Another News article on SaSu

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

I wonder how her family relations were and how it influenced her to do the deed? Her sister banking on her death to write a book is not a good sign...

 

[ceilng_tile]

The perspective in the article is so self-centered. All about what the writer went through and nothing about her sister's thoughts or feelings. Unless Aimee logged off before she ctb-ed or just never posted, her sister would have had access to those posts that may have described her reasons for ctb.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

If my 21-year-old sister met a guy here, stayed with him in a hotel for 11 days, and ended up dead while he lived, I'd be upset too. How old was the guy? What were the messages between them like? Seems sketchy.

 

[22yearsbroken]

I find it ... well i dont really have the words for how i feel ive only scanned through the story as i knew it would wi d me up and it kinda did.. so a person who has a right to make her own choices in life,be who she wants, do what she want, live how she want... yes she passed .. but has this woman her so called sister.. only discussing " the un- mentioned site " .. why has not a single jounalist asked 1 simple question..

" WHY DID SHE SEEK OUT THE UNMENTIONAL SITE IN THE FIRST PLACE "

to me this should be the real focus of what has .ade tbis qomen make her choice .. you dont stumble on here looking for some cat videos kr the new tik tom craze ideas... well maybe you do but surely you would realise tbjs is not that place..
So why did she come amd why did she stay...

And then personally the the worst part of tbis story is the fact that her loving sister ... went oh i can make few quid out my sisters death....now thats true sisterly love right there...

I wonder if there back gardwn was to be dug up .. wbat would they find whats on those tapes im the attic..

I think the family she be looked at..
Especially the exploiting ,capitalizing, and profiteering fucking cunt of a sister...

 

[cemeteryismyhome]

The "news" is just sensational hype, lies, and distortions. Largely responsible for so many people running around like crazy over nonsense. Bunch of baloney.

 

[Pale_Rider]

SaSu is horrible, but they didn't mind using it to promote a new book. Thereby giving SaSu more exposure also.

 

[quietwoods]

If my 21-year-old sister met a guy here, stayed with him in a hotel for 11 days, and ended up dead while he lived, I'd be upset too. How old was the guy? What were the messages between them like? Seems sketchy.

-> Sister writes book to profit off death of younger sister, portrayed as hero.
-> Guy flies across a freaking ocean on his own dime so younger sister doesn't spend her final days alone. Portrayed as villain.

I love modern society.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

BOTTOM TEXT

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Sister writes book to profit off death of younger sister, portrayed as hero.

I didn't say anything about this person being a hero. I don't know why she wrote a book. Healing? Profit?

-> Guy flies across a freaking ocean on his own dime so younger sister doesn't spend her final days alone. Portrayed as villain.

Yes, considering the other documented predators that have emerged from the partners thread over the years, this could absolutely be sketchy.


All I'm saying is I'm not surprised these people have negative feelings about the situation.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

I didn't say anything about this person being a hero. I don't know why she wrote a book. Healing? Profit?


Yes, considering the other documented predators that have emerged from the partners thread over the years, this could absolutely be sketchy.


All I'm saying is I'm not surprised these people have negative feelings about the situation.

It's okay to have negative feelings, but it's not okay to project them into an entire community. Even if they had the best of intentions, this is even more pressure at even more suicidal people. Why don't they blame it on capitalism instead? Maybe the rising right wing? No, it's that one website!

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Why don't they blame it on capitalism instead? Maybe the rising right wing? No, it's that one website!

The sister is blaming it on this website because this is where her sister met that man and where she found her suicide method. She's a "normie" who has probably never considered suicide, and the events around her sister's death are kind of suspicious.. Of course she's blaming this place.

 

[pacific]

It's ridiculous how society won't just leave us alone to die in peace....

 

[Douggy82]

The goal is bigger than controlling SS. They want to control the entire internet. SS is just a way to get their foot in the door. They want to establish their authority to control websites. Once they establish that, they can shut down ANYONE!

Today is a suicide forum. Tomorrow is a webiste that promotes "racism". The day after that it's any news site that contradicts the accepted narrative.

They want TOTAL CONTROL and SS is their guinea pig. Suicide has nothing to do with their real intentions. It's all about POWER and CONTROL!

 

[Apathy79]

If my 21-year-old sister met a guy here, stayed with him in a hotel for 11 days, and ended up dead while he lived, I'd be upset too. How old was the guy? What were the messages between them like? Seems sketchy.

Don't get duped by it. Both the sister and the writer know every detail as outlined here. Everything written in the article is a lie designed to fool the gullible into exactly that manner of thinking

Another example of BBC lying about users.

Many will know about the recent article released by the dynamic duo at the BBC. They focused their energy on the partner thread and covered descriptions of how they believed the thread had caused harm. But that wasn't the primary topic of this thread. Within that article, they created a...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[GhostInTheMachine]

Why is that that people have autonomy up until the moment they CTB, and then suddenly there was no way they came to that conclusion themselves? "I knew she had poor mental health, but of course other people made her do it".

 

[starboy2k]

its sad that this family refuses to look inwards and instead blame external factors like this forum. we fear death so much but moments like this is when you have to fear the living even more.

 

[brokencookie]

My sister was found dead. Then I discovered her search history – and the online world that had gripped her

Adele Zeynep Walton’s sibling Aimee was a talented artist who loved music. It was only after her death that Walton realised Aimee had been lured into a dangerous community – and that others may also be victims of it

www.theguardian.com

It's so fucking funny, like they accept death as not only natural but also essential to existence, yet in situations of suicide, death is suddenly bad now?

Girl make up your fucking mind!

 

[betternever2havbeen]

If my 21-year-old sister met a guy here, stayed with him in a hotel for 11 days, and ended up dead while he lived, I'd be upset too. How old was the guy? What were the messages between them like? Seems sketchy.

Yeah honestly as a woman I would only ever have partnered up with another woman when I briefly considered a partner (I'm not now) as it's just far too risky otherwise. For some reason men seem to have a strong preference for female partners? Could be innocent but yeah could be dangerous. Why would he fly all that way and spend all that time? I don't think most of us here would ever say that was a good idea and if anyone had posted they were going to do similar with a random guy we all would've warned her against it. So I wish they wouldn't blame the site itself or 99% of users. Predators have operated on every major social media platform so it's not like it only happens here (not that it should happen at all). What happened has got to be pretty rare, most users are not partnering up like that.

Once again there's no proof of anything, no screenshots where all this supposed "grooming" is taking place. Show some evidence for once and then I might actually believe it happened. Seems like they have legit cause to be concerned about this guy, but don't tar the whole site with the same brush and act like it's only purpose is to "groom" people.

 

[brokencookie]

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

BOTTOM TEXT

"Have you seen what it's like out here, Murray?"

 

[betternever2havbeen]

It's so fucking funny, like they accept death as not only natural but also essential to existence, yet in situations of suicide, death is suddenly bad now?

Girl make up your fucking mind!

The normies have always had a weird perspective on natural death that I don't really understand. I think death is always tragic, even if it's a 100 year old I think it's sad and I'd be upset. I really struggle to relate to people who don't get emotional about all the suffering in the world and who shrug their shoulders about death as long as it's natural. I understand why they think suicide is worse of course, but to just be fine and dandy about natural death? No I hate death, it's one of the reasons I wish I was never born in the first place.

Then there's lots of us also here putting it off so we don't cause our parents grief, and yet parents never think/care about their child having to lose them. I lost two family members at home because they refused to go back into hospital after bad experiences and it was really fucking traumatic. In fact it had a huge hand in making me suicidal. So no natural death is not good either. I never want to be put in that position ever again.

 

[brokencookie]

The normies have always had a weird perspective on natural death that I don't really understand. I think death is always tragic, even if it's a 100 year old I think it's sad and I'd be upset. I really struggle to relate to people who don't get emotional about all the suffering in the world and who shrug their shoulders about death as long as it's natural. I understand why they think suicide is worse of course, but to just be fine and dandy about natural death? No I hate death, it's one of the reasons I wish I was never born in the first place.

Then there's lots of us also here putting it off so we don't cause our parents grief, and yet parents never think/care about their child having to lose them. I lost two family members at home because they refused to go back into hospital after bad experiences and it was really fucking traumatic. In fact it had a huge hand in making me suicidal. So no natural death is not good either. I never want to be put in that position ever again.

I'm absolutely with you
I always thought I was crazy, but it's so good to see like-minded ppl here!
Love this forum

 

[LostLily]

The sister was already suicidal coming here. And I have yet to see anyone one encourage someone to CTB. We just respect people decision and autonomy here.

They blame us, but they don't talk about what they did to help her family member and then she start shilling her book.

 

[vanillamilkshakes]

While I feel sympathetic to Adele Zeynep Walton, and I'm sure she experienced a great deal of grief after her sister's passing. That does not mean she should get to spread blatant lies about SS.

Wanting to retrace her sister's last steps, Walton visited the forum herself. "A lot of the posts are basically saying, 'Your family don't care about you', 'You should do it'. 'When are you going to catch the bus?' is a phrase they use."

In the 9 months I've been using this site, and the 100s of hours I've spent pouring through threads, and engaging with the community, not ONCE have I seen posts/messages that Adele describes, and I'm positive if any one said anything along those lines, they would be banned immediately. This is bad journalism.. It just seems like this is being used to promote her book more than anything else.

 

[starboy2k]

It's so fucking funny, like they accept death as not only natural but also essential to existence, yet in situations of suicide, death is suddenly bad now?

Girl make up your fucking mind!

 

[gothbird]

If she went on her own terms, then I don't feel sadness. It's always tragic when someone dies, yes, but when that decision is deliberate and thought through, I see peace in it. People live with unbearable mental and physical pain, and it's not for the rest of us to decide what they should endure or for how long. The idea that someone must stay either for a family member, for a system, for the sake of not upsetting others, is exactly where the real selfishness lies. Grief is normal. But grief doesn't justify control.
I've never seen anyone on these forums push someone to die. No one says "go do it" or "your family doesn't care". Never. What people do here is offer clarity. The fearmongering is absurd, and it's dangerous. It drives people to act impulsively, alone, with methods that fail violently and leave them with more suffering. I've seen that firsthand. In the older days, early Reddit's SS and the older boards on other sites, people died without knowledge and it was fucking chaos. I lost people that way.
If someone wants to blame a forum like this for a person's death, they're missing the point entirely. This space didn't create the pain. If my father ever reads this, I hope he understands that. The support I found here didn't lead me to death. It helped me survive longer than I would have otherwise, and when I leave, it'll be on my own terms, not because someone "trained" me. If he wants to be angry, he should aim that at the systems that fail people so consistently.

If Aimee's out there, then may she be scattered like stardust across the void. No more orbit, no more gravity pulling her back to pain. Just rest.

 

[vileforgot]

They somehow managed to make incels and Trump to blame, incredible.

lmfao, yes i'm always surprised how they link this forum to incels? my guess is that incels are just the worst group of people they can think of and they throw it around to make whatever they want look worse. it's really weird and makes me cringe

 

[J&L383]

My sister was found dead. Then I discovered her search history – and the online world that had gripped her

Adele Zeynep Walton’s sibling Aimee was a talented artist who loved music. It was only after her death that Walton realised Aimee had been lured into a dangerous community – and that others may also be victims of it

www.theguardian.com

"complex network of online connections."

That clears up that part. And the writers of the article knew about it. So the whole thing is just deliberate lies to sell an article (and now a book). Case solved.

 

[TheLastGreySky]

My sister was found dead. Then I discovered her search history – and the online world that had gripped her

Adele Zeynep Walton’s sibling Aimee was a talented artist who loved music. It was only after her death that Walton realised Aimee had been lured into a dangerous community – and that others may also be victims of it

www.theguardian.com

"Lured into a dangerous community"? Uhh, yeah it's people who write articles like this that actually cause us to kill ourselves.

You put faith in therapy and then make it where anyone who has suicidal thoughts and confesses them to their therapist legally have to be locked up for their own "safety" and yet the idea of safety is a 72-hour hold. Your system is broken and you're pointing the finger at the people who are well aware that if they are to survive... They have to operate outside it.

Maybe the surviving sister wasn't someone the unalived sister could go to... I mean she ran to the media for attention just saying.

 

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I initially thought the article was saying they know we're annoyed about the suicide hotlines they just listed. Oh well, maybe one day

 

[bankai]

lured? I'd better pick up these bread crumbs ASAP.