has banned the national flag in parliament, yet hamas scarves are fine and encouraged - but then our fearless leader is a supporter of terrorism so why would he not enforce new laws to help them. our new hate speech laws mean that the cops will hunt you down for calling a man effeminate, or not liking the most recent bondi muslim vs jews massacre, but anything antisemitic is fine. we have crime from the somalian community (obviously just some bad apples, not many of them) with home invasions, machete attacks, murders etc. and within hours, they are let back on the streets. the wokeness is absolutely disgusting, but i guess when you appeal to the lowest common denominator you will never starve

 

[seeking_the_void]

Can i suggest a group chat with Australians, as we all face the same issues with getting stuff. Im not sure if its against the rules to form a chat group but i would really like to talk in a group with anyone from Aust.

Same here. I haven't thought it seemed like there were too many other Aussies on here either, at least during the time I've been a member... Wish there was also a place for us Aussies to discuss things. Tricky to find places to discuss suicide-related topics uncensored and freely, especially in Australia.

PM?

 

[wasphyso]

Adelaide user here
I think I'd have to find some far rural place to get a reasonable price, and probably a fixer-upper or plot of land.
Unless a small apartment could be an option, tho idk how long that option will work.
Not a fan of the unbalanced negative-gearing or whatever-it-is that creates an incentive to excessively invest in property.

Hello Friend, never thought I'll see anyone from Adelaide here

What happened to Australia? I live in the USA and even here Australia seemed like paradise. Now it seems I only hear negative things.

Australia Isn't the worst place to live, but it's just super expensive.

 

[RiderNo.4]

Can i suggest a group chat with Australians, as we all face the same issues with getting stuff. Im not sure if its against the rules to form a chat group but i would really like to talk in a group with anyone from Aust.

Sounds good, id be down

 

[seeking_the_void]

It is against the rules to talk about starting a group in a chat app?